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That has to be the dumbest fucking post I have ever seen.
I am amazed you were able to follow it. I just found it impossible to read.
I thought so as well....
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That has to be the dumbest fucking post I have ever seen.
I am amazed you were able to follow it. I just found it impossible to read.
Abortion isn't a religious issue. Its a human issue.
This one sentence is all that needs to be stated.
Prohibitions on terminating a life are not just religious doctrines, they are social and societal doctrines.
Killing the unborn is murder...period. You need not be religious to abhor murder.
Someone inevitably makes the argument that as abortion is presently legal, therefore it cannot be murder...but slavery was legal once.
So feel free to make the argument that slavery was ethical and virtuous when it was legal and after I'll be happy to hear your argument on the conscientiousness and moral superiority of abortion.
To the OP, please...in the future, attempt to post more coherently...I don't speak gibberish.
That has to be the dumbest fucking post I have ever seen.
Oh the irony.. On the one hand you have people that are against abortion of any kind and yet also support capital punishment.. Murder is murder be it young or old..
So lets look at this in another way?? What if mom has a medical condition that requires her to have an abortion?? Say?? Like Preclampsia.. If the child isn't removed, viable or not, the mom will die and hence so will baby?? So what do you do?? One murder or two??
See that is the problem when it comes to abortion.. While over all I think it should be avoided at all cost in the form of birth control or other contraception.. The fact remains that there are times when it is required or both mother and baby will die..
As for this being a biblical issue?? Of course it is.. Only Christians see this in such a black and white issue.. Abortion is murder so it is wrong.. So is capital punishment.. Killing a criminal serves no purpose..
Another issue to consider in the case of abortion.. And if some of you would do a little research you would know this.. Banning abortion will serve no purpose.. Women will find a way to get them anyways.. Be it a wire coat hanger or a dirty doctor in a garage.. Hence the problems of the early 70's when tens of thousands of women and unborn babies were dying annually.. Roe V. Wade was a means to an end.. It wasn't an answer.. And neither is banning abortion.. But try to get a christians to look beyond their noses and see something other than 'Thou shall not kill.'
Humanity already spoke on the issue and gave us Roe V. Wade.. Christians need to accept that and move on..
And China pays for it.. (I just put that there cause I have no idea what it means..)
Overview
Preeclampsia is high blood pressure and protein in the urine that develops after the 20th week of pregnancy.
Treatment
The only way to cure preeclampsia is to deliver the baby. However, if that delivery would be very early (premature), the disease can be managed by bed rest, close monitoring, and delivery as soon as the fetus has a good chance of surviving outside the womb. Sometimes, medicines are prescribed to lower the mother's blood pressure.
The pregnant mother is usually admitted to the hospital, but some women may be allowed to stay at home with careful monitoring of their blood pressure, urine, and weight, and the baby.
Ideally, the condition is managed until the baby can be delivered after the 37th week of pregnancy.
That has to be the dumbest fucking post I have ever seen.
Drunk post that belongs in religion?
Oh the irony.. On the one hand you have people that are against abortion of any kind and yet also support capital punishment.. Murder is murder be it young or old..
So lets look at this in another way?? What if mom has a medical condition that requires her to have an abortion?? Say?? Like Preclampsia.. If the child isn't removed, viable or not, the mom will die and hence so will baby?? So what do you do?? One murder or two??
See that is the problem when it comes to abortion.. While over all I think it should be avoided at all cost in the form of birth control or other contraception.. The fact remains that there are times when it is required or both mother and baby will die..
As for this being a biblical issue?? Of course it is.. Only Christians see this in such a black and white issue.. Abortion is murder so it is wrong.. So is capital punishment.. Killing a criminal serves no purpose..
Another issue to consider in the case of abortion.. And if some of you would do a little research you would know this.. Banning abortion will serve no purpose.. Women will find a way to get them anyways.. Be it a wire coat hanger or a dirty doctor in a garage.. Hence the problems of the early 70's when tens of thousands of women and unborn babies were dying annually.. Roe V. Wade was a means to an end.. It wasn't an answer.. And neither is banning abortion.. But try to get a christians to look beyond their noses and see something other than 'Thou shall not kill.'
Humanity already spoke on the issue and gave us Roe V. Wade.. Christians need to accept that and move on..
And China pays for it.. (I just put that there cause I have no idea what it means..)
Are you suggesting that abortion is the only way to end preeclampsia?
Overview
Preeclampsia is high blood pressure and protein in the urine that develops after the 20th week of pregnancy.
Treatment
The only way to cure preeclampsia is to deliver the baby. However, if that delivery would be very early (premature), the disease can be managed by bed rest, close monitoring, and delivery as soon as the fetus has a good chance of surviving outside the womb. Sometimes, medicines are prescribed to lower the mother's blood pressure.
