Bernie Sanders is beating every republican in a hypothetical match up among general voters

1. Wrong. Numbers can change, and for the general, I don't care if it says the GOP is ahead by 25, it means nothing. Hell, Carter was ahead of Regan by 10 with 6 weeks to go. Anything can happen.

2. I agree, his favorability rating is high. That is because nobody is saying much bad about him. Only Hillary tried a little, and who believes a liar? Should tell you how much people trust what she says-) Remember, NOBODY is attacking him very much.

3. Now there you go again! You turn from Sanders plans to everybody else's. When someone tells everyone their taxes are going to rise significantly to put in new stuff, now people are going to listen, don't you think? Let us count, ready-------> How many recipients GET stuff............how many peoples taxes have to go up to pay for it?

Now then, I ask you as a thinking person......................if he says he is going to pay for it by taxing corporations; how many corporations are going to publicly say, long before the election "we are blowing this popstand!" Now guess who works at those corporations-) That is correct......VOTERS-) How many of those VOTERS are going to vote themselves out of a job?

Good luck with that one!
1) Again, just because the numbers are subject to change, does not mean they mean nothing. It does give us pause about his chances going forward. They show that the American people do like Bernie.

Lets pretend these numbers showed that Bernie was losing to the GOP candidates. Would your first thought be "well that could easily change. Bernie could beat them all." No of course not.

2) Hillary is already railing against Bernie's voting record. He's still been more consistent in his political career than any other candidate in this race. Everyone already knows he describes himself as a socialist. I doubt there is anything new repubs could come up with that would stick.

3) I'll admit his Medicare for all plan is not feasible, but everything else he has put forward is obtainable and is coupled with tax plans to pay for them. If you actually looked up his platform, you would know this. Compare that to repub's plans of cutting taxes and racking up the deficit AND plans to go to full scale war with ISIS. In comparison, Bernie's plans look decent.


My good man Bill, I am not going to insult your intelligence by calling you names, or any such nonsense. I personally believe it is counter productive.

1. Never, ever said people didn't like Bernie. I have consistently stated that people do not like or trust Hillary. This is why the Bernie train is running so hot. It is not that Bernie is a political monolith, but rather Hillary is a political pariah.

2. Look at 1, then add massive attacks on his spending and economic plan that most economists say are awful. And when I say most, I am not adding or subtracting Democrat or Republican talking heads, what they say is always tainted with political activism.

3. Your point 3 is answered by a question----->when did America do well with the tax rates Bernie is suggesting? I know when it was, I just want to make sure you do, and then I will explain why it was then, along with why it can't happen now.

Also, your corporation logic is not correct, as you will see when/if we discuss the tax rates.

As far as corporations having to much influence, with that I agree. Our political systems way of financing candidates for any office needs to be overhauled. On that issue, your stance is exactly thew same as most conservative/libertarian Republicans. It is how we believe that the establishment of both party's. have ridden roughshod over regular Americans like you and I, so score one of your points for all of us!
1) I am just making the point that those numbers do not mean nothing even if they are subject to change. Him currently beating ALL of the repub candidates means a lot.

2) Only his Medicare for all plan isn't considered feasible. Of course I'm sure there would be more scrutiny for republican plans if they had more, you know, actual policy ideas? Instead all we can go on is them gutting revenue and racking up the deficit.

3) America has done well with tax rates higher than Bernie is suggesting. The tax rate on the wealthy in the 50s was 90% yet that was a time of great economic growth. It forced the wealthy to invest in the economy. Nowadays they hardly invest. Contrary to what repubs and Fox News will tell you, high taxes on the top earners do not harm the economy. The economy only does well when the middle class is thriving. Consumer spending is what drives the economy - not a strong wealthy class. Consider the Bush adminstration for a moment. Bush passed those massive tax cuts on the wealthy yet job growth under him was pathetic and the Great Recession happened anyway. How do you explain that? Today the wealthy are wealthier than ever before yet look at our economy. Wages are low and full time jobs are scarce.

Oh and the EFFECTIVE tax rates on corporations is 12%. That is the rate that matters.


Completely wrong. One must be completely tone deaf if they think that corporations are going to stay here with higher taxation rates. Unbelievable.
Corporations are already doing this you know that right?

Yes, and you think they're going to stay when you raise taxes even higher. Have you thought that through?
 

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