Seymour Flops
Diamond Member
First here was Pete Buttegeig saying Democrats need to stop being"assholes,"
"Is there anything that is considered right now a progressive idea and that the Democrats are associated with that you wish the Democrats would ditch?" Ryan Lizza asked Buttigieg in an interview for Esquire.
"I think a lot of it is tonal. You just gotta make sure that even as we demonstrate we can fight those in power right now—stand up to them and reject everything that's wrong and correct everything that's false—but we don't have to be assholes about it," Buttigieg said.
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Now Adam Schiff, of all people, makes the same observation.
"And what was most memorable about the experience for me is I went to this Target in South San Francisco, 10 o'clock at night, and I'm getting the toiletries I'm gonna need for my next two days in the city," Schiff said. "First of all, I had to get the clerk, which is hard to find, to unlock the shampoo or the whatever. So that's one thing."
Schiff said he had his luggage stolen from his car during a visit to San Francisco. (iStock)
"And then I get to the cashier. The cashier asked me if I want one of those Target bags with a little bullseye on it. And I said, ‘Yes, that Target bag is gonna be my luggage for the next two days," Schiff continued. "And she asked me what happened, and I told her, and she basically said in not so many words, ’Yeah, Democrats are a---h---s.' And I thought, you know, if the cashier in South San Francisco at 10 o'clock at night believes that Democrats are a---h---s because the shampoo was locked up and my stuff got stolen out of the trunk, we've got a major problem that we have to address."
I would have to say that the root of the Democratic Parties concerns about this are twofold:
1) Nearly exclusive concentration on Donald Trump in public discourse. The public needs to hear what the Democrats will do to make America better, if not necessarily great again, and not just that it will be as much unlike Donald Trump as possible. Defining itself as the "not Trump" party has not won any converts, nor strengthened the voter turnout of its base,
2) Personally attacking Trump supporters, as part of this focus on Trump. It is pretty common for ordinary Democratic voters to attack Republican voters personally. Most Republicans will not talk about politics at work with friends and colleagues because of how strident Democrats are in not only insisting on being right, but on making disagreement personal.
But it is more recent, kicked off by HRC's "basket of deplorables" comment, that the leadership of the Democratic Party, and its elected officials, have been attacking not only Trump, but Trump voters. A voter insulted by a politician is unlikely to ever vote for him or her, even for a second term after a brilliant first term.
In those two statements, Pete B. and Adam S. seem to acknowledge that. Pete has ambitions beyond even his performance as Sec Transportation, and Adam Schiff must see the possibility of a primary challenge in 2026.
My question is will the whole party be willing to make this change, or at least to reflect on its strategy, as these two leaders suggest, or will it be only a few isolated and self-serving cases?
"Is there anything that is considered right now a progressive idea and that the Democrats are associated with that you wish the Democrats would ditch?" Ryan Lizza asked Buttigieg in an interview for Esquire.
"I think a lot of it is tonal. You just gotta make sure that even as we demonstrate we can fight those in power right now—stand up to them and reject everything that's wrong and correct everything that's false—but we don't have to be assholes about it," Buttigieg said.
Buttigieg: Democrats Need to Stop Being 'A**holes' About Challenging Republicans
Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg said members of his party have to stop being "a—holes" when challenging Republicans.
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Now Adam Schiff, of all people, makes the same observation.
"And what was most memorable about the experience for me is I went to this Target in South San Francisco, 10 o'clock at night, and I'm getting the toiletries I'm gonna need for my next two days in the city," Schiff said. "First of all, I had to get the clerk, which is hard to find, to unlock the shampoo or the whatever. So that's one thing."
Schiff said he had his luggage stolen from his car during a visit to San Francisco. (iStock)
"And then I get to the cashier. The cashier asked me if I want one of those Target bags with a little bullseye on it. And I said, ‘Yes, that Target bag is gonna be my luggage for the next two days," Schiff continued. "And she asked me what happened, and I told her, and she basically said in not so many words, ’Yeah, Democrats are a---h---s.' And I thought, you know, if the cashier in South San Francisco at 10 o'clock at night believes that Democrats are a---h---s because the shampoo was locked up and my stuff got stolen out of the trunk, we've got a major problem that we have to address."
I would have to say that the root of the Democratic Parties concerns about this are twofold:
1) Nearly exclusive concentration on Donald Trump in public discourse. The public needs to hear what the Democrats will do to make America better, if not necessarily great again, and not just that it will be as much unlike Donald Trump as possible. Defining itself as the "not Trump" party has not won any converts, nor strengthened the voter turnout of its base,
2) Personally attacking Trump supporters, as part of this focus on Trump. It is pretty common for ordinary Democratic voters to attack Republican voters personally. Most Republicans will not talk about politics at work with friends and colleagues because of how strident Democrats are in not only insisting on being right, but on making disagreement personal.
But it is more recent, kicked off by HRC's "basket of deplorables" comment, that the leadership of the Democratic Party, and its elected officials, have been attacking not only Trump, but Trump voters. A voter insulted by a politician is unlikely to ever vote for him or her, even for a second term after a brilliant first term.
In those two statements, Pete B. and Adam S. seem to acknowledge that. Pete has ambitions beyond even his performance as Sec Transportation, and Adam Schiff must see the possibility of a primary challenge in 2026.
My question is will the whole party be willing to make this change, or at least to reflect on its strategy, as these two leaders suggest, or will it be only a few isolated and self-serving cases?
