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Um, I voted for McCain. YOu didn't. So I was the only one here doing something constructive to stop Obama.
Whether he lied to the Bishops is a matter of interpretation, but the fact was, like always, the Church saw the dollars signs first, and the moral considerations second. It's why I don't take them seriously. Give them enough money, they overlook anything.
They are free to say whatever nonsense they want, but they went along with a law that gave the president the authority to designate service levels. I mean, did they really expect the government to keep its word? Maybe they needed to have a conversation with Native Americans how that normally works out.
So, how much money does the Church make from its charities?
Probably a hell of a lot.
Come on, the Catholic Church is a big money laundering operation. That's why all the Bishops live in fuckin' mansions and drive around in limos...
You know, tell you about two funerals I went to...
My brother in law and my uncle. My brother in law worked for a parish as a handyman. Did everything right. Married to my sister for 32 years. Had two kids. Sent them to Catholic School. But basically, when he died, he got the express funeral where the Man in a Dress just read his name in the blank spot.
Then my Jerkwad uncle. Pretty much did it all wrong. Walked out on my Aunt for a Trophy wife. Not to worry, though. He gave the Church a shitload of money when he was getting near shucking off the mortal coil... So he got the Platinum Funeral. I mean, the Man in a Dress almost made you think he was a worthwhile human being. Even praised the Trophey wife.
Screw the Church. Bunch of hypocrites and always have been.
CG you may as well give it up. Joe won't tell you the truth.
Fact is he simply hates the church. maybe he had been one of those abused children or something i don't know. But it is obvious that no matter what facts he is given the church will always be wrong in his little mind.........
So, how much money does the Church make from its charities?
Probably a hell of a lot.
Come on, the Catholic Church is a big money laundering operation. That's why all the Bishops live in fuckin' mansions and drive around in limos...
Screw the Church. Bunch of hypocrites and always have been.
In other words, you don't know. You're just making shit up... again.
The Church gets 67% of its funding from government. 67%. That's considerably less than it spends.... 33% to be exact. Wanna guess where that 33% comes from? Catholics.
If it wasn't for our generosity, those people you profess to care about... they would suffer.
idiot.
Um, I voted for McCain. YOu didn't. So I was the only one here doing something constructive to stop Obama.
Whether he lied to the Bishops is a matter of interpretation, but the fact was, like always, the Church saw the dollars signs first, and the moral considerations second. It's why I don't take them seriously. Give them enough money, they overlook anything.
They are free to say whatever nonsense they want, but they went along with a law that gave the president the authority to designate service levels. I mean, did they really expect the government to keep its word? Maybe they needed to have a conversation with Native Americans how that normally works out.
So, how much money does the Church make from its charities?
Probably a hell of a lot.
Come on, the Catholic Church is a big money laundering operation. That's why all the Bishops live in fuckin' mansions and drive around in limos...
You know, tell you about two funerals I went to...
My brother in law and my uncle. My brother in law worked for a parish as a handyman. Did everything right. Married to my sister for 32 years. Had two kids. Sent them to Catholic School. But basically, when he died, he got the express funeral where the Man in a Dress just read his name in the blank spot.
Then my Jerkwad uncle. Pretty much did it all wrong. Walked out on my Aunt for a Trophy wife. Not to worry, though. He gave the Church a shitload of money when he was getting near shucking off the mortal coil... So he got the Platinum Funeral. I mean, the Man in a Dress almost made you think he was a worthwhile human being. Even praised the Trophey wife.
Screw the Church. Bunch of hypocrites and always have been.
Come on, the Catholic Church is a big money laundering operation. That's why all the Bishops live in fuckin' mansions and drive around in limos...
Bunch of hypocrites and always have been.
Probably a hell of a lot.
Come on, the Catholic Church is a big money laundering operation. That's why all the Bishops live in fuckin' mansions and drive around in limos...
Screw the Church. Bunch of hypocrites and always have been.
In other words, you don't know. You're just making shit up... again.
The Church gets 67% of its funding from government. 67%. That's considerably less than it spends.... 33% to be exact. Wanna guess where that 33% comes from? Catholics.
