Any Musk Haters out there bold enough to have a real discussion on Elon Musk?

[Harry Dresden]

They have to be begged to go back to work in the office 5 days a week, so yes they do get treated better seemingly.

In any event this is just a distraction from the main issue. Most government jobs come with ZERO accountability.

geezus marty why wont you answer what i asked?....im talking about when they are in the fucking building working...do they get treated better?.....do the wonderful bosses treat then better than the private bosses so they wont need a union?....

 

[martybegan]

geezus marty why wont you answer what i asked?....im talking about when they are in the fucking building working...do they get treated better?.....do the wonderful bosses treat then better than the private bosses so they wont need a union?....

We are their bosses.

Sorry, but you either can get civil service protections, or you can have a union, you can't have both.

 

[Harry Dresden]

We are their bosses.

Sorry, but you either can get civil service protections, or you can have a union, you can't have both.

what do civil service protections are there to help the workers against shitty bosses?...how about safety on the work room floor?....

 

[martybegan]

what do civil service protections are there to help the workers against shitty bosses?...how about safety on the work room floor?....

OSHA doesn't apply to non-union shops?

Government unions are a terrible idea, as FDR said so. The problem is you eliminate the give and take between management and the workers via ALL of them even the management being in unions, and ZERO need for the political people to fight back against the union demands because the unions are the ones that can get them elected.

 

[Harry Dresden]

OSHA doesn't apply to non-union shops?

Government unions are a terrible idea, as FDR said so. The problem is you eliminate the give and take between management and the workers via ALL of them even the management being in unions, and ZERO need for the political people to fight back against the union demands because the unions are the ones that can get them elected.

OSHA?....you mean like their sister organization?...dont make me laugh we dealt with then many a time...the PO tells them they are working on it OSHA says ok were just checking....weeks later the union had to get involved because that safety issue was still there.....and OSHA doesnt deal with asshole managers...and at the PO bargaining table the only ones there are the unions and postal management...and no the managers are not in the union....

 

[martybegan]

OSHA?....you mean like their sister organization?...dont make me laugh we dealt with then many a time...the PO tells them they are working on it OSHA says ok were just checking....weeks later the union had to get involved because that safety issue was still there.....and OSHA doesnt deal with asshole managers...and at the PO bargaining table the only ones there are the unions and postal management...and no the managers are not in the union....

And?

Word salad is word salad.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And?

Word salad is word salad.

marty you dont know shit about what goes on in a govt facility...yea i know you work for someone who says they do....your word salad...

 

[Correll]

Nope. I don't hate white guys.

Interesting. I clearly stated that you were hating that "white guys were getting their voices heard" and instead of addressing my actual point, you addressed a strawman.

That indicates strong, very strongly, that my point was so correct, that you felt all you could do, was run from it. Like a little girl.

You are talking to the wrong person. Secondly, if you think you are "getting your way", just wait till they screw you over and shoot a fat load in where you don't want that fat load.

I am totally getting my way. The policies being enacted, the defunding of leftard organizations and policies,

this is all me. This is MY "fat load" and YOU are the one that is not wanting it. So, that works for me. Just fine.

 

[Tyrion234]

He's a fake bitch put forth by the establishment just like the other fake bitch Trump. This is to give the angry but dumb white guys the illusion that their voice is finally being heard.

Im2fckingdumb would say white voices are the only ones to ever be heard. Hence all the summer of love bullshit, no one will pay attention to the poor black man unless they commit crimes and act like monkeys

 

[MayorQuimby]

Interesting. I clearly stated that you were hating that "white guys were getting their voices heard" and instead of addressing my actual point, you addressed a strawman.

That indicates strong, very strongly, that my point was so correct, that you felt all you could do, was run from it. Like a little girl.



I am totally getting my way. The policies being enacted, the defunding of leftard organizations and policies,

this is all me. This is MY "fat load" and YOU are the one that is not wanting it. So, that works for me. Just fine.

