Biden's nominee for ATF head is an anti-gun lobbyist who was at the Ruby Ridge standoff and Waco massacre

[Soupnazi630]

Apparently, the Fucktard's pick to head the ATF is an anti-gun nut who has participated in the killing of innocent Americans (and lying about the circumstances)...

Biden ATF nominee is anti-gun lobbyist who was at Waco and lied about cult shooting down helicopters | Daily Mail Online


President of the National Association for Gun Rights Dudley Brown noted concerns regarding Chipman's role as a case agent for ATF in the Branch Davidian trial while he was based at the Waco field office.

'David Chipman has been on the leading edge of ATF scandals for decades, all the way back to Waco – and now he shills for gun confiscation with Gun Control Inc.,' Brown told Fox. 'Chipman has embraced every hair-brained gun control scheme proposed, so of course Biden and Harris chose him – he'll fit right in with their corrupt administration.'

Great. It looks like we finally have someone who wants to run the agency like it should be instead of turning that over to the NRA

So you think that shooting an innocent, unarmed woman and kid (Ruby Ridge) and helping kill a bunch of innocent kids (Waco) is the route the Democrats need to go???

Chipman should have been brought up on murder charges for his role in those fiascos....

Spare me. I'm sure I've heard all your nut bag conspiracy theories as many times as you have.

How about something that isn't a "conspiracy theory"...

If the government starts murdering innocent citizens, you'll need to oil up your dildos...

You will be looking at a civil war!!!

You let me know when that happens. Occasionally a cop will kill someone just for fun, but that is not the government. It's just a rogue cop breaking the law.

And since Chapin has been involved in 2 instances where unarmed, innocent people have been killed, he's a rogue cop...

Unarmed?? How did Branch Davidians shoot and kill cops if they were "unarmed??"

They killed the kids, too...

Are you implying that the KIDS were armed, and killing cops???

Oh, and Weaver's wife and kid were unarmed at Ruby Ridge when they were shot and killed, too...

So it appears that we had rogue law enforcement that had the attitude that they could just kill everybody (even if they weren't a threat)...

Ruby Ridge, yeah. Waco? Completely justified. You don't want your kids put in harms way? Don't hunker down with your kids after killing LEO's.

The final assault on the branch Davidian compound was justified and yes gthe blame is suqarely on Korersh and his followers for not surrendering.

However the initiasl assault from the ATF was a completely unjusitified foul up which no one in the ATF was held responsible for.

 

[struth]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
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h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

 

[JoeB131]

yes they both shot at agents, during the raids...but there is zero proof the folks at Ruby Ridge were doing anything to even warrant the raid....as far as Waco, again, there were allegations of gun stuff, but in reality there was nothig illegal about their guns, or gun activity. Moreover, the children weren't being abused...that was a lie and the FBI knew it was a line:

Um, Koresh impregnated a 14 year old girl. He had sex with a 10 year old. Yes, there was child abuse going on.

As for the Nazis at Ruby Ridge, they shot a Federal Marshall.

Again, you wingnuts are fine with killing black people for things like stealing cigars or passing a fake $20, but these nasty people did some truly nasty shit AND killed Federal officers, and you guys are all like " Well, they were provoked".

 

[JoeB131]

Yes the Davidians commited suicide but that is irrelevant and does not excuse thejmidconduct of LEO which you love and approve of. You freak the fuck out when a black,violent drug addict dies in police custody. But you love and approve of the government ignoring due process and murdering its own citiens when they are right.

Uh, here's the thing.

The Davidians were a bunch of child molesting, gun running cultists who had murdered four federal agents.

Mike Brown stole some cigars.
Sandra Bland didn't use her turn signal.
The poor schlub from Sunday didn't have a tag on his car because the DMV is backed up.
Tamir Rice was playing with a toy.

Etc. Etc.

The Davidians were a bunch of sick ass pedophile cultists who didn't want to live without their fake messiah.

 

[struth]

You see this is the fictional bullshit which allows the government to get away with wrong doing.

It is not a tank it is an M88 recovery vehicle, essentially a large wrecker or tow truck for damaged/disabled tanks and other armored vehicles. They are not equipped with weapons especially flame throwers.

there is no explaining it away because it is a ludicrous and stupid lie to claim it had a flame thrower and the film shows no such thing.

How blind do you have to be to deny what the video very clearly shows?