If it wasn't for our generosity, those people you profess to care about... they would suffer.
idiot.
Ummm, I'm not sure if you meant to say what you said here... are you saying that the Church gets 67% of its funding from government? That would seem to me that if that is the case (which it shouldn't be) that the Church really doesn't have much to complain about. If they are getting 67% of their funding from Government, they should sit down and shut up..
Did you mean the CHurch or just Church Charities here?
I'm sure the chruch is very good at extorting money from people like my asshole uncle with the promise of eternal life and ignoring past sins for money. Really doesn't make it right, or give it the right to impose it's whacky morality on people who didn't sign up for that sort of thing.
In the middle ages, they called that selling indulgences, and it was one of the major causes of the Protestant Reformation.
Ohhhh, George Will told you what to say. That clears that up.
The Bishops aren't 'squirming'. They're laying out their stance... you know... freedom of speech and all that shit. Much as you might hate that... currently, we still have the right to speak freely.
And... Your messiah lied.Again.
Um, I voted for McCain. YOu didn't. So I was the only one here doing something constructive to stop Obama.
Whether he lied to the Bishops is a matter of interpretation, but the fact was, like always, the Church saw the dollars signs first, and the moral considerations second. It's why I don't take them seriously. Give them enough money, they overlook anything.
They are free to say whatever nonsense they want, but they went along with a law that gave the president the authority to designate service levels. I mean, did they really expect the government to keep its word? Maybe they needed to have a conversation with Native Americans how that normally works out.
So, how much money does the Church make from its charities?
CG you may as well give it up. Joe won't tell you the truth.
Fact is he simply hates the church. maybe he had been one of those abused children or something i don't know. But it is obvious that no matter what facts he is given the church will always be wrong in his little mind.........
Um, I voted for McCain. YOu didn't. So I was the only one here doing something constructive to stop Obama.
Whether he lied to the Bishops is a matter of interpretation, but the fact was, like always, the Church saw the dollars signs first, and the moral considerations second. It's why I don't take them seriously. Give them enough money, they overlook anything.
They are free to say whatever nonsense they want, but they went along with a law that gave the president the authority to designate service levels. I mean, did they really expect the government to keep its word? Maybe they needed to have a conversation with Native Americans how that normally works out.
So, how much money does the Church make from its charities?
Being a non-profit business does not put one above the law.
Do you want to guess whether or not the Red Cross has to obey labor laws when it hires employees?
Catholic Charities.... I tend up lump them together, because they are a core part of our religion... hence the argument of 'religious liberty'.
Stop whining about your Uncle.... I don't give a damn about your personal experiences - other than they clearly have made you an asshole.
The following is a list of the issues raised by the Conference of Catholic Bishops on the 'birth control' mandate. It is a blog... but it is a source blog, not a media blog - it solidly represents the position of the Catholic Church.
1. The rule that created the uproar has not changed at all, but was finalized as is. Friday evening, after a day of touting meaningful changes in the mandate, HHS issued a regulation finalizing the rule first issued in August 2011, without change. So religious employers dedicated to serving people of other faiths are still not exempt as religious employers. Indeed, the rule describes them as non-exempt.
2. The rule leaves open the possibility that even exempt religious employers will be forced to cover sterilization. In its August 2011 comments, USCCB warned that the narrow religious employer exemption appeared to provide no relief from the sterilization mandateonly the contraception mandateand specifically sought clarification. (We also noted that a sterilization mandate exists in only one state, Vermont.) HHS provided no clarification, so the risk remains under the unchanged final rule.
3. The new accommodation is not a current rule, but a promise that comes due beyond the point of public accountability. Also on Friday evening, HHS issued regulations describing the intention to develop more regulations that would apply the same mandate differently to non-exempt, non-profit religious organizationsthe charities, schools, and hospitals that are still left out of the religious employer exemption. These policies will be developed over a one-year delay in enforcement, so if they turn out badly, their impact will not be felt until August 2013, well after the election.
