Armed civilians shoot more criminals than police in 2020.....good for them.

[2aguy]

The new FBI crime report is out...still trying to find a readable copy, but the reporting on it shows that armed citizens with legal guns killed more criminals than the cops did in 2020.....

Good for them....

Rapes, robberies, stabbings, beatings, mass public shootings and murders, stopped by good people with guns..

Lives saved with guns.....

The FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2020 indicates that armed private citizens killed more criminals during the commission of a felony last year than were killed by police, and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms says this data clearly underscores the continuing need for American gun ownership.

“We looked at Tables 14 and 15 in the FBI’s new report that apply to justifiable homicides by law enforcement and private citizens, respectively,” noted CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Last year, according to the data, armed citizens killed 343 criminals during the commission of a felony while police fatally shot 298 felons.

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[candycorn]

The new FBI crime report is out...still trying to find a readable copy, but the reporting on it shows that armed citizens with legal guns killed more criminals than the cops did in 2020.....

Good for them....

Rapes, robberies, stabbings, beatings, mass public shootings and murders, stopped by good people with guns..

Lives saved with guns.....

The FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2020 indicates that armed private citizens killed more criminals during the commission of a felony last year than were killed by police, and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms says this data clearly underscores the continuing need for American gun ownership.

“We looked at Tables 14 and 15 in the FBI’s new report that apply to justifiable homicides by law enforcement and private citizens, respectively,” noted CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Last year, according to the data, armed citizens killed 343 criminals during the commission of a felony while police fatally shot 298 felons.

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343... You once claimed there was something like 1.1 MILLION of these per year.

What happened?

 

[2aguy]

343... You once claimed there was something like 1.1 MILLION of these per year.

What happened?

No, dipshit, there are 1.1 million defensive uses of guns by armed civillians according to the Centers for Disease Control, 1.5 million according to the Department of Justice and 1.67 million according to the 2020 Firearms survey. Only 343 violent criminals were too stupid to realize that attacking a
Victim with a gun was a really stupid idea. The rest ran away, surrenered and were held for the policeor were shot and just wounded.

What about that is so hard for you morons to understand?

Normal people do not use their legal guns unless they are forces to use them by violent rapists, robbers and killers. Only in your and joes fantasies do normal people shoot criminals for fun.

 

[candycorn]

No, dipshit, there are 1.1 million defensive uses of guns by armed civillians according to the Centers for Disease Control, 1.5 million according to the Department of Justice and 1.67 million according to the 2020 Firearms survey. Only 343 violent criminals were too stupid to realize that attacking a
Victim with a gun was a really stupid idea. The rest ran away, surrenered and were held for the policeor were shot and just wounded.

343 deaths out of a supposed 1.67 million gun uses. You gun nuts are some pretty bad shots.

What about that is so hard for you morons to understand?

Your stats come straight out of fantasy land.

 

[Mac-7]

343 deaths out of a supposed 1.67 million gun uses. You gun nuts are some pretty bad shots.

In many cases just having the gun deters the crime

 

[candycorn]

In many cases just having the gun deters the crime

LOL...

In many cases having a fence deters crime too.

Gee, my fence stopped more crime than your gun in that case.

 

[JoeB131]

“We looked at Tables 14 and 15 in the FBI’s new report that apply to justifiable homicides by law enforcement and private citizens, respectively,” noted CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Last year, according to the data, armed citizens killed 343 criminals during the commission of a felony while police fatally shot 298 felons.

Really?

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2024 | Statista

The trend of fatal police shootings in the U.S. seems to only be increasing each year, with 1,097 civilians, 225 of whom were Black, killed by police in 2022.

www.statista.com

In 2020, there were 1,021 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 there were 999 fatal shootings.

So if you really are going to claim that of the 1021 people killed by police, only 298 were felons HOLY SHIT!!!

Of course, 20,000 Americans died of gun violence last year... and you think this is fine and normal.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Obviously, the Dems, Libs, and Snowflakes here don't give a damned about anybody, including themselves........since they think guns are bad.

They need to do a study on what percentage of Dems and their families are raped, stabbed, assaulted, and murdered compared to people that own guns for protection and use them.

