Antarctica undergoing severe and long-lasting heat wave

[EMH]

and Toddster and EMH had this "discussion" for all to see, that ALL THE ICE AGE DATA WE HAVE REFUTED McBULLSHIT and "glacials" by at least a factor of 10...

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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[Lastamender]

Climate change is a hoax to redistribute wealth and create a one world government where everyone but the elite will be miserable. Deal with it. You are a gullible sucker. You are dooming future generations to abject misery.

 

[EMH]

Climate change is a hoax to redistribute wealth and create a one world government where everyone but the elite will be miserable. Deal with it. You are a gullible sucker. You are dooming future generations to abject misery.

OK, my ally, please get the lingo straight.

Climate change is real, and Co2 has nothing to do with it. Earth climate change is about land near the poles and tectonic plate movement. Two polar oceans on Earth results in an Earth with no ice, twice the surface air pressure, warmer and wetter aka Jurassic... Earth today has 9 million cubic miles of ice.

Global Warming aka the Co2 FRAUD is FRAUD and a "hoax" and involves Mengele caliber sick liars, criminals, traitors, the most anti environmental whack jobs ever. These sick people cheer these fires they misdiagnose and want to exterminate all farm animals.

 

[Crick]

OK, my ally, please get the lingo straight.

Climate change is real, and Co2 has nothing to do with it. Earth climate change is about land near the poles and tectonic plate movement. Two polar oceans on Earth results in an Earth with no ice, twice the surface air pressure, warmer and wetter aka Jurassic... Earth today has 9 million cubic miles of ice.

Global Warming aka the Co2 FRAUD is FRAUD and a "hoax" and involves Mengele caliber sick liars, criminals, traitors, the most anti environmental whack jobs ever. These sick people cheer these fires they misdiagnose and want to exterminate all farm animals.

And what if you ally doesn't agree with you? Will you put him in front of that firing squad as well?

 

[EMH]

And what if you ally doesn't agree with you? Will you put him in front of that firing squad as well?

You are a traitor, a participant in a deliberate and intentional fraud that has bilked America tens of trillions while misdiagnosing things like the fires, cheering the fires.

The Co2 FRAUD is treason, and everyone who has covered up that truth in the DoJ deserves a traitor's death.

 

[Crick]

You are a traitor, a participant in a deliberate and intentional fraud that has bilked America tens of trillions while misdiagnosing things like the fires, cheering the fires.

The Co2 FRAUD is treason, and everyone who has covered up that truth in the DoJ deserves a traitor's death.

We fought a war against the Nazis and they lost. Many were executed afterwards for war crimes. The Holocaust is regarded as perhaps the greatest crime against humanity in all human existence. Yet that seems to be the side you've picked. Care to explain?

 

[EMH]

We fought a war against the Nazis and they lost. Many were executed afterwards for war crimes. The Holocaust is regarded as perhaps the greatest crime against humanity in all human existence. Yet that seems to be the side you've picked. Care to explain?

YOUR SIDE IS FASCIST, just like Einstein warned us in 1948...

Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel

and indeed, from the USS Liberty to 911 to the Co2 FRAUD, Einstein was SPOT ON CORRECT, which is why you LIE about being a Floridian.....

 

[Crick]

YOUR SIDE IS FASCIST, just like Einstein warned us in 1948...

Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel

and indeed, from the USS Liberty to 911 to the Co2 FRAUD, Einstein was SPOT ON CORRECT, which is why you LIE about being a Floridian.....

None of that changes the fact that you're an antisemitic Nazi. And I take it that you live in Florida, right?

 

[EMH]

None of that changes the fact that you're an antisemitic Nazi.

Libertarians are the exact opposite of fascists. We believe in truth, especially on the subject of Co2 and Earth climate change...

 

[Crick]

Libertarians are the exact opposite of fascists. We believe in truth, especially on the subject of Co2 and Earth climate change...

Given the full corpus of your postings here you would have an extremely difficult case making a case that you've ever spoken the truth on any topic in all your days.

 

[ding]

LOL!!!

If your beaked birdbrain can parrot it, it must be true.

How did Greenland freeze while North America thawed AT THE SAME TIME?

Answer = that FACT completely disproves your "glacials" TAXPAYER FUNDED FUDGED BULLSHIT

You believe plate tectonics kept moving Greenland back and forth.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Imagine what kind of stuff we will lose to sea level going up 10 or 20 feet.

None of us will be here and neither will our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and great, great grandchildren.

My grandfather was a child when the Wright Brothers flew the first airplane, and I was an 8-year-old when man walked on the moon. Our technology is increasing faster than the so-called warming. We will adapt and overcome.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Don't expect a conversation out of this, just a correction.

Wrong. The poles are warming faster than the rest of the planet for several reasons: polar amplification due to loss of albedo as ice melts and exposes dark water and land, changing air movements due to the widespread global warming bringing moist, warm tropical air to the normally cold and stable poles and soot from burning fossil fuels reducing the albedo of the ice that remains.

How do you know the temperature of the poles say in 1800? No one had been there to measure it.

 

[EMH]

You believe plate tectonics kept moving Greenland back and forth.

That's the lie of the "glacials."

Greenland's ice cores show what??

