China May Have More Problems Than Realized.

[jackflash]

Good vid on China! It covers both the good & the bad of current day China. From military to senior citizen retirement & a lot in between like it's really an interesting vid. I really liked the army of robots they are constructing like they somewhat reminded me of the Hyper Alloy Terminator Chassis, but not as beefy & don't look like they are as tough either. They even showed a robot pooch that was kind of cute in it's own way! Modern day cities with sky scrappers & nobody living in those cities like I couldn't believe it. It sounds like the Chinese folks have had it with the communalist form of g'ment but that's covered in the vid somewhat.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Good vid on China! It covers both the good & the bad of current day China. From military to senior citizen retirement & a lot in between like it's really an interesting vid. I really liked the army of robots they are constructing like they somewhat reminded me of the Hyper Alloy Terminator Chassis, but not as beefy & don't look like they are as tough either. They even showed a robot pooch that was kind of cute in it's own way! Modern day cities with sky scrappers & nobody living in those cities like I couldn't believe it. It sounds like the Chinese folks have had it with the communalist form of g'ment but that's covered in the vid somewhat.

China has many problems. Right now it's very, very interesting because the Army and Xi are fighting it out for dominance within the CCP.

 

[jackflash]

China has many problems. Right now it's very, very interesting because the Army and Xi are fighting it out for dominance within the CCP.

fw; I'm not sure of it was Jesus of Nazareth or Tuff Tony Terminator that first stated the following quote;

"It's in your nature to destroy yourselves".

 

[otto105]

China has many problems. Right now it's very, very interesting because the Army and Xi are fighting it out for dominance within the CCP.

Ghina doesn’t care about Russia. They pose no threat to the economic interests of them.

They measure themselves against our economic standard.

 

[frigidweirdo]

fw; I'm not sure of it was Jesus of Nazareth or Tuff Tony Terminator that first stated the following quote;

"It's in your nature to destroy yourselves".

It is, I think the seeds of destruction are sown before the rise of any nation even takes place. However China has planted a hell of a lot of seeds. Like the one child policy, made no sense when implemented and now it's going to cause HUGE problems.

Xi taking charge has also created new problems too that has slowed their economic rise, and the government is running out of money.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Good vid on China! It covers both the good & the bad of current day China. From military to senior citizen retirement & a lot in between like it's really an interesting vid. I really liked the army of robots they are constructing like they somewhat reminded me of the Hyper Alloy Terminator Chassis, but not as beefy & don't look like they are as tough either. They even showed a robot pooch that was kind of cute in it's own way! Modern day cities with sky scrappers & nobody living in those cities like I couldn't believe it. It sounds like the Chinese folks have had it with the communalist form of g'ment but that's covered in the vid somewhat.

This is a key period for the West because if we operate correctly, take industries back from China, citizens may demand deep changes,.especially if Taiwan continues to thrive economically.

 

[shockedcanadian]

It is, I think the seeds of destruction are sown before the rise of any nation even takes place. However China has planted a hell of a lot of seeds. Like the one child policy, made no sense when implemented and now it's going to cause HUGE problems.

Xi taking charge has also created new problems too that has slowed their economic rise, and the government is running out of money.

Their population is going to shrink, no question. the are prepared to see as much as a 500M person. That might actually assist their system in some ways especially if they raise the retirement age which today I believe is 60.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Their population is going to shrink, no question. the are prepared to see as much as a 500M person. That might actually assist their system in some ways especially if they raise the retirement age which today I believe is 60.

They have raised the retirement age recently, not as much as they could have, but I'd expect them to raise it many times in the next few years. In 10 or 20 years they'll have so many retired people they won't be able to afford pensions or healthcare.

But they'll still be able to afford more money for the military/

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Good vid on China! It covers both the good & the bad of current day China. From military to senior citizen retirement & a lot in between like it's really an interesting vid. I really liked the army of robots they are constructing like they somewhat reminded me of the Hyper Alloy Terminator Chassis, but not as beefy & don't look like they are as tough either. They even showed a robot pooch that was kind of cute in it's own way! Modern day cities with sky scrappers & nobody living in those cities like I couldn't believe it. It sounds like the Chinese folks have had it with the communalist form of g'ment but that's covered in the vid somewhat.

China more than likely will implode one day ...be no where near it when it does

 

[shockedcanadian]

They have raised the retirement age recently, not as much as they could have, but I'd expect them to raise it many times in the next few years. In 10 or 20 years they'll have so many retired people they won't be able to afford pensions or healthcare.

But they'll still be able to afford more money for the military/

This is the reality. Thanks to so many poor policies by the West, influenced no doubt by the MSS;.the West is going to face WWIII through the very nation we foolishly funded and armed. The world should.have recognized Taiwan.in the 1970s. China icreasingly speaks openly speaks about Taiwan being part of China because we didnt have a backbone. They speak as.if it was.just another state. When they took HK back early and without warning, it was a reminder of how weak the West and UN are to not confront them.

 

[Mac1958]

Peter Zeihan is a geopolitical consultant, and he's been saying for a long time that China is in the process of imploding due to its rapidly collapsing demographics.

