CDZ are bad cops the product of individuals suffering from mental illness caused by what theyve seen policing violent inner cities ?

[Dagosa]

The real fact is bad cops are extremely rare, and all the bullshit about 'raycisism n stuff!' is also bullshit. The 'War on Blacks' is nothng but a media myth put out by deviants and commies and black pols who need to deflect from their own corruption and failures in running their own cities and school systems for 6 or 7 decades, producing far worse results among black people than Jim Crow ever did before the 1940's. 'Bad' killings by police officers are statistically insignificant, barely even noticable without a media who makes every violent doped up thug who resisted arrest a 'victim' and a corrupt national media fake news story for weeks.

Bad policing practices cover more than just murdering people. Very often the murder is just the spark that ignites long simmering resentment at a police department that refuses to look at a bunch of minor incidents of false arrest, harassment, criminality and brutality.

Rubbish. The cities with the worst 'problems' are those run by Democrats and black pols. If the cops are crooked it's because the the Mayor and the councils are. Yes, it is that simple, and babbling about 'racism' is just deflection and lying.

You seriously don't know that the police are themselves a political entity often at odds with city government? Their powerful unions and sheer administrative inertia make them quite difficult to deal with. They go to ridiculous lengths to protect their own from the law they are supposed to enforce. The police are at their core authoritarian and do not readily submit to the will of the people.

That’s because of the job they do and what you’re asking of them. They are expected to be public servants on one end and literally a soldier on the other. Domestic violence and abuse confrontations on one end and civil unrest on the other. Its one of the most demanding jobs there are. You want better cops ? First, require all to have 4 year college degrees and secondly, pay them accordingly. I was a cop in a force near a college town where 75% of the force had bachelors and half of us had master degrees. We had many fewer problems handling the same people as the a larger metro town with cops of less training education and training in specialized areas. But at some point, there is no substitute for a full military option from specialized forces. We were lucky. The state police barracks was nearby and back up for all of us. The cops can’t do everything and related resources have to be ready when called for...that’s expensive.

Well said; it's really more than ridiculous to make so many demands on police, though, and demand they do well at all of them: emergency first responders, family counselers and social workers, elderly care specialists, firefighters, race car stunt drivers, expert marksmen able to shoot guns out of people's hands like they do in the westerns n stuff without killing anybody, expert martial artists, expert psychiatrists who can instantly diagnose every kind of nutjobbery and dope crazed idiocy, and a range of other skills to be invented depending on the latest 'atrocity' the media fabricates.

Exactly. One of the most demanding situations are motor vehicle accidents where you may be expected to administer first aid, direct traffic all the while filling out an important accident report. Add to that insurance requirements with personal injury and you could be spending time in court testifying another day. None of it that requires firearms training but all requires varied skills. The emphasis is way more on firearms training and yet there are few instances where cops are involve in their entire career. It becomes a waste of training for many.

 

[sartre play]

To many think they are above the law, to many are militaristic, to many are undertrained & underpaid. Yes dealing with the negative can affect your attitude. we need good police, not a dam thing wrong with wanting improvement in one of the most important day to day jobs. that's not bashing police, higher expectations bring better results for both the police & the public.

 

[Picaro]

To many think they are above the law, to many are militaristic, to many are undertrained & underpaid. Yes dealing with the negative can affect your attitude. we need good police, not a dam thing wrong with wanting improvement in one of the most important day to day jobs. that's not bashing police, higher expectations bring better results for both the police & the public.

Bullshit. All you leftists are doing is driving smart people a way from the job; nobody with an IQ over 60 is going near a job that gets you charged with murder for defending yourself from violent felons and thugs and have to face kangaroo courts of infantile deviants with hair-brained 'social justice' fallacies as a substitute for morals and common sense.

Training? It would take a decade or more to train anybody in what you clueless tards think cops should be expert at, and tha twould jsut be the basics. You're idiots.