 

[Mac-7]

In many cases having a fence deters crime too.

I’m not pushing to ban fences

But if you are I would not be surprised

 

[candycorn]

I’m not pushing to ban fences

But if you are I would not be surprised

And that has nothing to do with the "guns not used are still being used" nonsense when it comes to statistics. PS: I'm not trying to ban guns moron.

 

[candycorn]

Really?

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2024 | Statista

The trend of fatal police shootings in the U.S. seems to only be increasing each year, with 1,097 civilians, 225 of whom were Black, killed by police in 2022.

www.statista.com

In 2020, there were 1,021 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 there were 999 fatal shootings.

So if you really are going to claim that of the 1021 people killed by police, only 298 were felons HOLY SHIT!!!

Of course, 20,000 Americans died of gun violence last year... and you think this is fine and normal.

All true.

He also said that there are 1.67M defensive gun uses per year...but only 343 fatalities. Meaning that 1.64M times, some gun nut somewhere shot and missed.

 

[Mac-7]

And that has nothing to do with the "guns not used are still being used" nonsense when it comes to statistics. PS: I'm not trying to ban guns moron.

Liberals in general are even if you claim to be the rare exception

 

[Muhammed]

All true.

He also said that there are 1.67M defensive gun uses per year...but only 343 fatalities. Meaning that 1.64M times, some gun nut somewhere shot and missed.

No that's not what it means, you fucking moron.

 

[2aguy]

Really?

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2024 | Statista

The trend of fatal police shootings in the U.S. seems to only be increasing each year, with 1,097 civilians, 225 of whom were Black, killed by police in 2022.

www.statista.com

In 2020, there were 1,021 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 there were 999 fatal shootings.

So if you really are going to claim that of the 1021 people killed by police, only 298 were felons HOLY SHIT!!!

Of course, 20,000 Americans died of gun violence last year... and you think this is fine and normal.

not fune, not normal bur the slave rapist party that you vote for decided to make war on the police in 2015, and decided to keep releasing the known violent gun offenders doing all of the shooting. The democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep releasing the very people who have been arrested over and over again for gun felonies….no matter how often they are caught with illegal guns and even when they use those guns for crime and murder.

You vote for the political party doing that, not me.

 

[2aguy]

343 deaths out of a supposed 1.67 million gun uses. You gun nuts are some pretty bad shots.


Your stats come straight out of fantasy land.

Those stats came from 3 different studies, one from the Centers for Disease Control, one from the Departmemt of Justice and one from the 2020 Firearm survey….and there are another 15 studies that show high gun self defense as well.

And what part do you not understand? Most criminals run away from victims with funs and fo and find unarmed victims instead. The other criminals surrender, or get shot and simply wounded. That you play the dishonest games that you do just confirms that you cant be trusted with any power.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Dead miscreant = good miscreant

 

[JoeB131]

Obviously, the Dems, Libs, and Snowflakes here don't give a damned about anybody, including themselves........since they think guns are bad.

They need to do a study on what percentage of Dems and their families are raped, stabbed, assaulted, and murdered compared to people that own guns for protection and use them.

We already know the damage guns do.

43,000 deaths
70,000 injuries
400,000 crimes committed with guns
217 BILLION in economic losses.

Compared to, if you believe the OP, 343 times a civilian with a gun shot a bad guy and killed him.

The problem is that people like the tiny-dicked OP want you to really believe there are hundreds of thousands or millions of times that bad guys are shown guns and flee...

It's just laughable.

 

[JoeB131]

All true.

He also said that there are 1.67M defensive gun uses per year...but only 343 fatalities. Meaning that 1.64M times, some gun nut somewhere shot and missed.

I think that number would be 1,669,657 times they missed... and I've pointed out the ludicrousness of that at all, especially given how much the gun fetishists wank off over the thought of killing a bad guy or just some darkie who was in the wrong neighborhood.

 

[2aguy]

We already know the damage guns do.

43,000 deaths
70,000 injuries
400,000 crimes committed with guns
217 BILLION in economic losses.

Compared to, if you believe the OP, 343 times a civilian with a gun shot a bad guy and killed him.

