Balancing COVID19 Deaths With Suicides Due to Unemployment

[JimBowie1958]

The suicide rate on average for the USA is 14.6/100k population, or about 48,000 suicides of 328 million people.

According to the NY Times, with each 1% increase in the unemployment rate, that is an increase of 0.12 % in suicides, or 394 more suicides for each increase in unemployment percent.

Increase Seen in U.S. Suicide Rate Since Recession (Published 2012)

The rate of suicide in the United States rose sharply during the first few years since the start of the recession, a new analysis has found.

www.nytimes.com

In the report, which appeared Sunday on the Web site of The Lancet, a medical journal, researchers found that the rate between 2008 and 2010 increased four times faster than it did in the eight years before the recession. The rate had been increasing by an average of 0.12 deaths per 100,000 people from 1999 through 2007. In 2008, the rate began increasing by an average of 0.51 deaths per 100,000 people a year. Without the increase in the rate, the total deaths from suicide each year in the United States would have been lower by about 1,500, the study said.​

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The finding was not unexpected. Suicide rates often spike during economic downturns, and recent studies of rates in Greece, Spain and Italy have found similar trends. The new study is the first to analyze the rate of change in the United States state by state, using suicide and unemployment data through 2010.​

If unemployment truly does hit 30%, we will have about 12,000 suicides. COVID19 has caused 34,641 deaths so far and we are maybe half way through it.

We have to balance COVID19 deaths with likely death by other cause as we ramp our economy back up.

 

[JoeB131]

If unemployment truly does hit 30%, we will have about 12,000 suicides. COVID19 has caused 34,641 deaths so far and we are maybe half way through it.

We have to balance COVID19 deaths with likely death by other cause as we ramp our economy back up.

We have. The thing is, without social distancing and other measures, our death rate would be closer to 200,000. And we'd probably STILL hit high unemployment because even without what the government has done, businesses and people would have still avoided each other.

 

[wamose]

On top of the suicides you can add all the depression cases, hypertension, spouse abuse,food shortages, mortgage and rent defaults, drug and alcohol abuse etc. and it becomes very evident that the human destruction that results from this lockdown and the economic degradation it causes will far surpass the ill affects of the COVID 19 virus.

 

[JoeB131]

On top of the suicides you can add all the depression cases, hypertension, spouse abuse,food shortages, mortgage and rent defaults, drug and alcohol abuse etc. and it becomes very evident that the human destruction that results from this lockdown and the economic degradation it causes will far surpass the ill affects of the COVID 19 virus.

Yes, Covid 19 has exposed all the problems of our system...

 

[Obiwan]

The suicide rate on average for the USA is 14.6/100k population, or about 48,000 suicides of 328 million people.

According to the NY Times, with each 1% increase in the unemployment rate, that is an increase of 0.12 % in suicides, or 394 more suicides for each increase in unemployment percent.

Increase Seen in U.S. Suicide Rate Since Recession (Published 2012)

The rate of suicide in the United States rose sharply during the first few years since the start of the recession, a new analysis has found.

www.nytimes.com

In the report, which appeared Sunday on the Web site of The Lancet, a medical journal, researchers found that the rate between 2008 and 2010 increased four times faster than it did in the eight years before the recession. The rate had been increasing by an average of 0.12 deaths per 100,000 people from 1999 through 2007. In 2008, the rate began increasing by an average of 0.51 deaths per 100,000 people a year. Without the increase in the rate, the total deaths from suicide each year in the United States would have been lower by about 1,500, the study said.​

​

The finding was not unexpected. Suicide rates often spike during economic downturns, and recent studies of rates in Greece, Spain and Italy have found similar trends. The new study is the first to analyze the rate of change in the United States state by state, using suicide and unemployment data through 2010.​

If unemployment truly does hit 30%, we will have about 12,000 suicides. COVID19 has caused 34,641 deaths so far and we are maybe half way through it.

We have to balance COVID19 deaths with likely death by other cause as we ramp our economy back up.

So, since the CDC counts any deaths that test positive for Covid 19 as deaths from that disease (regardless of the Actual CAUSE OF DEATH), and now PRESUMES that people that haven't been tested have it, what's to keep the CDC from counting those suicides as Covid 19 related deaths???

US coronavirus death totals compiled by CDC will now include ‘probable’ cases

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now counting “probable” cases of coronavirus among its tabulations, according to the agency’s website…

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[Likkmee]

Thanks for informing us we're now half-way through it. I need to order plane tickets to NZ, ASAP.

 

[JimBowie1958]

So, since the CDC counts any deaths that test positive for Covid 19 as deaths from that disease (regardless of the Actual CAUSE OF DEATH), and now PRESUMES that people that haven't been tested have it, what's to keep the CDC from counting those suicides as Covid 19 related deaths???

US coronavirus death totals compiled by CDC will now include ‘probable’ cases

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now counting “probable” cases of coronavirus among its tabulations, according to the agency’s website…

kfor.com

Honesty?

Wait, this is the Federali Goobermint, what am I talking about?