Here's a better idea: quit encouraging cop baiting and violently resisting arrest over nothing stops, take the Bling out the latest ghetto hood rat game show of that stuff, and you'll see a much greater drop in such incidences.

But nah, you tards get off on it, really; you like seeing the videos, watch them over and over and over again, they're commie porn.

 

[San Souci]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

Probably not. Sometimes bad PEOPLE slip through the cracks and get into positions of power. There is no accounting for it.

 

[Bush92]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

Law enforcement officers have to deal with the absolute scum of our society. Those people liberals want to keep in communities and on welfare for a Democratic vote. They risk their life every single day for what? So BLM, Antifa, and DNC can equate the to fascist? So BLM, Antifa, DNC, and liberal media can promote that they be murdered in cold blood.

 

[Bush92]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

Probably not. Sometimes bad PEOPLE slip through the cracks and get into positions of power. There is no accounting for it.

Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler anger me too.

 

[Dagosa]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

Law enforcement officers have to deal with the absolute scum of our society. Those people liberals want to keep in communities and on welfare for a Democratic vote. They risk their life every single day for what? So BLM, Antifa, and DNC can equate the to fascist? So BLM, Antifa, DNC, and liberal media can promote that they be murdered in cold blood.

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

Law enforcement officers have to deal with the absolute scum of our society. Those people liberals want to keep in communities and on welfare for a Democratic vote. They risk their life every single day for what? So BLM, Antifa, and DNC can equate the to fascist? So BLM, Antifa, DNC, and liberal media can promote that they be murdered in cold blood.

That’s wrong. You think most of being a cop is about catching bad guys ? Wrong. It’s mostly public relations.
Accidents, traffic detail, domestic disturbance
etc can encompass People from every class.

 

[San Souci]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

Probably not. Sometimes bad PEOPLE slip through the cracks and get into positions of power. There is no accounting for it.

Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler anger me too.

They prove the point I made.

 

[Blues Man]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

No they are bad cops because they have been trained to see the people they are supposed to protect as the enemy

 

[Picaro]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

No they are bad cops because they have been trained to see the people they are supposed to protect as the enemy

More rubbish. They deal with all levels of society; you think you're 'speshul' and have some right to get away with all kinds of stupid shit, like 10 year olds, so you nearly always try and escalate with even more stupidity and idiotic behaviors. Blacks work hard at earning all the stereotyping and bad feeling they generate, with a few exceptions, the people you and Biden claim 'aren't black'. If what you tards lie and try to peddle was true, where are all the Asians and other minorities that should be filling up the jails and news with fake 'atrocity' stories?

 

[harmonica]

The real fact is bad cops are extremely rare, and all the bullshit about 'raycisism n stuff!' is also bullshit. The 'War on Blacks' is nothng but a media myth put out by deviants and commies and black pols who need to deflect from their own corruption and failures in running their own cities and school systems for 6 or 7 decades, producing far worse results among black people than Jim Crow ever did before the 1940's. 'Bad' killings by police officers are statistically insignificant, barely even noticable without a media who makes every violent doped up thug who resisted arrest a 'victim' and a corrupt national media fake news story for weeks.

Bad policing practices cover more than just murdering people. Very often the murder is just the spark that ignites long simmering resentment at a police department that refuses to look at a bunch of minor incidents of false arrest, harassment, criminality and brutality.

..there is not a problem or police brutality or ''murders'' [ the cop was not trying to kill jackass criminal Floyd ]..he was trying to detain him

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[harmonica]

The real fact is bad cops are extremely rare, and all the bullshit about 'raycisism n stuff!' is also bullshit. The 'War on Blacks' is nothng but a media myth put out by deviants and commies and black pols who need to deflect from their own corruption and failures in running their own cities and school systems for 6 or 7 decades, producing far worse results among black people than Jim Crow ever did before the 1940's. 'Bad' killings by police officers are statistically insignificant, barely even noticable without a media who makes every violent doped up thug who resisted arrest a 'victim' and a corrupt national media fake news story for weeks.