The problem is that people like the tiny-dicked OP want you to really believe there are hundreds of thousands or millions of times that bad guys are shown guns and flee...

It's just laughable.

Joe lies...it is what he does......he doesn't want to point out that the majority of gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides....that ruins his argument. He doesn't want to point out that in 2019 there were 10,258 actual gun murders...but the victims of those murders, 70-80% were criminals, engaged in the lifestyle of criminals....



That means using the 70% rate, 3,077 gun murders of innocent people in the U.S......a country of over 330,000,000 people........car accidents in 2018 from the CDC were 39,404.....



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Of the 3,077 innocent gun murder victims in a country of over 330 million people, joe doesn't want you to know that the majority of those victims were the friends and family of criminals...caught in the crossfire of their criminal activity and revenge shootings...



That ruins his argument...........



It also ruins his argument when you look at the fact that as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 27 years, the gun crime rate went down 75%.....the gun murder rate went down 49%, and the gun crime rate went down 72%.....this means that guns do not increase gun crime, or gun murder.....which ruins his entire argument......



Also, Americans with legal guns save lives....lots of lives....according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, armed, law abiding Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders.......if you don't like their research, you can look at the Department of Justice research that shows the number of defensive gun uses at 1.5 million times a year...



1.1 million times a year guns are used to save lives from rape, robbery and murder......



That far outnumbers the innocent lives lost to criminals with illegal guns...guns they already can't buy, own or carry, but get anyway because they are criminals...



Joe lies...it is what he does......he doesn't want to point out that the majority of gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides....that ruins his argument. He doesn't want to point out that in 2019 there were 10,258 actual gun murders...but the victims of those murders, 70-80% were criminals, engaged in the lifestyle of criminals....



That means using the 70% rate, 3,077 gun murders of innocent people in the U.S......a country of over 330,000,000 people........car accidents in 2018 from the CDC were 39,404.....



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Of the 3,077 innocent gun murder victims in a country of over 330 million people, joe doesn't want you to know that the majority of those victims were the friends and family of criminals...caught in the crossfire of their criminal activity and revenge shootings...



That ruins his argument...........



It also ruins his argument when you look at the fact that as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 27 years, the gun crime rate went down 75%.....the gun murder rate went down 49%, and the gun crime rate went down 72%.....this means that guns do not increase gun crime, or gun murder.....which ruins his entire argument......



Also, Americans with legal guns save lives....lots of lives....according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, armed, law abiding Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders.......if you don't like their research, you can look at the Department of Justice research that shows the number of defensive gun uses at 1.5 million times a year...



1.1 million times a year guns are used to save lives from rape, robbery and murder......



That far outnumbers the innocent lives lost to criminals with illegal guns...guns they already can't buy, own or carry, but get anyway because they are criminals...

More research on how often Americans use their legal guns to stop criminals...

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey

 

[JoeB131]

Those stats came from 3 different studies, one from the Centers for Disease Control, one from the Departmemt of Justice and one from the 2020 Firearm survey….and there are another 15 studies that show high gun self defense as well.

And what part do you not understand? Most criminals run away from victims with funs and fo and find unarmed victims instead. The other criminals surrender, or get shot and simply wounded. That you play the dishonest games that you do just confirms that you cant be trusted with any power.

Well, if they just run away and commit a crime somewhere else, then crime wasn't actually prevented, was it? Someone WAS getting robbed that night. It's not like the criminal rethought his vocation merely because some bubba redneck waived a gun at him.

not fune, not normal bur the slave rapist party that you vote for decided to make war on the police in 2015, and decided to keep releasing the known violent gun offenders doing all of the shooting. The democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep releasing the very people who have been arrested over and over again for gun felonies….no matter how often they are caught with illegal guns and even when they use those guns for crime and murder.

You vote for the political party doing that, not me.

Uh, guy, if guns and jails got us to No Crime, we'd be there already. We lock up 2 million people. There are 300 million guns out there.

Instead, what we have is more crime than any other in industrialized nation, cops who have to drive around like they are patrolling Fallujah, and we are wondering why things are getting worse