BREAKING: Federal court bans cops using tasers or causing pain unless thug is "threat to others"

[Wry Catcher]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

"Higher courts bind lower courts WITHIN their particular state or circuit. With the exception of the U.S. Supreme Court, courts of appeals and state courts do not bind courts outside the state or circuit in which they are located.

So the ruling posted by the OP does not impact LE outside of the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit.

Does not impact what of the which district?

Uhhhhh, what does it impact if it does not impact the 4th district of that jurisdiction? Is that jurisdiction of the 4th district protected by armed guards?

The decision is binding on all lower courts within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit; it is not binding on the other 10 circuit courts in the remaining districts.

 

[Stephanie]

they might end up with the flu for a couple days. have the people call that judge for help

 

[Theowl32]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

"Higher courts bind lower courts WITHIN their particular state or circuit. With the exception of the U.S. Supreme Court, courts of appeals and state courts do not bind courts outside the state or circuit in which they are located.

So the ruling posted by the OP does not impact LE outside of the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit.

Does not impact what of the which district?

Uhhhhh, what does it impact if it does not impact the 4th district of that jurisdiction? Is that jurisdiction of the 4th district protected by armed guards?

The decision is binding on all lower courts within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit; it is not binding on the other 10 circuit courts in the remaining districts.

Ty so much for clearing that up.

Wait, now I am more confused.

 

[bucs90]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

"Higher courts bind lower courts WITHIN their particular state or circuit. With the exception of the U.S. Supreme Court, courts of appeals and state courts do not bind courts outside the state or circuit in which they are located.

So the ruling posted by the OP does not impact LE outside of the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit.

Does not impact what of the which district?

Uhhhhh, what does it impact if it does not impact the 4th district of that jurisdiction? Is that jurisdiction of the 4th district protected by armed guards?

The decision is binding on all lower courts within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit; it is not binding on the other 10 circuit courts in the remaining districts.

Ty so much for clearing that up.

Wait, now I am more confused.

The 4th Circuit is basically the Supreme Court for those 5 states. If the local and state court can't decide or its appealed...it goes to the circuit court. Each circuit has several states. If the case goes above that....it's the national Supreme Court.

Local < State < Circuit < SCOTUS

 

[Gracie]

Eventually, we will evolve into returning to the wild west.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

If a person is not creating "an immediate safety risk," the court said, officers aren't allowed to shock him with a Taser.
If the cop , or anyone else is not in immediate danger, why would they need to use a weapon? To Bully?


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If the peep is resisting, force will be necessary to subdue the individual.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Seriously. That's the standard now set by federal court. Unless they are an "immediate threat"....you cannot cause them any pain in arrest. Absolutely insane.....lawyers are going to sue the nation's cities and counties into bankruptcy!

Every dirt bag is gonna cry "Ouch! That hurts!!" as soon as the cops touch them. AND in the wake of the Freddy Gray shotstorm....EVERY one of those will be taken straight to the ER to get a doctor to evaluate them.

This nation is going to have to have a serious wake up call about the realities of crime and policing.

these feral savage cops have to be reigned in

Day that when the feral humans are forcing their way into your home.

 

[Weatherman2020]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

Once again, the left side with evil.

Evil is this, little friend.

But we know, life is cheap to your kind, very...

The left are the ones screaming for bigger government while whining corporations are evil.

Corporations don't taze, shoot, imprison, kick down your door at night, take your kids away nor imprison you.
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Corporations are immoral, as are many cops, hence this ruling against their unnecessary use of force.

Another leftist freak who calls the police at every sound and bad mouths them the rest of the time.

 

[Care4all]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

Good...

Ok.

You're going to serve a warrant for grand larceny. Guy has stolen 50 cars and breaks into homes while families are on vacation.

He sees you coming. Latches himself around a pole in a corner of the building.

You have to arrest him.

However...you are now forbidden from causing him any pain. And cameras are rolling.

How you do it?

HOW was it done by cops before tasers?




cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional, is my understanding...

 

[rdean]

Thug? Is that another word for black or Hispanic.

 

[Political Junky]

Good

 

[bucs90]

Good

Good? You know how much this will make cops never pursue a fleeing thug and how much police will tell families of suicidal people to figure it out on their own because they aren't gonna risk being involved in a fight with their psycho and hurting him?

You idiots will see soon how much you are gonna miss real cops.

 

[bucs90]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

Good...

Ok.

You're going to serve a warrant for grand larceny. Guy has stolen 50 cars and breaks into homes while families are on vacation.

He sees you coming. Latches himself around a pole in a corner of the building.

You have to arrest him.

However...you are now forbidden from causing him any pain. And cameras are rolling.

How you do it?

HOW was it done by cops before tasers?




cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional, is my understanding...

They would end up fighting them. Like Eric Garner.

And people got hurt. That's why they got tasers....to make the outcry over thugs being punched would go away.

 

[bucs90]

Thug? Is that another word for black or Hispanic.

It originates from Irish and Italian immigrants. Read a book.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Another case of judges writing laws even though the constitution says they can't. "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states."

 

[Katzndogz]

This will be overturned post haste.

 

[Wry Catcher]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

"Higher courts bind lower courts WITHIN their particular state or circuit. With the exception of the U.S. Supreme Court, courts of appeals and state courts do not bind courts outside the state or circuit in which they are located.

So the ruling posted by the OP does not impact LE outside of the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit.

Does not impact what of the which district?

Uhhhhh, what does it impact if it does not impact the 4th district of that jurisdiction? Is that jurisdiction of the 4th district protected by armed guards?

The decision is binding on all lower courts within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit; it is not binding on the other 10 circuit courts in the remaining districts.

Ty so much for clearing that up.

Wait, now I am more confused.

The 4th Circuit is basically the Supreme Court for those 5 states. If the local and state court can't decide or its appealed...it goes to the circuit court. Each circuit has several states. If the case goes above that....it's the national Supreme Court.

Local < State < Circuit < SCOTUS

I think you've confused State Courts and Federal Courts. Speaking only for the system in CA, we have the Superior Court (the trail court), the Appellate Court (court of appeals), and the CA Supreme Court.

On the Federal Level CA has three district (trial) courts, Northern, Southern and Eastern. The Northern District has Court Houses located in San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose and Eureka.


The Federal level also has an appellate court, the 9th Circuit, and of course the final arbitrator the US Supreme Court in DC.

 

[Katzndogz]

Thug? Is that another word for black or Hispanic.

Thug comes from India. There was a religious sect that committed crimes almost as a form of worship. They called themselves Thugees.
It originates from Irish and Italian immigrants. Read a book.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The case hinges around the taser.

But the courts ruling was that the PAIN was unconstitutional....not the tool.

Which means....anything which causes pain will be illegal during an arrest. Guess how many fake claims of "That hurts!" we will have now?

I'm sorry you have been deprived of the use of your favorite torture device! I realize that you thought the Taser was the best thing to happen to cops since the drive-through donut shop, but you'll just have to find a new way to get your rocks off.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The Taser has always been an instrument of torture.

What about repeated blows with a nightstick or six cell Mag Light?

Those leave evidence, Tasers don't...you can blast someone ten, twenty, even fifty times! No bruises, no blood in the car, no risk of straining a shoulder swinging a nightstick, no risk of breaking a flashlight--what a great torture device!