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Even with today's slow trains New York to Boston is quicker by rail than by air. If you take into account the time to get to the airport at least an hour before your flight, the time you spend in line to be probed, the time your plane sits on the runway waiting for clearance, the actual flight time, the time waiting for a gate to clear, the time waiting for your bag that you had to check 'cause all the overhead bins were full, the long walk to the taxi pickup point, the traffic on the way into town.
Of course I didn't believe it until I had tried and timed both.
In MOST of Europe the equation works out the same, especially with the Channel Tunnel.
Plus, when's the last time anybody hijacked a train?
I've used high speed trains often in Europe. It is comfortable, efficient, and I get to see the countryside.You should leave the country sometime.
See how the rest of the world looks..you'd be amazed.
Rotterdam-Antwerpen 300 km/h, Thalys cab ride / cabinerit - YouTube
Are you saying that trains were not invented over 200 years ago? By the time they finished building all the railroads somebody had invented a better way to travel. My guess is that we will do the same thing long before anyone can build a LA to NY high speed boondoggle, but why should you care, government money is magic in your universe.
I'm saying if you rode on one, you'd know what I am talking about.
It's efficient, energy saving and clean.
Plus it's pretty fun.
When can I ride the fast train?
The first ride was in the 19th century. Now we have a new invention called aeroplanes.
You should leave the country sometime.
See how the rest of the world looks..you'd be amazed.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vm8_l5oye4]Rotterdam-Antwerpen 300 km/h, Thalys cab ride / cabinerit - YouTube[/ame]
Maybe you should get out more too Sallow! The distance from Rotterdam to Antwerp is around 50 miles. Care to guess how many miles it is from LA to SF? Here's a hint...it's more than 100....through BILLIONS of dollars of farmland.
The first ride was in the 19th century. Now we have a new invention called aeroplanes.
You should leave the country sometime.
See how the rest of the world looks..you'd be amazed.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vm8_l5oye4]Rotterdam-Antwerpen 300 km/h, Thalys cab ride / cabinerit - YouTube[/ame]
Europe works because they want it to.
No, the trains go from a "downtown to a downtown" but they're a lot more convenient and cheaper than flying and move people across empty rural areas as well as through cities.
We need to stop moving freight with trucks. Retrain truckers to work trains and save a bundle. Trains take freight to a hub and trucked from there.
The Rs will never allow trains because they're in the pocket of big oil.
Even with today's slow trains New York to Boston is quicker by rail than by air. If you take into account the time to get to the airport at least an hour before your flight, the time you spend in line to be probed, the time your plane sits on the runway waiting for clearance, the actual flight time, the time waiting for a gate to clear, the time waiting for your bag that you had to check 'cause all the overhead bins were full, the long walk to the taxi pickup point, the traffic on the way into town.
Of course I didn't believe it until I had tried and timed both.
In MOST of Europe the equation works out the same, especially with the Channel Tunnel.
Plus, when's the last time anybody hijacked a train?
It is even faster by car, but don't let facts upset your delusion that 19th century technology is the answer to the world's problems.
Plus, I am pretty sure that somebody blew up a train just a few years ago.
I've used high speed trains often in Europe. It is comfortable, efficient, and I get to see the countryside.Are you saying that trains were not invented over 200 years ago? By the time they finished building all the railroads somebody had invented a better way to travel. My guess is that we will do the same thing long before anyone can build a LA to NY high speed boondoggle, but why should you care, government money is magic in your universe.
I'm saying if you rode on one, you'd know what I am talking about.
It's efficient, energy saving and clean.
Plus it's pretty fun.
What ditch? I've always been able to see very well.I've used high speed trains often in Europe. It is comfortable, efficient, and I get to see the countryside.I'm saying if you rode on one, you'd know what I am talking about.
It's efficient, energy saving and clean.
Plus it's pretty fun.
Most of the time when we take the train your view is limited by the ditch they put them in. Very true of the Paris to London train. The Paris to Marseilles isn't too bad. Mostly though we drive. You get to actually STOP and see, taste, feel and smell the countryside.