There is no honest way to spin what happened in Waco as anything other than a horrendous and unmitigated act of mass murder on the part of the government, accompanied by a host of other lesser crimes leading up to it. Every government agent who had any part in this ought to have been charged with multiple[le murders, and put to death.

At least Janet Reno is now in Hell, where, hopefully, she will spend all eternity feeling her skin and her lungs being burned with no relief.

Stating fact
It is you who is blind. Any pre schooler can see there is no flame coming from the M88 it is simply a piece of debris reflecting light which snagged on the vehicle.

This complete and total proven horseshit of yours is why the government got away with wrong doing as it distracts from honest investigation.

The government has a lot to answer for at Waco it is true but not because of the lame FICTION that you are posting.

You are posting proven lies and allowing government apologists to avoid the real wrong doing.

Are you trying to be serious with this?

Stating proven fact.

nah...you are clearly ignoring the video

Wrong I am stating facts about the video which you are willfully lying about.

Then you bitch about the government getting away with murder at waco which it did. They get away with it because gullible saps like you fall for lame fucking lies. There was no flame thrower on that recovery vehicle that is a fucking fact and the video does NOT goddamned show one.

But as long as naive idiots rant about such stupidity no one really examines the wrong doing which was commited

I am merely viewing the video...and looking at what is clearly on the video.

I am not "bitching" about the Govt getting away with murder. The Clinton Admin really f-ed this up...that's all I have said...and the lives did not have to be lost.

That was not a "recovery" vehicle. It was a vehicle met to deliver military grade, CS gas.....FYI the use of CS gas was outlawed for the use on battle field...but Clinton still used it on Americans.

Made Infamous in FBI Waco Raid, CS Tear Gas Hovers at Legal Fringe

CS tear gas is outlawed on the battlefield. It can also be lethal, especially when used against children. Yet federal agents fired 400 football-siz

www.csmonitor.com

I
No you are watching the vidceo and being taken in like the sap you are. The video does not show what you claim and you know it.

I was incorrect about it being a recovery vehicle but it was not met to deliver anything either. It was an M728 engineer vehicle

M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It was not equipped with a flame thrower and did not shoot flame anywhere

Looks like flames to me. I never said it was shooting flames...don't believe it was...it was, as I stated there to deliver CS Gas.

It was there to deliver CS gas. The canon on it, was firing canisters of weapons grade CS gas....which was outlawed, by Clinton and the rest of the world, in 1993 for us in war....but Clinton that it was cool to use on Americans

It was not there to deliver CS they did not need it to deliver CS they had many methods of delivering CS. It was not made illegasl by Clinton it was banned in war in 1925 by the Geneva convention but it is legal for law enforcement and has always been.

The CS was delivered by grenade launchers into the building.

It does not look like flame it is nothing of the sort. You are a liar if you say otherwise

That's what it was doing...it was deliving CS gas, and also used to obviously break down walls, and stair cases, and assault the building.

Grenade launches attacked to these tanks...yes I don't think you have a clue how large these CS shells were...this was military grade CS gas...remember Clinton had signed off on using the military on the home

Assault the building and break down walls yes, deliver tear gas no.

Nope they were also used to deliver the military grade, banned CS gas into the building...it is why they rammed the walls...to get the cannons in the buildings to deliver the toxic, banned gas.

That is false.

They were not use to deliver such gas and the there is no such thing as MILITARY grade CS

well not now...since the world realized how harmful it was and banned it from use in combat in 1993...but prior to that it was used....and Clinton used it in Waco.

Wrong.

CS is CS

Nope, there are certainly different levels used in weapons...a can of mace v. massivee explosive

CS is not an explosive.

There is and never was any military grade as you claim.

Different forms of delivery but that is all

Firing a canister requires an explosion

Sure there is...as a I stated, a bullet is a bullet...but there is a difference between a 9mm and a 50 cal

There is and never was any military grade CS and none was ever released by en explosive

Sorry, LEO doesn't have military grade...that are fired out of tanks.

Tanks don't fire CS

Slide 5

Below is a picture of what the US Abrams tank uses

The armored vehicles used by the government at Waco did inject CS gas into the compound when they breached the walls.

