China May Be Dumping Treasuries And Causing Bond Market Crash

[OldFlame]

We would not be China's bitch if we didn't have presidents who keep adding to our debt and selling it to China, dumbass.

China is looking out for their own self interests, while we have a retard destroying our own.

You're such an old fool, a broken record, someone who has no idea how idiotic he looks spouting his bullshit when everyone knows it all just comes from a place of hatred. Your political 'opinions' are worth less than shit due to your bias and hatred.

 

[Shamrock17]

I did not say they were dumping all their US debt. Comprehension fail.

It only takes a few billion to move the market.

Like I clearly said, which your partisan filters ignored, is that China is performing a proof of concept.

Try again.

You try again. You didn't refute what I wrote about the FED's intervention if there was indeed a Chinese bond dump currently taking place. The market reacts to fear, and it would appear it's the Democrats who are actively selling panic to their lemmings, causing the sell-off.

 

[JohnDB]

Ordinarily, during times of stock market crashes, large investors move their money to US Treasury bonds in what is called a "flight to safety".

This surge in buying causes the interest rate on bonds to drop.

Supply and demand.

However, something odd is going on right now. Interest rates on bonds are rising because demand is reversing. Someone is selling off their bonds, and the demand for Treasuries is behaving counterintuitively.

This is most likely China. The selloff of bonds is happening during our evening hours, which is daytime trading hours in Asia.

When Dumb Donald raised the tariffs on China to 125%, the 10-year Treasury rate jumped from 4.1% to 4.5% within hours.

China owns a lot of our debt, so they can manipulate our interest rates very easily, and it appears they are.

I can hear MAGAs right now saying, "FAKE NEWS!...WHO CARES?...BUT MEXICANS!"

Here's why it matters.

Higher interest rates on Treasuries trickles down to higher mortgage rates, higher credit card rates, higher auto loan rates, higher rates on every type of credit.

Higher interest rates means it cost the US government more to borrow money. And Dumb Donald loves to spend and borrow other people's money.

We have $36 trillion of debt, of which Trump contributed $8 trillion. At some point, investors are going to have doubts as to our ability to pay off our debt, and then we will hit a death spiral as they demand higher and higher interest rates to compensate for that risk.

Right now, China is performing a proof of concept. God helps us all if they decide to wage a full-on bond war.

The bond market plunges as crisis brews​

​

Trump didn’t care that the stock market was crashing. Bond yields were the ‘pain point’ that finally got him to pause tariffs​

​

First the stock market crashed, now the bond market is tumbling. This could be really bad.​

​

Nope, it's Japan this time. Sorry to disappoint you.
Currently the Yen is tanking badly and they need to dump US treasuries to shore it up. (Which has somewhat of an opposite effect)

Currently Japan is "Front of the line" for negotiating several new trade deals to stop tarrifs from becoming a reality. (Manufacturing for Japan is done literally everywhere....regulations inside Japan are ridiculous for them to produce anything)

But Japan desperately needs US dollars. And needs more to stay afloat.

 

[Independent thinker]

Someone is. No maybe about that.

Someone in Asia. Since China holds more of our debt than anyone else in Asia who would want to harm us, they are the obvious culprit.

May be?

 

[TimFitz]

You try again. You didn't refute what I wrote about the FED's intervention if there was indeed a Chinese bond dump currently taking place. The market reacts to fear, and it would appear it's the Democrats who are actively selling panic to their lemmings, causing the sell-off.

Buying your own debt (with borrowed money secured by that debt) is a losing proposition.

Many companies tried that in tight times to try and get by. Most of them are on the ash heap of business history.

I don't know what bonds are doing today, but, unfortunately the stock markets have resumed their downward spiral.

 

[g5000]

You're such an old fool, a broken record, someone who has no idea how idiotic he looks spouting his bullshit when everyone knows it all just comes from a place of hatred.

Your political 'opinions' are worth less than shit due to your bias and hatred.

You really don't have anything to contribute, do you, loser.

 

[g5000]

You try again. You didn't refute what I wrote about the FED's intervention if there was indeed a Chinese bond dump currently taking place. The market reacts to fear, and it would appear it's the Democrats who are actively selling panic to their lemmings, causing the sell-off.

I did refute your previous post. You are just too stupid to see it.

You are also stupid enough to think bond investors give a shit what Republicans or Democrats think. They think only in terms of numbers and where markets are moving.

Dipshit.

In addition to the strange overnight Treasury sales most likely from China, another large part of the bond selloff is due to highly leveraged hedge funds being squeezed and having to unwind their basis swaps trades to meet their margin calls.