That Greenland has added ice layers for hundreds of thousands of years. And during those hundreds of thousands of years, a lot of ice on North America melted.

The documentation of Greenland's ice is here...

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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[EMH]

None of us will be here and neither will our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and great, great grandchildren.

My grandfather was a child when the Wright Brothers flew the first airplane, and I was an 8-year-old when man walked on the moon. Our technology is increasing faster than the so-called warming. We will adapt and overcome.

Outside of the surface of growing urban areas, there is NO WARMING.

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT IN CANE ACTIVITY

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

North America THAWED while Greenland FROZE

When did North America freeze while Greenland thawed?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We have completely defined faults and tectonic movement. The "Milankovich Cycles" tries, laughably, to FUDGE the past tectonic movement, but the course of North America and Greenland is essentially the same vector on a sphere, propelled by the same fault in the center bottom of the Atlantic. North America's ice age started 30-50 million years ago when North America was in the same location that Greenland is now. Once North America passed the "closest to the pole" position, it ceased moving NW and started moving SW, all on the same vector on the same sphere.


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North America's ice age started 30-50 million years ago when North America was in the same location that Greenland is now. Once North America passed the "closest to the pole" position, it ceased moving NW and started moving SW, all on the same vector on the same sphere.

We're back to your "North America was covered with ice for the last 30-50 million years
until, 20,000 years ago or so, North America finally moved far enough away from the North Pole to thaw"?

Is that correct?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and Toddster and EMH had this "discussion" for all to see, that ALL THE ICE AGE DATA WE HAVE REFUTED McBULLSHIT and "glacials" by at least a factor of 10...

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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You have Ice Age data that I don't have?

 

[EMH]

When did North America freeze while Greenland thawed?

North American Ice Age started 30-50 million years ago and lasted until 10k or so years ago. Greenland was unfrozen at that time, moving NW to where it is today. Greenland's ice age is under 2 million years old. So when North America froze 30-50 million years ago, that did not change the status of Greenland being unfrozen until the past million or so years.

 

[EMH]

You have Ice Age data that I don't have?

From the link provided...


What is the EVIDENCE???


1. LIFE

Any evidence of LIFE on Chicago for the past 50 million years .... NO

Any evidence of LIFE on Greenland.... YES

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green​

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com
The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetle

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature​

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

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So it is fair to say that the ice covering Greenland started up north in the past 2 million years, got to the middle of Greenland 400-800k years ago, and flushed out the Vikings in the 1400s on the southern tip, since when the Vikings found the Southern Tip of Greenland, they called it GREENland because it was green and were able to farm there for centuries before the Greenland ice age pushed them off...


Any evidence of life on Antarctica?

antarctic dinosaurs 70 million years ago - Google Search
This Cretaceous period dinosaur lived about 70 million years ago, towards the end of the Mesozoic Era. A bipedal, long-necked, plant-eating dinosaur (a sauropod) was discovered in the Antarctic interior by William R. Hammer and his team in late 2003.


For the record, prior to 2010 nobody disputed that Antarctic ice was at least 40 million years old. McBullshit disputes that completely...


2. Speed of ice age glacier

Indeed, the data from Greenland above is the best data we have, since it is recent and conclusive. It took Greenland's ice age somewhere between 500k years and 2 million years from its beginning at the northern part of Greenland to get to where it is now.


That is WAY SLOWER than McBullshit suggests.


3. size of the glacier

Greenland's ice is not yet 2 miles thick anywhere. Below the Arctic Circle, Greenland's ice is under 1 mile thick.

Hence the claim of 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago being 75k years old is, well, NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA POINT GREENLAND at all.

Antarctica has 2.5 mile thick glacier. There is a dispute over the age of those too. McBullshit claims it is not that old and that while sitting on the South Pole Antarctica has frozen and thawed over and over like Dennis Quaid claimed in the movie "Day After Tomorrow"

4. ice cores

antarctic ice cores years - Google Search
The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment


And hence it is fair to say that the 2.5 mile thick glacier on Antarctica is WAY OLDER than 75k years... to put it mildly.

Even the Greenland ice is way older than that too, and it has yet to get to 2 miles thick



5. tectonic plate movement

Reiny recently claimed Greenland is part of North America. Not on my map. But it is on the SAME TECTONIC PLATE moving on the same vector because of the angle of the fault in the North Atlantic

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That fault has pushed Greenland NW and Europe SE for tens of millions of years, and hence explains why all of Europe's glaciers are melting while Greenland went into ice age. It was also pushing North America NW until NA got to its closest point to the pole, and then NA started moving SW on the SAME VECTOR on a SPHERE...

Accepting the 600 miles to the pole = your land entered an ice age

North America would have been in ice age for 30-50 million years, and would have been where Greenland is today 30-50 million years ago. The accepted date of that prior to 2010 was 50 million years...




Hence, the evidence that the glaciers on Chicago 2.5 miles thick were 75k years old is contrary to ALL DATA ON ICE AGES AND GLACIERS on the planet today.

The ice cores prove glaciers 2.5 miles thick TODAY are WAY OLDER than 75k years.

So is McBullshit wrong??


To me that is shockingly obvious. McBullshit is about fudging climate history after homO went silent

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

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