Zone1 Are Jews Still the Chosen People?

[jwoodie]

Are Jews still the "chosen people?" Most Christians believe that God in human form (Jesus) fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy of a Messiah for the Jewish people. Since most Jews rejected Jesus, didn't they also reject God himself? If so, how could they still remain His chosen people? If they are not, what is their status according to Christian theology?

 

[rosends]

Yes. There is nothing in the text which says are not still chosen. Do you understand what Jews are "chosen" for?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Are Jews still the "chosen people?" Most Christians believe that God in human form (Jesus) fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy of a Messiah for the Jewish people. Since most Jews rejected Jesus, didn't they also reject God himself? If so, how could they still remain His chosen people? If they are not, what is their status according to Christian theology?

G-d provided Moses with the instructions.

Jews have a higher obligation. It may not be fair but for our civilization with the assistance from non-Jews will achieve the highest of goals. When is the question, we appear to be so far away as a civilization.

Let's start with ensuring the protection and expansion of Judeo-Christian values in the West. If this is defended our civilization can thrive and the Torah will be fulfilled.

It's starts with each of us. Protect was is good, the light. Defeat what is evil, the darkness.

These concepts are universal and ubiquitous with human progress. Again, we must all do our part, history have shown what happens when good men stand down and ignore abuses of others.

 

[Mac-7]

Yes

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Are Jews still the "chosen people?" Most Christians believe that God in human form (Jesus) fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy of a Messiah for the Jewish people. Since most Jews rejected Jesus, didn't they also reject God himself? If so, how could they still remain His chosen people? If they are not, what is their status according to Christian theology?

And God Sent Satan to Have His Way with the Arabs

The Jews were already saved. God sent His Son to save the Gentiles, but Jesus needed a few Jews to help Him.

 

[Rigby5]

Are Jews still the "chosen people?" Most Christians believe that God in human form (Jesus) fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy of a Messiah for the Jewish people. Since most Jews rejected Jesus, didn't they also reject God himself? If so, how could they still remain His chosen people? If they are not, what is their status according to Christian theology?

No god could ever have a "chosen people" and anyone who claims to be that are guilty of the sins of arrogance and pride, in order to justify murder and theft.

Like Joshua massacring the Canaanite women and children when he invaded Jericho.
That clearly was pure evil.
The Hebrew should have stayed in the Sinai where they were legal, instead of being criminals and invading the Land of Canaan.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes. There is nothing in the text which says are not still chosen. Do you understand what Jews are "chosen" for?

The Jews clearly are not "chosen".
The only reason anyone would be "chosen" would be if they had a burden to promote justice.
And since the Jews did not do that, and instead invaded, murdered, and stolen, they clearly could not be the "chosen".
In fact, the whole Old Testament is evil, with woman not having rights, rape, murder, and slavery being rampant, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

G-d provided Moses with the instructions.

Jews have a higher obligation. It may not be fair but for our civilization with the assistance from non-Jews will achieve the highest of goals. When is the question, we appear to be so far away as a civilization.

Let's start with ensuring the protection and expansion of Judeo-Christian values in the West. If this is defended our civilization can thrive and the Torah will be fulfilled.

It's starts with each of us. Protect was is good, the light. Defeat what is evil, the darkness.

These concepts are universal and ubiquitous with human progress. Again, we must all do our part, history have shown what happens when good men stand down and ignore abuses of others.

To protect instead of being evil, would mean the Hebrew would never have invaded the Land of Canaan and massacre the natives like they did.

The Canaanites were one of the best societies in the world, going back to 8000 BC, creating the first metropolis, and allowing the Phoenicians, Philistines, Chaldeans, Nabateans, etc., to all live together in peace.
By the Hebrew massacring the Canaanites, the Hebrew threw the whole Mideast into centuries of war and slavery.
The Canaanites had created stability, and their defeat meant the Hitties, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Seleucids, Romans, etc. would periodically ravage the Mideast.

 

[Rigby5]

And God Sent Satan to Have His Way with the Arabs

The Jews were already saved. God sent His Son to save the Gentiles, but Jesus needed a few Jews to help Him.

