Antarctic sea ice 2016: Historic lows

Ok serious question. Some of the people here say that what climate scientists report is bullshit because they get money from the government to fund their research. Well since there is no money to be made doing your own research and footing the bill yourself... how else do you expect the researchers to fund their studies in order to find out what is going on and why?




Take a look at the ones pushing the AGW fraud, for fraud it is. They ALL are making millions for pushing it. The politicians want it because it gives them power. Thus you have a nexus of poor scientists, funded by power hungry politicians. Just like there is a military/industrial complex, there is likewise a political/climatology complex.
 
Antarctic sea ice 2016: Historic lows
Mark BrandonNovember 24, 2016Leave a reply
Antarctic sea ice 2016: Historic lows
The seasonal cycle of sea ice extent in Antarctica has been fairly stable over the length of the satellite record. There is a slow growth of sea ice from a minimum of ~3x106 km2 in February to a maximum of ~19 x106km2 in September in February before a relatively rapid fall in the Antarctic spring.

But this year something different is going on.

Below is Tamino's image for the Southern Hemisphere, the red line is 2016 up to 16 November 2016.

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The annotated seasonal extent of sea ice in the Southern hemisphere. From Tamino's post Sea Ice, North and South.
From January up to September the sea ice extent follows all previous data.

But what happened in September?


After that date it dipped low, to reach historic lows by the end of October.

Well, there goes Antarctica argument the loserterians had.
That article is horse shit...

Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years
 
Mr. Westwall claims to be a Phd Geologist. I have met many Phd Geologists, none that make the claims that he does. Nor any that show the inability to read scientific papers, as he has demonstrated on this board many times.







That's hilarious. It is you who have been shown to be the idiot incapable of reading, much less understanding a scientific paper. You have also lied about your age, which I busted, and you supposedly work for a steel company as a floor cleaner (though you claim to be a sort of machinist), what's funny is the only steel company in your are is EVRAZ, a notoriously fucked up company that has a long history of polluting their areas. And you are "proud" to work for them.

What does that say about you silly boy....
 
Ok serious question. Some of the people here say that what climate scientists report is bullshit because they get money from the government to fund their research. Well since there is no money to be made doing your own research and footing the bill yourself... how else do you expect the researchers to fund their studies in order to find out what is going on and why?




Take a look at the ones pushing the AGW fraud, for fraud it is. They ALL are making millions for pushing it. The politicians want it because it gives them power. Thus you have a nexus of poor scientists, funded by power hungry politicians. Just like there is a military/industrial complex, there is likewise a political/climatology complex.

That doesn't answer my question. A scientist can't make money funding their own research. What can they hope for to make money back? A Nobel Prize? What's the odds of doing that? So how else do the scientist fund their research without government help? So how can these scientist be taken seriously by the deniers if all the deniers dismiss research that is obtained from government funded research? Sounds like this is some kind of...circle jerk thing where scientist can't win in the eyes of deniers.
 
Mr. Westwall claims that all the scientists in the American Geophysical Union, and the Geological Society of America are dishonest frauds. Kind of like the people that always are claiming that they can show how Einstein was wrong. And, if you dispute them, you are a dirty commie. LOL

Since he first started on this board, he has predicted every year that we are going to see a cooling period very soon. Soon just keeps getting further away.
 
Mr. Westwall claims that all the scientists in the American Geophysical Union, and the Geological Society of America are dishonest frauds. Kind of like the people that always are claiming that they can show how Einstein was wrong. And, if you dispute them, you are a dirty commie. LOL

Since he first started on this board, he has predicted every year that we are going to see a cooling period very soon. Soon just keeps getting further away.
Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years
 
Actually, wouldn't there be a cooling trend eventually as you move towards the equator once the Arctic shelves melt and then cool the waters of the jet stream?
 
Mr. Westwall claims that all the scientists in the American Geophysical Union, and the Geological Society of America are dishonest frauds. Kind of like the people that always are claiming that they can show how Einstein was wrong. And, if you dispute them, you are a dirty commie. LOL

Since he first started on this board, he has predicted every year that we are going to see a cooling period very soon. Soon just keeps getting further away.





No, I don't. I merely claim that the LEADERSHIP of those groups are corrupt. Huge difference. But you knew that and chose to lie anyway. It's what you do.....
 
Ok serious question. Some of the people here say that what climate scientists report is bullshit because they get money from the government to fund their research. Well since there is no money to be made doing your own research and footing the bill yourself... how else do you expect the researchers to fund their studies in order to find out what is going on and why?