By the time it can go from Los Angeles to San Francisco, the technology will have been replaced by the hyperloop.
You understand hyperloop is an unworkable fantasy, right? It has a few ... issues.
1. Costs underestimated by ... oh, by at least a factor of 10.
2. It's a vomit comet. Will the lateral accelerations and lack of horizon view, everyone will be hurling.
3. Capacity about one-fourth of high speed rail.
4. Doesn't go downtown to downtown, like HSR will do, hence it's not any faster.
What ditch? I've always been able to see very well.I've used high speed trains often in Europe. It is comfortable, efficient, and I get to see the countryside.
Most of the time when we take the train your view is limited by the ditch they put them in. Very true of the Paris to London train. The Paris to Marseilles isn't too bad. Mostly though we drive. You get to actually STOP and see, taste, feel and smell the countryside.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33nR1Ztttyw]The futur of high-speed rail in France (TGV) and all over the world: - YouTube[/ame]
When can I ride the fast train?
The first ride was in the 19th century. Now we have a new invention called aeroplanes.
You should leave the country sometime.
See how the rest of the world looks..you'd be amazed.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vm8_l5oye4]Rotterdam-Antwerpen 300 km/h, Thalys cab ride / cabinerit - YouTube[/ame]
See the video I posted ... no ditches. Of the ones you showed, one was through a city.What ditch? I've always been able to see very well.Most of the time when we take the train your view is limited by the ditch they put them in. Very true of the Paris to London train. The Paris to Marseilles isn't too bad. Mostly though we drive. You get to actually STOP and see, taste, feel and smell the countryside.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33nR1Ztttyw]The futur of high-speed rail in France (TGV) and all over the world: - YouTube[/ame]
The ones like these.....
There's loads more but this will give you an idea...
Me thinks you haven't spent too much time on trains in France.
Even with today's slow trains New York to Boston is quicker by rail than by air. If you take into account the time to get to the airport at least an hour before your flight, the time you spend in line to be probed, the time your plane sits on the runway waiting for clearance, the actual flight time, the time waiting for a gate to clear, the time waiting for your bag that you had to check 'cause all the overhead bins were full, the long walk to the taxi pickup point, the traffic on the way into town.
Of course I didn't believe it until I had tried and timed both.
In MOST of Europe the equation works out the same, especially with the Channel Tunnel.
Plus, when's the last time anybody hijacked a train?
I've used high speed trains often in Europe. It is comfortable, efficient, and I get to see the countryside.Are you saying that trains were not invented over 200 years ago? By the time they finished building all the railroads somebody had invented a better way to travel. My guess is that we will do the same thing long before anyone can build a LA to NY high speed boondoggle, but why should you care, government money is magic in your universe.
I'm saying if you rode on one, you'd know what I am talking about.
It's efficient, energy saving and clean.
Plus it's pretty fun.
You should leave the country sometime.
See how the rest of the world looks..you'd be amazed.
Rotterdam-Antwerpen 300 km/h, Thalys cab ride / cabinerit - YouTube
How much is a plane ticket from SF to LA?
How long incl. getting to the terminal and flying there, does it take?
How much is the train ride as of their last estimate?
How long incl. getting to the terminal and train riding there, does it take?
When will the track from SF to LA be working?
I await your responses and thank you in advance.
Await what?
Have a look at airplane routes sometime.
Airports are crowded and putting more planes in the air isn't really the answer.
And car traffic is nuts in California. I was just there.
Building more roads isn't really the answer either.
One of the most under utilized modes of transportation in the United States is something we essentially invented.
The train.
Time to get on board.
I wonder when the first bullet train that can get 500 mph will be developed. Probably the Japanese.
Maybe we should do business?
I'm a huge fan of traveling by train. I prefer it over flying or even driving. I'd love a high-speed train from SF to LA.
That said, this project is a complete failure that will go from nowhere to nowhere.