Bad policing practices cover more than just murdering people. Very often the murder is just the spark that ignites long simmering resentment at a police department that refuses to look at a bunch of minor incidents of false arrest, harassment, criminality and brutality.

Rubbish. The cities with the worst 'problems' are those run by Democrats and black pols. If the cops are crooked it's because the the Mayor and the councils are. Yes, it is that simple, and babbling about 'racism' is just deflection and lying.

You seriously don't know that the police are themselves a political entity often at odds with city government? Their powerful unions and sheer administrative inertia make them quite difficult to deal with. They go to ridiculous lengths to protect their own from the law they are supposed to enforce. The police are at their core authoritarian and do not readily submit to the will of the people.

That’s because of the job they do and what you’re asking of them. They are expected to be public servants on one end and literally a soldier on the other. Domestic violence and abuse confrontations on one end and civil unrest on the other. Its one of the most demanding jobs there are. You want better cops ? First, require all to have 4 year college degrees and secondly, pay them accordingly. I was a cop in a force near a college town where 75% of the force had bachelors and half of us had master degrees. We had many fewer problems handling the same people as the a larger metro town with cops of less training. But at some point, there is no substitute for a full military option from specialized forces. We were lucky. The state police barracks was nearby and back up for all of us. The cops can’t do everything and related resources have to be ready when called for...that’s expensive.

We are dealing with a solvable problem here but some of the authoritarian elements have to change and a lot of crappy cops have to go. It will be slow and there will be mistakes but keeping things the same or ramping up the authoritarianism are not valid options.

There are lots of studies out there and they all have similar patterns. The higher the level of education and specialize training, the fewer the problems as far as police is concerned. It’s an ongoing process. In the military you’re paid according to your grade level which is dependent upon an ongoing educational level in your specialty. Do the same with a police force.

..experts in their fields with high IQs ''kill'' hundreds = pilots
..parents ''kill'' their kids by leaving them in cars
..you can't stop humans from making mistakes

 

[harmonica]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

..police make mistakes like EVERYONE else
..these jackasses like Floyd are not rational, nice people--which make mistakes MORE likely
..sure there are jackass cops ...but there is not a problem of police ''''murders'' or brutality

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[OnePercenter]

If cops continue to kill bad guys like Floyd there aren't any bad cops.

 

[Dagosa]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

..police make mistakes like EVERYONE else
..these jackasses like Floyd are not rational, nice people--which make mistakes MORE likely
..sure there are jackass cops ...but there is not a problem of police ''''murders'' or brutality

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

So, it was a mistake to place a knee an the neck of a man cuffed on the ground for 8 minutes till he died.
So, you're fine with Executions by mistake.

 

[Dagosa]

If cops continue to kill bad guys like Floyd there aren't any bad cops.

Sure. They’re executioners.

The real fact is bad cops are extremely rare, and all the bullshit about 'raycisism n stuff!' is also bullshit. The 'War on Blacks' is nothng but a media myth put out by deviants and commies and black pols who need to deflect from their own corruption and failures in running their own cities and school systems for 6 or 7 decades, producing far worse results among black people than Jim Crow ever did before the 1940's. 'Bad' killings by police officers are statistically insignificant, barely even noticable without a media who makes every violent doped up thug who resisted arrest a 'victim' and a corrupt national media fake news story for weeks.

Bad policing practices cover more than just murdering people. Very often the murder is just the spark that ignites long simmering resentment at a police department that refuses to look at a bunch of minor incidents of false arrest, harassment, criminality and brutality.

..there is not a problem or police brutality or ''murders'' [ the cop was not trying to kill jackass criminal Floyd ]..he was trying to detain him

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

. You don’t detain people all ready cuffed and face down

 

[harmonica]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

..police make mistakes like EVERYONE else
..these jackasses like Floyd are not rational, nice people--which make mistakes MORE likely
..sure there are jackass cops ...but there is not a problem of police ''''murders'' or brutality

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

So, it was a mistake to place a knee an the neck of a man cuffed on the ground for 8 minutes till he died.
So, you're fine with Executions by mistake.

