imawhosure
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1) Again, just because the numbers are subject to change, does not mean they mean nothing. It does give us pause about his chances going forward. They show that the American people do like Bernie.1) Yes, these numbers could easily change, but that doesn't mean they mean nothing. It shows that Bernie does a have a shot in winning a general election even if it is too early to know for sure. It also a shows how virtually everyone underestimated him. Of course, I'm guessing you would be singing a very different tune about these polls had they shown that the repubs were beating Hillary and Bernie at this point. Just admit itNational Polls Suggest That Bernie Sanders May Be More Electable Than Hillary Clinton
I love rubbing this into conservatives' faces. You people need to face facts that you underestimated him. The evil socialist is (for now) the most electable candidate in this race. Not only that, but he has the highest favorability rating than any other candidate in this race. He has raised more in donations than any republican candidate. Hillary has raised more than Bernie, but she did so with the help of super PACs. Bernie did not use those which means he has MORE INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS THAN ANY CANDIDATE IN THE RACE.
1. Polls this far out don't mean a thing, lol. I know it, you know it.
2. Know what is really happening? GOP WANTS Bernie to stay in the race, and hopefully beat Hillary, so won't attack his economic nonsense until it helps them, and not Hillary.
3. Hillary can't attack him on economics to much, without blowing her own cover, so she is in a catch 22.
Bernie is full of economic nonsense, hoping he wins the nomination would be a dream come true, and taking his economic ideas apart will be easier than taking candy from a baby. To bad Hillary can't do it, she might win the nomination instead of him, lololol!
2) Could your assumption be any dumber? You honestly think that's the reason these polls in his favor? You're full of shit and you know it. you of course conveniently ignore him having the highest favorability rating and having more money raised in donations than any GOP candidate.
His economic ideas torn apart huh? Are those supposed to better than Trump's, Rubio's, and Cruz's tax plans cutting revenue by trillions over 10 years? Trump would add to the debt by 19 trillion. Cruz would at 8 trillion over 10 years.
1. Wrong. Numbers can change, and for the general, I don't care if it says the GOP is ahead by 25, it means nothing. Hell, Carter was ahead of Regan by 10 with 6 weeks to go. Anything can happen.
2. I agree, his favorability rating is high. That is because nobody is saying much bad about him. Only Hillary tried a little, and who believes a liar? Should tell you how much people trust what she says-) Remember, NOBODY is attacking him very much.
3. Now there you go again! You turn from Sanders plans to everybody else's. When someone tells everyone their taxes are going to rise significantly to put in new stuff, now people are going to listen, don't you think? Let us count, ready-------> How many recipients GET stuff............how many peoples taxes have to go up to pay for it?
Now then, I ask you as a thinking person......................if he says he is going to pay for it by taxing corporations; how many corporations are going to publicly say, long before the election "we are blowing this popstand!" Now guess who works at those corporations-) That is correct......VOTERS-) How many of those VOTERS are going to vote themselves out of a job?
Good luck with that one!
Lets pretend these numbers showed that Bernie was losing to the GOP candidates. Would your first thought be "well that could easily change. Bernie could beat them all." No of course not.
2) Hillary is already railing against Bernie's voting record. He's still been more consistent in his political career than any other candidate in this race. Everyone already knows he describes himself as a socialist. I doubt there is anything new repubs could come up with that would stick.
3) I'll admit his Medicare for all plan is not feasible, but everything else he has put forward is obtainable and is coupled with tax plans to pay for them. If you actually looked up his platform, you would know this. Compare that to repub's plans of cutting taxes and racking up the deficit AND plans to go to full scale war with ISIS. In comparison, Bernie's plans look decent.
My good man Bill, I am not going to insult your intelligence by calling you names, or any such nonsense. I personally believe it is counter productive.
1. Never, ever said people didn't like Bernie. I have consistently stated that people do not like or trust Hillary. This is why the Bernie train is running so hot. It is not that Bernie is a political monolith, but rather Hillary is a political pariah.
2. Look at 1, then add massive attacks on his spending and economic plan that most economists say are awful. And when I say most, I am not adding or subtracting Democrat or Republican talking heads, what they say is always tainted with political activism.
3. Your point 3 is answered by a question----->when did America do well with the tax rates Bernie is suggesting? I know when it was, I just want to make sure you do, and then I will explain why it was then, along with why it can't happen now.
Also, your corporation logic is not correct, as you will see when/if we discuss the tax rates.
As far as corporations having to much influence, with that I agree. Our political systems way of financing candidates for any office needs to be overhauled. On that issue, your stance is exactly thew same as most conservative/libertarian Republicans. It is how we believe that the establishment of both party's. have ridden roughshod over regular Americans like you and I, so score one of your points for all of us!