4. Even if the promises of accommodation are fulfilled entirely, religious charities, schools, and hospitals will still be forced to violate their beliefs. If an employee of these second-class-citizen religious institutions wants coverage of contraception or sterilization, the objecting employer is still forced to pay for it as a part of the employers insurance plan. There can be no additional cost to that employee, and the coverage is not a separate policy. By process of elimination, the funds to pay for that coverage must come from the premiums of the employer and fellow employees, even those who object in conscience.
5. The accommodation does not even purport to help objecting insurers, for-profit religious employers, secular employers, or individuals. In its August 2011 comments, and many times since, USCCB identified all the stakeholders in the process whose religious freedom is threatenedall employers, insurers, and individuals, not just religious employers. Fridays actions emphasize that all insurers, including self-insurers, must provide the coverage to any employee who wants it. In turn, all individuals who pay premiums have no escape from subsidizing that coverage. And only employers that are both non-profit and religious may qualify for the accommodation.
6. Beware of claims, especially by partisans, that the bishops are partisan. The bishops and their staff read regulations before evaluating them. The bishops did not pick this fight in an election yearothers did. Bishops form their positions based on principleshere, religious liberty for all, and the life and dignity of every human personnot polls, personalities, or political parties. Bishops are duty bound to proclaim these principles, in and out of season.
USCCB Blog
So, how much money does the Church make from its charities?
Being a non-profit business does not put one above the law.
Do you want to guess whether or not the Red Cross has to obey labor laws when it hires employees?
Being a faith based charity ensure that we have 'religious liberty'. The Constitution says so.
Not having this discussion any further with you. Since you cannot refrain from personal bullshit. Got that? Good.
Now, fuck off.
the point is, Cults don't get to ignore the laws because they are cults.
David Koresh found that one out the hard way.
Meanwhile, the USCCB Lawyer tried to claim today that if he quit his job and opened a Taco Bell, he should still be allowed to deny his employees coverage if it offended his religious beliefs. So really, no leg to stand on here at all.
Why do the Amish get to ignore the law then? What makes them, among all the religions, special?
Ummm, how about, consistency? They aren't going to the government looking for big handouts like the Catholics are....
Shockingly, neither Bill Donohue or the U.S. CCB were satisfied. They retain "grave reservations" and remain convinced that Catholic organizations will end up having to pay for contraception indirectly. Their concern is somewhat odd, though. I mean, what contraception would they be paying for? Catholic doctrine proscribes it, so we can deduce that the (overwhelmingly Catholic) workforce covered by Catholic churches and non-profits wouldn't use it anyway.
Take a minute to finish laughing. Let me know when you're ready to continue.
Shockingly, neither Bill Donohue or the U.S. CCB were satisfied. They retain "grave reservations" and remain convinced that Catholic organizations will end up having to pay for contraception indirectly. Their concern is somewhat odd, though. I mean, what contraception would they be paying for? Catholic doctrine proscribes it, so we can deduce that the (overwhelmingly Catholic) workforce covered by Catholic churches and non-profits wouldn't use it anyway.
Take a minute to finish laughing. Let me know when you're ready to continue.
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It is truly awesome to see how President Obama trapped the GOP into taking ridiculously radical positions on
birth control, of all things,
something that has been a non-issue among normal Americans for decades.
Political genius.
Shockingly, neither Bill Donohue or the U.S. CCB were satisfied. They retain "grave reservations" and remain convinced that Catholic organizations will end up having to pay for contraception indirectly. Their concern is somewhat odd, though. I mean, what contraception would they be paying for? Catholic doctrine proscribes it, so we can deduce that the (overwhelmingly Catholic) workforce covered by Catholic churches and non-profits wouldn't use it anyway.
Take a minute to finish laughing. Let me know when you're ready to continue.
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thank god you're here
joey was running out of really stupid shit to say
kudos
It is truly awesome to see how President Obama trapped the GOP into taking ridiculously radical positions on
birth control, of all things,
something that has been a non-issue among normal Americans for decades.
Political genius.
Those who think about it know that it is not about Birth Control. It is about the 1st amendment. But then it's Obama so you excuse that.