Take a look at the ones pushing the AGW fraud, for fraud it is. They ALL are making millions for pushing it. The politicians want it because it gives them power. Thus you have a nexus of poor scientists, funded by power hungry politicians. Just like there is a military/industrial complex, there is likewise a political/climatology complex.

That doesn't answer my question. A scientist can't make money funding their own research. What can they hope for to make money back? A Nobel Prize? What's the odds of doing that? So how else do the scientist fund their research without government help? So how can these scientist be taken seriously by the deniers if all the deniers dismiss research that is obtained from government funded research? Sounds like this is some kind of...circle jerk thing where scientist can't win in the eyes of deniers.






Ask Mann how he managed to amass a 30 million dollar plus nest egg as a professor sometime.
 
http://sciencepolicy.agu.org/files/2013/07/AGU-Climate-Change-Position-Statement_August-2013.pdf

Human‐Induced Climate Change Requires Urgent Action

Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes. Human activities are changing Earth’s climate. At the global level, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and other heat‐trapping greenhouse gases have increased sharply since the Industrial Revolution. Fossil fuel burning dominates this increase. Human‐caused increases in greenhouse gases are responsible for most of the observed global average surface warming of roughly 0.8°C (1.5°F) over the past 140 years. Because natural processes cannot quickly remove some of these gases (notably carbon dioxide) from the atmosphere, our past, present, and future emissions will influence the climate system for millennia.

Extensive, independent observations confirm the reality of global warming. These observations show large‐scale increases in air and sea temperatures, sea level, and atmospheric water vapor; they document decreases in the extent of mountain glaciers, snow cover, permafrost, and Arctic sea ice. These changes are broadly consistent with long‐ understood physics and predictions of how the climate system is expected to respond to human‐caused increases in greenhouse gases. The changes are inconsistent with explanations of climate change that rely on known natural influences.

Climate models predict that global temperatures will continue to rise, with the amount of warming primarily determined by the level of emissions. Higher emissions of greenhouse gases will lead to larger warming, and greater risks to society and ecosystems. Some additional warming is unavoidable due to past emissions.

The position statement of the American Geophysical Union
 
Ok serious question. Some of the people here say that what climate scientists report is bullshit because they get money from the government to fund their research. Well since there is no money to be made doing your own research and footing the bill yourself... how else do you expect the researchers to fund their studies in order to find out what is going on and why?




Take a look at the ones pushing the AGW fraud, for fraud it is. They ALL are making millions for pushing it. The politicians want it because it gives them power. Thus you have a nexus of poor scientists, funded by power hungry politicians. Just like there is a military/industrial complex, there is likewise a political/climatology complex.

That doesn't answer my question. A scientist can't make money funding their own research. What can they hope for to make money back? A Nobel Prize? What's the odds of doing that? So how else do the scientist fund their research without government help? So how can these scientist be taken seriously by the deniers if all the deniers dismiss research that is obtained from government funded research? Sounds like this is some kind of...circle jerk thing where scientist can't win in the eyes of deniers.






Ask Mann how he managed to amass a 30 million dollar plus nest egg as a professor sometime.


You just said as a professor. That's not necessarily a researcher. How about providing a little more info? My cousin is a stem cell researcher and travels the country setting up stem cell studies... and he said he can't even afford to buy insurance.
 
https://www.geosociety.org/documents/gsa/positions/pos10_climate.pdf

Position Statement.

Decades of scientific research have shown that climate can change from both natural and anthropogenic causes. The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2011), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2013) and the U.S. Global Change Research Program (Melillo et al., 2014) that global climate has warmed in response to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases. The concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are now higher than they have been for many thousands of years. Human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) are the dominant cause of the rapid warming since the middle 1900s (IPCC, 2013). If the upward trend in greenhouse‐gas concentrations continues, the projected global climate change by the end of the twenty‐first century will result in significant impacts on humans and other species. The tangible effects of climate change are already occurring. Addressing the challenges posed by climate change will require a combination of adaptation to the changes that are likely to occur and global reductions of CO2 emissions from anthropogenic sources.

Purpose.

This position statement (1) summarizes the scientific basis for the conclusion that human activities are the primary cause of recent global warming; (2) describes the significant effects on humans and ecosystems as greenhouse‐gas concentrations and global climate reach projected levels; and (3) provides information for policy decisions guiding mitigation and adaptation strategies designed to address the current and future impacts of anthropogenic warming.