..parents leave their kids in cars for HOURS-and they die
..he wasn't trying to kill him--he was trying to subdue him--and that takes time
..again, he wasn't trying to kill him and it was not racial ....
..it appears he did it the wrong way
..cops are not human???!!!????!!!!

..these are DYNAMIC situations...it's like combat---you can train for years and it's not like the real thing
...it's not like he's making a cheese sandwich

.....you people are so full of shit with your ''execution'''..here is the definition since you don't know what it is

Definition of EXECUTION

the act or process of executing : performance; a putting to death especially as a legal penalty; the process of enforcing a legal judgment (as against a debtor); also : a judicial writ directing such enforcement… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

..I've explained it all here:

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[harmonica]

If cops continue to kill bad guys like Floyd there aren't any bad cops.

Sure. They’re executioners.

The real fact is bad cops are extremely rare, and all the bullshit about 'raycisism n stuff!' is also bullshit. The 'War on Blacks' is nothng but a media myth put out by deviants and commies and black pols who need to deflect from their own corruption and failures in running their own cities and school systems for 6 or 7 decades, producing far worse results among black people than Jim Crow ever did before the 1940's. 'Bad' killings by police officers are statistically insignificant, barely even noticable without a media who makes every violent doped up thug who resisted arrest a 'victim' and a corrupt national media fake news story for weeks.

Bad policing practices cover more than just murdering people. Very often the murder is just the spark that ignites long simmering resentment at a police department that refuses to look at a bunch of minor incidents of false arrest, harassment, criminality and brutality.

..there is not a problem or police brutality or ''murders'' [ the cop was not trying to kill jackass criminal Floyd ]..he was trying to detain him

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

. You don’t detain people all ready cuffed and face down

..yes you do--if they resisted arrest before---
...you are typical of a lot of people--you think in movie/TV terms--not reality
..OBVIOUSLY, if Floyd did as he was legally told to do, obeyed legal commands, he would not have put his knee on his neck

 

[harmonica]

weve all seen the videos of cops [though few they are] acting violently when there is no need or taking things to far to the point of criminality ....but one thing iv'e noticed is that not all but the majority of these bad cop incidences occur in violent high crime cities ... could it be that for some people policing in those areas and seeing the murder ,rape , assault and other acts of violence on a daily basis have a negative effect on their psychological health ? no im not trying to make excuses for bad cops ...they should be held accountable when they commit a crime . but maybe putting a cop in a violent high crime area for long periods of time [years] may play a role in police brutality .....

..police make mistakes like EVERYONE else
..these jackasses like Floyd are not rational, nice people--which make mistakes MORE likely
..sure there are jackass cops ...but there is not a problem of police ''''murders'' or brutality

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

So, it was a mistake to place a knee an the neck of a man cuffed on the ground for 8 minutes till he died.
So, you're fine with Executions by mistake.

the dumbass, irrational criminal was resisting

Video shows officers apparently struggling with George Floyd in car

The video lines up with the criminal complaint filed against Derek Chauvin, detailing what happened at 8:18 p.m., when the video is time-stamped.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[ABikerSailor]

The job attracts certain types of individuals that are ill suited for police work. The sadist, the racist, the weakling looking for respect, the lazy looking for a civil service job. Can't see that any department does enough to weed out the ones wanting to be a cop for the wrong reasons.

I've often felt that way as well. Only 30 percent of the population in the US between the ages of 18 and 35 are eligible to serve in the military. But, apparently, just about anyone can be a cop. There is also the question of training as well. I was on the Security Force while stationed at Newport RI, and we weren't taught to empty our weapon into a target, we were taught to fire a couple of rounds, stop, assess the situation, and fire more rounds down range if required, but if not, stop shooting. We were taught to use only the minimum force required for the situation.