 

[Shamrock17]

I did refute your previous post. You are just too stupid to see it.

You are also stupid enough to think bond investors give a shit what Republicans or Democrats think. They think only in terms of numbers and where markets are moving.

Dipshit.

In addition to the strange overnight Treasury sales most likely from China, another large part of the bond selloff is due to highly leveraged hedge funds being squeezed and having to unwind their basis swaps trades to meet their margin calls.

Ah, so you're one of those who uses pejoratives, aka ad hominem fallacy as an attempt to win a debate.

I now will accept your concession.

 

[kyzr]

Ah, so you're one of those who uses pejoratives, aka ad hominem fallacy as an attempt to win a debate.
I now will accept your concession.

As usual the big picture is always bigger than the TDS crowd thinks it is.
TDS does not allow democrats to see the truth.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/janet-yellens-short-term-thinking-180036483.html

"Janet Yellen gets low marks from most financial experts for her term as Treasury Secretary. The Treasury Secretary's primary role is managing U.S. debt issuance, determining the mix of loan terms and debt structures to minimize interest costs. During the pandemic, interest rates were very low—below 1 percent in most instances—and instead of locking in those low rates for 10 or 30 years, she chose to mostly issue debt in short maturities, usually two years and under."

 

[luiza]

First the stock market crashed, now the bond market is tumbling. This could be really bad.​

​

Of course it could be . The US dollar is without value once promissory notes are ignored .

And as the US is hopelessly bankrupt, what sane person wants to be promised anything from a country that cannot deliver , once push comes to shove .

Last ditch Fed action --- before it is dissolved --- is to reduce interest rates which will bring about super inflation and finally a big fart as everything collapses .

 

[Invisibleflash]

Ordinarily, during times of stock market crashes, large investors move their money to US Treasury bonds in what is called a "flight to safety".

This surge in buying causes the interest rate on bonds to drop.

Supply and demand.

However, something odd is going on right now. Interest rates on bonds are rising because demand is reversing. Someone is selling off their bonds, and the demand for Treasuries is behaving counterintuitively.

This is most likely China. The selloff of bonds is happening during our evening hours, which is daytime trading hours in Asia.

When Dumb Donald raised the tariffs on China to 125%, the 10-year Treasury rate jumped from 4.1% to 4.5% within hours.

China owns a lot of our debt, so they can manipulate our interest rates very easily, and it appears they are.

I can hear MAGAs right now saying, "FAKE NEWS!...WHO CARES?...BUT MEXICANS!"

Here's why it matters.

Higher interest rates on Treasuries trickles down to higher mortgage rates, higher credit card rates, higher auto loan rates, higher rates on every type of credit.

Higher interest rates means it cost the US government more to borrow money. And Dumb Donald loves to spend and borrow other people's money.

We have $36 trillion of debt, of which Trump contributed $8 trillion. At some point, investors are going to have doubts as to our ability to pay off our debt, and then we will hit a death spiral as they demand higher and higher interest rates to compensate for that risk.

Right now, China is performing a proof of concept. God helps us all if they decide to wage a full-on bond war.

The bond market plunges as crisis brews​

​

Trump didn’t care that the stock market was crashing. Bond yields were the ‘pain point’ that finally got him to pause tariffs​

​

First the stock market crashed, now the bond market is tumbling. This could be really bad.​

​

They either dump em and get what they can, or the USA will cancel them and they get...

 

[OldFlame]

You really don't have anything to contribute, do you, loser.

I speak truth, something you would know nothing about, all you know is hate.

 

[g5000]

I speak truth, something you would know nothing about, all you know is hate.

 

[OldFlame]

Says one of the biggest trolls on the board..

 

[struth]

Ordinarily, during times of stock market crashes, large investors move their money to US Treasury bonds in what is called a "flight to safety".

This surge in buying causes the interest rate on bonds to drop.

Supply and demand.

However, something odd is going on right now. Interest rates on bonds are rising because demand is reversing. Someone is selling off their bonds, and the demand for Treasuries is behaving counterintuitively.

This is most likely China. The selloff of bonds is happening during our evening hours, which is daytime trading hours in Asia.

When Dumb Donald raised the tariffs on China to 125%, the 10-year Treasury rate jumped from 4.1% to 4.5% within hours.

China owns a lot of our debt, so they can manipulate our interest rates very easily, and it appears they are.

I can hear MAGAs right now saying, "FAKE NEWS!...WHO CARES?...BUT MEXICANS!"

Here's why it matters.

Higher interest rates on Treasuries trickles down to higher mortgage rates, higher credit card rates, higher auto loan rates, higher rates on every type of credit.