Dude, I think you are over-reacting. I hate lefties too.

 

[Correll]

Dude, I think you are over-reacting. I hate lefties too.

Sure you do. Mr. "stupid white guys".

 

[MayorQuimby]

Sure you do. Mr. "stupid white guys".

Dude, I really don't hate white guys. When I said "dumb white guys", I should have made it more clear that I meant the ones who are dumb and would fall for stuff like that. I realize and acknowledge that there are plenty of white guys who are smart and don't fall for people like Musk. But they are in the minority.

 

[Correll]

Dude, I really don't hate white guys. When I said "dumb white guys", I should have made it more clear that I meant the ones who are dumb and would fall for stuff like that. I realize and acknowledge that there are plenty of white guys who are smart and don't fall for people like Musk. But they are in the minority.

Except, before Trump the conventional wisdom among the elite was that there were no more votes to be found from "white guys" and that policy needed to be crafted to appeal to the new growing demographics, and the interests of white guys were to be ignored, if not outright attacked.

YOu can see that mindset among the lefties and some old school FREE TRADE conservatives on this very site.

You mention "white interests" or "white male interests" and the response is like a playbook.

1. Deny that there are such interests. 2. Insist that white males have privilege. 3. Insist on pretending that you are pushing against equality trying to hold on to white supremacy. 4 attack you personally for not being successful. 5 Attack all non successful white males for being dumb or lazy.


Trump and MAGA are the only people who are even open to the idea of crafting policy to serve our interests.


To call us dumb for betting on the only ones even willing to try for us, as opposed to the crowd that wrote us off decades ago,

is actually the dumb move.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Except, before Trump the conventional wisdom among the elite was that there were no more votes to be found from "white guys" and that policy needed to be crafted to appeal to the new growing demographics, and the interests of white guys were to be ignored, if not outright attacked.

YOu can see that mindset among the lefties and some old school FREE TRADE conservatives on this very site.

You mention "white interests" or "white male interests" and the response is like a playbook.

1. Deny that there are such interests. 2. Insist that white males have privilege. 3. Insist on pretending that you are pushing against equality trying to hold on to white supremacy. 4 attack you personally for not being successful. 5 Attack all non successful white males for being dumb or lazy.


Trump and MAGA are the only people who are even open to the idea of crafting policy to serve our interests.


To call us dumb for betting on the only ones even willing to try for us, as opposed to the crowd that wrote us off decades ago,

is actually the dumb move.

I am not calling white guys dumb. It's like I said, I didn't make my post clear enough. When I said, "angry but dumb white guys", I didn't mean ALL white guys are dumb. What I should have said is "those white guys who are dumb". Ok?

I don't see the point of turning this into an argument because I am essentially on the same page as you. Btw, I probably hate lefties more than you do.

 

[merrill]

Are there any Musk haters out there who would like to state what they believe motivates Elon Musk? Is it money? Is it power? Is it the attention? Is it something else? Let's see if anyone of you can clearly state WHY you hate him, WHEN you discovered you hated him and WHAT you believe motivates him. And anything else you would care to add.

To start the discussion, I will offer my opinion FWIW. I think Elon recognizes what an incredible point in American history this is. He also recognizes what a truly remarkable man Donald Trump is. By the sheer force of his will, he reshaped the aimless and feckless GOP and has all but rendered the Democratic Party helpless. When he survived the assassination attempt in Butler Pa by literally a fraction of an inch, that was the epiphany moment for Elon. "This man is history in the making and by God I am going to help him make it!".

So what say you, besides of course your silly "funny" emojis that I love to collect. Anything? Anything at all? Let's see.

Musk, Trump, Vance and all of the other new faces must go....thay are anti American Fascists

 

[MarathonMike]

Musk, Trump, Vance and all of the other new faces must go....thay are anti American Fascists

Clearly this thread is over your head. Next.