After the first tank assault came the ferret rounds. FBI agents, riding inside M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles, began shooting 40mm ferret rounds containing CS tear gas into every available window at Mount Carmel. (CS gas gets its name from the two American scientists who invented it -- B.B. Corson and R.W. Stoughton.) The agents used Army-issue grenade launchers to fire the projectiles, each of which contained 3.7 grams of CS gas dissolved in 33 grams of the solvent methylene chloride. Over the next six hours, the FBI shot about 400 ferret rounds at Mount Carmel. About 375 of them made it inside. The second assault came at 7:30am. More ferret rounds were shot inside the building while the tanks shot in six more canisters filled with tear gas. Doyle recalled the panic inside as men, women, and children tried to find refuge from the gas. "There were no masks for the children," recalled Doyle.

Lethal Weapon

FBI's use of tear gas questioned at Branch Davidian trial.

www.austinchronicle.com

This two have been defending the violent military assault on Americans ordered by Clinton and Reno from the state...and continue to parrot the debunked propaganda the admin pushed decades ago.

It's sad really

 

[struth]

yes they both shot at agents, during the raids...but there is zero proof the folks at Ruby Ridge were doing anything to even warrant the raid....as far as Waco, again, there were allegations of gun stuff, but in reality there was nothig illegal about their guns, or gun activity. Moreover, the children weren't being abused...that was a lie and the FBI knew it was a line:

Um, Koresh impregnated a 14 year old girl. He had sex with a 10 year old. Yes, there was child abuse going on.

As for the Nazis at Ruby Ridge, they shot a Federal Marshall.

Again, you wingnuts are fine with killing black people for things like stealing cigars or passing a fake $20, but these nasty people did some truly nasty shit AND killed Federal officers, and you guys are all like " Well, they were provoked".

1) great...well i mean horrible....that doesn't excuse the complete F-up by the Clinton Admin
2) yes they did...but that doesn't excuse the fact the Govt screwed up at Ruby Ridge.

I am not sure what you are talking about..."wingnuts' - or suggesting I'm ok with killing black people for stealing cigars or passing fake money. I am certainly not ok with that. Your prejudicial comments about me though, highlight you are not capable of having and open and honest conversation on this topic, and your excusing of law enforcements misconduct, because your view that someone was a National Socialist (which he wasn't...fyi Harris and Weaver were both acquited of any murder of any Federal Agent) is troubling though

 

[JoeB131]

1) great...well i mean horrible....that doesn't excuse the complete F-up by the Clinton Admin
2) yes they did...but that doesn't excuse the fact the Govt screwed up at Ruby Ridge.

I am not sure what you are talking about..."wingnuts' - or suggesting I'm ok with killing black people for stealing cigars or passing fake money. I am certainly not ok with that. Your prejudicial comments about me though, highlight you are not capable of having and open and honest conversation on this topic, and your excusing of law enforcements misconduct, because your view that someone was a National Socialist (which he wasn't...fyi Harris and Weaver were both acquited of any murder of any Federal Agent) is troubling though

Well, next time, the FBI will go through and Double Tap the Nazi-Zombies. Always remember to double tap.

Again, I don't see you on all the George Floyd threads.... you are more upset about these Nazis and Cultists who died 30 years ago.

When you aren't excusing Racist murderers who shoot up defenseless Asian women.

 

[struth]

1) great...well i mean horrible....that doesn't excuse the complete F-up by the Clinton Admin
2) yes they did...but that doesn't excuse the fact the Govt screwed up at Ruby Ridge.

I am not sure what you are talking about..."wingnuts' - or suggesting I'm ok with killing black people for stealing cigars or passing fake money. I am certainly not ok with that. Your prejudicial comments about me though, highlight you are not capable of having and open and honest conversation on this topic, and your excusing of law enforcements misconduct, because your view that someone was a National Socialist (which he wasn't...fyi Harris and Weaver were both acquited of any murder of any Federal Agent) is troubling though

Well, next time, the FBI will go through and Double Tap the Nazi-Zombies. Always remember to double tap.

Again, I don't see you on all the George Floyd threads.... you are more upset about these Nazis and Cultists who died 30 years ago.

When you aren't excusing Racist murderers who shoot up defenseless Asian women.

Well then you weren't paying attention...I have certainly posted about GF death, and trial.

I am always concerned when Govt overreaches and when their propagandist defend them...like you are doing.

 

[Flash]

That hatefilled sonofabitch is the epitome of the filth that Joe Dufus is bringing into his administration.