Higher interest rates means it cost the US government more to borrow money. And Dumb Donald loves to spend and borrow other people's money.

We have $36 trillion of debt, of which Trump contributed $8 trillion. At some point, investors are going to have doubts as to our ability to pay off our debt, and then we will hit a death spiral as they demand higher and higher interest rates to compensate for that risk.

Right now, China is performing a proof of concept. God helps us all if they decide to wage a full-on bond war.

The bond market plunges as crisis brews​

​

Trump didn’t care that the stock market was crashing. Bond yields were the ‘pain point’ that finally got him to pause tariffs​

​

First the stock market crashed, now the bond market is tumbling. This could be really bad.​

​

So what? Years of damage done by the Demafascit, literally 12 of the last 16 years, selling the nation off to the CCP, has to be fixed.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Ordinarily, during times of stock market crashes, large investors move their money to US Treasury bonds in what is called a "flight to safety".

This surge in buying causes the interest rate on bonds to drop.

Supply and demand.

However, something odd is going on right now. Interest rates on bonds are rising because demand is reversing. Someone is selling off their bonds, and the demand for Treasuries is behaving counterintuitively.

This is most likely China. The selloff of bonds is happening during our evening hours, which is daytime trading hours in Asia.

When Dumb Donald raised the tariffs on China to 125%, the 10-year Treasury rate jumped from 4.1% to 4.5% within hours.

China owns a lot of our debt, so they can manipulate our interest rates very easily, and it appears they are.

I can hear MAGAs right now saying, "FAKE NEWS!...WHO CARES?...BUT MEXICANS!"

Here's why it matters.

Higher interest rates on Treasuries trickles down to higher mortgage rates, higher credit card rates, higher auto loan rates, higher rates on every type of credit.

Higher interest rates means it cost the US government more to borrow money. And Dumb Donald loves to spend and borrow other people's money.

We have $36 trillion of debt, of which Trump contributed $8 trillion. At some point, investors are going to have doubts as to our ability to pay off our debt, and then we will hit a death spiral as they demand higher and higher interest rates to compensate for that risk.

Right now, China is performing a proof of concept. God helps us all if they decide to wage a full-on bond war.

The bond market plunges as crisis brews​

​

Trump didn’t care that the stock market was crashing. Bond yields were the ‘pain point’ that finally got him to pause tariffs​

​

First the stock market crashed, now the bond market is tumbling. This could be really bad.​

​

Do you expect maga to understand this ?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Do you expect maga to understand this ?

They're too stupid to understand; just as voting for Trump was stupid.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They're too stupid to understand; just as voting for Trump was stupid.

Are they dumb or just too stubborn to admit it ?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's the Battlefield: $2T non Pandemic deficit, $36T Debt

Everything else is off track

 

[Lesh]

Ordinarily, during times of stock market crashes, large investors move their money to US Treasury bonds in what is called a "flight to safety".

This surge in buying causes the interest rate on bonds to drop.

Supply and demand.

However, something odd is going on right now. Interest rates on bonds are rising because demand is reversing. Someone is selling off their bonds, and the demand for Treasuries is behaving counterintuitively.

This is most likely China. The selloff of bonds is happening during our evening hours, which is daytime trading hours in Asia.

When Dumb Donald raised the tariffs on China to 125%, the 10-year Treasury rate jumped from 4.1% to 4.5% within hours.

China owns a lot of our debt, so they can manipulate our interest rates very easily, and it appears they are.

I can hear MAGAs right now saying, "FAKE NEWS!...WHO CARES?...BUT MEXICANS!"

Here's why it matters.

Higher interest rates on Treasuries trickles down to higher mortgage rates, higher credit card rates, higher auto loan rates, higher rates on every type of credit.

Higher interest rates means it cost the US government more to borrow money. And Dumb Donald loves to spend and borrow other people's money.

We have $36 trillion of debt, of which Trump contributed $8 trillion. At some point, investors are going to have doubts as to our ability to pay off our debt, and then we will hit a death spiral as they demand higher and higher interest rates to compensate for that risk.

Right now, China is performing a proof of concept. God helps us all if they decide to wage a full-on bond war.

The bond market plunges as crisis brews​

​

Trump didn’t care that the stock market was crashing. Bond yields were the ‘pain point’ that finally got him to pause tariffs​

​

First the stock market crashed, now the bond market is tumbling. This could be really bad.​

​

I was wondering what happened to the bond market and yeah… that makes sense

I guess Trump missed the fact that Chinese holds a shitload of our debt when he was paying three dimensional chess huh?

The fucking dope