This would be awful for most of its people, but definitely justice for its authoritarian leaders. They're one of our two biggest adversaries, so, sorry.

Authoritarian leadership is doomed to ultimately fail.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is the reality. Thanks to so many poor policies by the West, influenced no doubt by the MSS;.the West is going to face WWIII through the very nation we foolishly funded and armed. The world should.have recognized Taiwan.in the 1970s. China icreasingly speaks openly speaks about Taiwan being part of China because we didnt have a backbone. They speak as.if it was.just another state. When they took HK back early and without warning, it was a reminder of how weak the West and UN are to not confront them.

Well, Hong Kong wasn't a "taking it back early and without warning", it was a part of China and had been for a long time. The deal the UK made was saving face at best, a way of pretending the UK cared about the people and about freedoms of democracy (which ironically only existed for the final three or four years of HK being a part of the UK).

Taiwan is a strange situation because Taiwan believes that China and Taiwan should be united also.

The biggest problem for the US and western countries is they like money more than anything else. And China wanted to get rich.

 

[there4eyeM]

The really big mistake would be (or, perhaps, is) to insist on dealing with the situation as if it were identical to the so-called cold war with the USSR.

 

[Moonglow]

The US has shifted much of its supply lines away from China, Mexico is now our biggest trade partner, not China, unless you are a MAGAT like Elon Musk, who has most of his products made in China.

 

[Mac-7]

Taiwan is a strange situation because Taiwan believes that China and Taiwan should be united also.

Thats not true

Taiwan is a pluralist democratic nation not a one-party dictatorship like communist china

There are competing political parties in Taiwan

The independence party wins every national election, and has during the past 20 years

 

[JoeB131]

This is a key period for the West because if we operate correctly, take industries back from China, citizens may demand deep changes,.especially if Taiwan continues to thrive economically.

Why should they do that? The interesting thing about Chinese industry is that they are doing what Japan did in the 1970's. They are transitioning from "the place you buy low-quality stuff cheaply" to "the place where you can buy high quality components"

The problem with "the West" is that we largely don't want to work in factories, we don't want a nasty factory setting up next to our houses and polluting stuff, We don't invest in education and infrastructure.

Then we wonder why the Chinese are eating our lunch.

This is the reality. Thanks to so many poor policies by the West, influenced no doubt by the MSS;.the West is going to face WWIII through the very nation we foolishly funded and armed. The world should.have recognized Taiwan.in the 1970s. China icreasingly speaks openly speaks about Taiwan being part of China because we didnt have a backbone. They speak as.if it was.just another state.

Up until 1979, the US recognized Taiwan as the legitimate government of China, until Jimmy Carter faced the reality that even Tricky Dick wouldn't.

China speaks about Taiwan being part of China because the population is 98% Han Chinese; they speak Mandarin, and they write in Hanzi. Oh, yeah, and except for a 50 year period when Japan owned it, Taiwan has been part of China since the Ming Dynasty.

They speak as.if it was.just another state. When they took HK back early and without warning, it was a reminder of how weak the West and UN are to not confront them.

Wow. Just wow.

China didn't "Take Hong Kong". Hong Kong was returned to China because the 99-year lease the British Empire imposed on the Qing Dynasty expired. China could have taken Hong Kong any time they wanted to after 1949. (Portugal had a similar situation with Macao, which no one talks about.)

And this is what you Sinophobes don't get. China suffered the "Century of Humiliation," starting with the Opium Wars and ending with the establishment of the People's Republic, Foreign powers would come into China and have their way with her, and they eventually got fed up.

 

[JoeB131]

Thats not true

Taiwan is a pluralist democratic nation not a one-party dictatorship like communist china

There are competing political parties in Taiwan

The independence party wins every national election, and has during the past 20 years

So this is an argument among a bunch of Chinese about what kind of government they should have.

Why is this our problem, again?

 

[JoeB131]

Peter Zeihan is a geopolitical consultant, and he's been saying for a long time that China is in the process of imploding due to its rapidly collapsing demographics.

This would be awful for most of its people, but definitely justice for its authoritarian leaders. They're one of our two biggest adversaries, so, sorry.

Authoritarian leadership is doomed to ultimately fail.

Actually, if anything is failing right now, it's democracy. All over the world, people in the west are having hissies, throwing out governments, and then being amazed when those guys can't fix the problems, either.

As for Demographics, most of the Asian countries are having this problem. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, they are all facing demographic problems that first world countries have in that a certain level, you just don't want to have kids anymore.

China did make her problems worse with the One Child Policy, but that policy has been rescinded.

 

[JoeB131]

Their population is going to shrink, no question. the are prepared to see as much as a 500M person. That might actually assist their system in some ways especially if they raise the retirement age which today I believe is 60.

Without immigration (which we are throwing a hissy about) the US has the same problem.

The thing is, China's population CAN shrink by 500 million and they'd still have a billion people to spare.

 

[Mac-7]

So this is an argument among a bunch of Chinese about what kind of government they should have.

Why is this our problem, again?

Because Taiwan is of strategic importance to world trade

The chicoms are not entitled to control the important industries located in Taiwan