Wrong.
The Jews oppressed women and had no sense of justice, so Mohammed had to fix those problems.
The Moslems are a vast improvement over the Hebrew barbarism, like stoning for adultery, women not being allowed to own property, vote, testify, inherit, divorce, etc.
The Old Testament is about as evil as one could get.
Anything is an improvement.

 

[rosends]

The Jews clearly are not "chosen".
The only reason anyone would be "chosen" would be if they had a burden to promote justice.
And since the Jews did not do that, and instead invaded, murdered, and stolen, they clearly could not be the "chosen".
In fact, the whole Old Testament is evil, with woman not having rights, rape, murder, and slavery being rampant, etc.

So you start with an unsubstantiated claim "The only reason anyone would be "chosen" would be if they had a burden to promote justice."

Since that claim is baseless, your conclusion is fatally flawed.

 

[shockedcanadian]

To protect instead of being evil, would mean the Hebrew would never have invaded the Land of Canaan and massacre the natives like they did.

The Canaanites were one of the best societies in the world, going back to 8000 BC, creating the first metropolis, and allowing the Phoenicians, Philistines, Chaldeans, Nabateans, etc., to all live together in peace.
By the Hebrew massacring the Canaanites, the Hebrew threw the whole Mideast into centuries of war and slavery.
The Canaanites had created stability, and their defeat meant the Hitties, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Seleucids, Romans, etc. would periodically ravage the Mideast.

The year is 2025. Who has done more for the progress of global liberty, dignity and humane treatment, those who follow Judaism or those who are enemies of Judaism?

 

[jwoodie]

Yes. There is nothing in the text which says are not still chosen. Do you understand what Jews are "chosen" for?

Do you? If so, please explain.

 

[rosends]

Do you? If so, please explain.

Jews are chosen to have the burden of additional commandments and to be the standard bearers for a particular form of monotheism.

 

[jwoodie]

G-d provided Moses with the instructions.

Jews have a higher obligation. It may not be fair but for our civilization with the assistance from non-Jews will achieve the highest of goals. When is the question, we appear to be so far away as a civilization.

Let's start with ensuring the protection and expansion of Judeo-Christian values in the West. If this is defended our civilization can thrive and the Torah will be fulfilled.

It's starts with each of us. Protect was is good, the light. Defeat what is evil, the darkness.

These concepts are universal and ubiquitous with human progress. Again, we must all do our part, history have shown what happens when good men stand down and ignore abuses of others.

Thanks, but I was asking about the Christian theological perspective. I have a lot of questions about the historical personage of Jesus, but have received very few answers. Are the Romans the only objective source of information on this subject?

P.S. Ignore Rigby.

 

[0311]

Are Jews still the "chosen people?" Most Christians believe that God in human form (Jesus) fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy of a Messiah for the Jewish people. Since most Jews rejected Jesus, didn't they also reject God himself? If so, how could they still remain His chosen people? If they are not, what is their status according to Christian theology?

No god. No Yeshua (his correct). Just weak-minded fools easily led.

 

[BreezeWood]

G-d provided Moses with the instructions.

jews wittingly chose to believe the liars moses and abraham et al for their own selfish interests proven repeatedly throughout history ... judaism's apartheid corrosion they cause for any society associated in proximity of their establishment.

or provide for their claims as proof for their allegations - stone tablets with heavenly etchings for their false commandments or a relic the heavens provided abraham to verify their sincerity as which non exist proving the veracity of those who claim judaism a heavenly consignment.

 

[jwoodie]

Jews are chosen to have the burden of additional commandments and to be the standard bearers for a particular form of monotheism.

What additional commandments? Where did they come from?

 

[Eman623]

Jews may be the chosen people, but Koreans are the "Chosŏn" people.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jews are chosen to have the burden of additional commandments and to be the standard bearers for a particular form of monotheism.

as long as they use their indentured state of servitude for their own purposes what possibly is their burden ...

 

[rosends]

What additional commandments? Where did they come from?

Jews have 613 commandments and non Jews have 7.