 

[Soupnazi630]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
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h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

 

[struth]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes the Davidians commited suicide but that is irrelevant and does not excuse thejmidconduct of LEO which you love and approve of. You freak the fuck out when a black,violent drug addict dies in police custody. But you love and approve of the government ignoring due process and murdering its own citiens when they are right.

Uh, here's the thing.

The Davidians were a bunch of child molesting, gun running cultists who had murdered four federal agents.

Mike Brown stole some cigars.
Sandra Bland didn't use her turn signal.
The poor schlub from Sunday didn't have a tag on his car because the DMV is backed up.
Tamir Rice was playing with a toy.

Etc. Etc.

The Davidians were a bunch of sick ass pedophile cultists who didn't want to live without their fake messiah.

Wrong that is not the thing.

As always you are proven ignorant about history.

The Davideians sold guns which is perfeclty legal. They did not molest children and the claim thhey murdered agents is a lie,

Mike Brown attacked a cop and was righteously shot in self defense.

You are a racist and liar

 

[Soupnazi630]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

 

[struth]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

 

[Soupnazi630]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

It was not military grade there was never such a thing as military grade,

The military did not raid the waco compound.

 

[struth]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

It was not military grade there was never such a thing as military grade,

The military did not raid the waco compound.

Sure there was...or it wouldn't of had to of been banned for combat

Sure the military did...Clinton ordered military intervention, they worked with the DOJ, but they were a part of the raidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege#Chronology_of_events_of_April_19

 

[Soupnazi630]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

It was not military grade there was never such a thing as military grade,

The military did not raid the waco compound.

Sure there was...or it wouldn't of had to of been banned for combat

Sure the military did...Clinton ordered military intervention, they worked with the DOJ, but they were a part of the raidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege#Chronology_of_events_of_April_19

Wrong.

It was simply banned for use not because of its grade,

They did not rqid the compound

 

[struth]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

It was not military grade there was never such a thing as military grade,

The military did not raid the waco compound.

Sure there was...or it wouldn't of had to of been banned for combat

Sure the military did...Clinton ordered military intervention, they worked with the DOJ, but they were a part of the raidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege#Chronology_of_events_of_April_19

Wrong.

It was simply banned for use not because of its grade,

They did not rqid the compound

The link I provided, that has footnotes...highlights the military was part of the raid, and supplied many military grade weapons used

 

[Soupnazi630]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

It was not military grade there was never such a thing as military grade,

The military did not raid the waco compound.

Sure there was...or it wouldn't of had to of been banned for combat

Sure the military did...Clinton ordered military intervention, they worked with the DOJ, but they were a part of the raidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege#Chronology_of_events_of_April_19

Wrong.

It was simply banned for use not because of its grade,

They did not rqid the compound

The link I provided, that has footnotes...highlights the military was part of the raid, and supplied many military grade weapons used

You provided no link and the military did not raid trhe compound. A vehicle or helicopeter si not the military

 

[Faun]

A tank is a tank.

This is why a Bradley fighting vehicle is NOT called a tank. Because it isn't.
And military engineering vehicles are far from even being Bradley's

Differences Between US Military Tanks and Armored Vehicles
https://www.businessinsider.com › ... › Military & Defense

Insider › ... › Military & Defense

h
Yeah...yeah....bottom line...armored military weapons, with military grade CS gas was used. Clinton auothized the use of the military on these American citizens.

Wrong,

Once again there was no such th? ing as militaryu grade CS gas.

The military is not a vehicle

who said the military was a vehicle?

Look, you can keep denying there was weapons grade CS gas all you want...but we all know it's true...hence why the world banned it's use in combat....but Clinton and Reno still decided it was ok to use against Americans.

It was Cs and all Cs is a weapon there is and was no such thing as weapons grade as opposed to anything else.

And you said it.

I have repeatedly stated...that I didn't mean to type "weapons" grade...I meant to type, as I had been prior to that, and since.."military grade"

There was never such thing as weapons grade or military grade and you keep using the terms

Sure there was military grade...and it was banned in combat in 1993...that however didn't keep the Clinton Admin from using it on civilians, when he order the military to raid the Waco compound

It was not banned in 1993. That convention wasn't ratified until 1997.

OPCW by the Numbers

www.opcw.org

Convention Entry Into Force (EIF)
29 April 1997​