Geological Society of America statement on global warming
 
Ok serious question. Some of the people here say that what climate scientists report is bullshit because they get money from the government to fund their research. Well since there is no money to be made doing your own research and footing the bill yourself... how else do you expect the researchers to fund their studies in order to find out what is going on and why?




Take a look at the ones pushing the AGW fraud, for fraud it is. They ALL are making millions for pushing it. The politicians want it because it gives them power. Thus you have a nexus of poor scientists, funded by power hungry politicians. Just like there is a military/industrial complex, there is likewise a political/climatology complex.

That doesn't answer my question. A scientist can't make money funding their own research. What can they hope for to make money back? A Nobel Prize? What's the odds of doing that? So how else do the scientist fund their research without government help? So how can these scientist be taken seriously by the deniers if all the deniers dismiss research that is obtained from government funded research? Sounds like this is some kind of...circle jerk thing where scientist can't win in the eyes of deniers.






Ask Mann how he managed to amass a 30 million dollar plus nest egg as a professor sometime.
Why? I assume that maybe he is a pretty smart fellow.
 
Ok serious question. Some of the people here say that what climate scientists report is bullshit because they get money from the government to fund their research. Well since there is no money to be made doing your own research and footing the bill yourself... how else do you expect the researchers to fund their studies in order to find out what is going on and why?




Take a look at the ones pushing the AGW fraud, for fraud it is. They ALL are making millions for pushing it. The politicians want it because it gives them power. Thus you have a nexus of poor scientists, funded by power hungry politicians. Just like there is a military/industrial complex, there is likewise a political/climatology complex.

That doesn't answer my question. A scientist can't make money funding their own research. What can they hope for to make money back? A Nobel Prize? What's the odds of doing that? So how else do the scientist fund their research without government help? So how can these scientist be taken seriously by the deniers if all the deniers dismiss research that is obtained from government funded research? Sounds like this is some kind of...circle jerk thing where scientist can't win in the eyes of deniers.






Ask Mann how he managed to amass a 30 million dollar plus nest egg as a professor sometime.
Why? I assume that maybe he is a pretty smart fellow.







Yes, he is real good at fraud. How's his lawsuit against Dr. Ball going lately? Hmm? I hear he finally took down his claim to be a Nobel recipient. That true?
 
The normal yearly average in Svalbard, an island group midway between the North Pole and continental Norway, is minus 6.7 C (20 F) and the warmest year until now was 2006, when the average temperature in Svalbard was minus 1.8 C (29 F), Isaksen said.

"Svalbard is a very good spot to show what's happening in the Arctic at the moment," he said, noting that each of the past 73 months has been warmer than average.

Svalbard sees 'shocking' temperatures near freezing point
 
CLIMATE CHANGE = Spring - Summer - Fall - Winter.

CLIMATE CHANGE = liberal name change game for GLOBAL WARMING.
 
CO2 does not drive climate change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CO2 does not drive climate change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CO2 does not drive climate change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say it enough times and it might come true. And all the physicists in the world will stand amazed. Publish why this is so and win a Nobel.
If that were true then there should have been an immediate decrease of 7C in temperature when CO2 dropped from 3500 ppm to less than 1000 ppm. There wasn't. It took 12 million years for that to occur. 12 million years.

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Al Gore couldn't wait 12 million years, used the short form graph
 
European Forecasters Warn Winter 2016 – 2017 Will Be “Coldest In 100 Years”
Published on October 11, 2016

Written by mesastuces.net



European weather forecasters believe that the inhabitants of the old world should start now making provisions for sweaters and winter coats. The German meteorologist Dominik Jung said the 2016-2017 season promises to be “unusually cold.”


European forecasters warn winter 2016 – 2017 will be “coldest in 100 years”
 
So, if both these organizations have a corrupt leadership, then how about the Royal Society? Or the many other scientific organizations, like the American Meteorlogical Society, that state the same? All of these people are dishonest frauds, and you are the only honest scientist? LOL

 
European Forecasters Warn Winter 2016 – 2017 Will Be “Coldest In 100 Years”
Published on October 11, 2016

Written by mesastuces.net



European weather forecasters believe that the inhabitants of the old world should start now making provisions for sweaters and winter coats. The German meteorologist Dominik Jung said the 2016-2017 season promises to be “unusually cold.”


European forecasters warn winter 2016 – 2017 will be “coldest in 100 years”

Like I just asked... if the ice caps melt and lower the water temperatures in the jet stream, won't that make the winters worse in areas like the United States and Europe?
 

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