The pregnant mother is usually admitted to the hospital, but some women may be allowed to stay at home with careful monitoring of their blood pressure, urine, and weight, and the baby.
Ideally, the condition is managed until the baby can be delivered after the 37th week of pregnancy.
https://health.google.com/health/ref/Preeclampsia
Abortion is murder of the innocent. Are you suggesting that is also the case for capital punishment?
Great poster, "Zoom-Boing," (??), asserts without apparent basis in law that "Abortion is Murder Of The Innocent." Reference to U. S. Public Statutes at Large is not made, at all.
Worldwide, and in the 50 states and territories, abortion is a regulated medical procedure,
Selective conscientious objection to reading comprehension, alleged and posted by so many on this thread, may in fact be the source of posted remark. Anyone would say that selective conscientious objection to reading comprehension probably explains the complete lack of understanding of the widely known drinking behavior of Jesus Christ.
"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Great Entrepreneurial Spirit of Reagan Trajectory at any rate opposed regulations(?)!"
Great poster, "Zoom-Boing," (??), asserts without apparent basis in law that "Abortion is Murder Of The Innocent." Reference to U. S. Public Statutes at Large is not made, at all.
Worldwide, and in the 50 states and territories, abortion is a regulated medical procedure,
Selective conscientious objection to reading comprehension, alleged and posted by so many on this thread, may in fact be the source of posted remark. Anyone would say that selective conscientious objection to reading comprehension probably explains the complete lack of understanding of the widely known drinking behavior of Jesus Christ.
"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Great Entrepreneurial Spirit of Reagan Trajectory at any rate opposed regulations(?)!"
Great poster, "Zoom-Boing," (??), asserts without apparent basis in law that "Abortion is Murder Of The Innocent." Reference to U. S. Public Statutes at Large is not made, at all.
Worldwide, and in the 50 states and territories, abortion is a regulated medical procedure,
Selective conscientious objection to reading comprehension, alleged and posted by so many on this thread, may in fact be the source of posted remark. Anyone would say that selective conscientious objection to reading comprehension probably explains the complete lack of understanding of the widely known drinking behavior of Jesus Christ.
"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Great Entrepreneurial Spirit of Reagan Trajectory at any rate opposed regulations(?)!"
[https://health.google.com/health/ref/Preeclampsia
Abortion is murder of the innocent. Are you suggesting that is also the case for capital punishment?
[https://health.google.com/health/ref/Preeclampsia
Abortion is murder of the innocent. Are you suggesting that is also the case for capital punishment?
But doesn't that sam Holy Roman Catholic Church consider the unbaptised condemned, under the concept of "Original Sin?" How can they then be both innocent and "unsaved" - guilty of mortal sin at the same time?
As for "capital punishment," I personally do not believe that I have the right to hire someone to commit state mandated homicide in my name. I do not believe I have either moral or ethical right to ask that of another human being. Besides, at the cost of an execution, life no parole is a more economical option.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/CostsRptFinal.pdfFINANCIAL FACTS ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY
The California death penalty system costs taxpayers $114 million per year beyond the costs of keeping convicts locked up for life.
Taxpayers have paid more than $250 million for each of the states executions. (L.A. Times, March 6, 2005)
In Kansas, the costs of capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-capital cases, including the costs of incarceration.
(Kansas Performance Audit Report, December 2003).
In Maryland, an average death penalty case resulting in a death sentence costs approximately $3 million. The eventual costs to
Maryland taxpayers for cases pursued 1978-1999 will be $186 million. Five executions have resulted. (Urban Institute 2008).
The most comprehensive study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution
over the
costs of sentencing murderers to life imprisonment. The majority of those costs occur at the trial level. (Duke University, May 1993).
Enforcing the death penalty costs Florida $51 million a year above what it would cost to punish all first-degree murderers with life in
prison without parole. Based on the 44 executions Florida had carried out since 1976, that amounts to a cost of $24 million for each
execution. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000).
In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992).
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf
Anyone notices that Zoom-boing poster, and apparently also saveliberty poster, are making no references to the federal statutes when asserting that "Abortion is murder of the innocent."
Anyone notices that federal statutes are not "Slogan Points," but that "Abortion is murder of the innocent" is clearly a slogan point.
Zoom-boing poster seems to know something of the medical practice of Nazi Dr. Mengele. Zoom-boing poster would have to explain those procedures in the manner that mascale would explain them. Clearly, civilization world-wide condemns the procedures of Nazi Dr. Mengele. That is the same civilization worldwide that regulates the medical practice of abortions.
Zoom-boing poster is better said in the same minority position as Mengele is said and is regarded. Zoom-boing poster is apparently opposed to federal funding of regulated, medical abortions.
"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Ignorance of the law has never been said an excuse, after all!)
[https://health.google.com/health/ref/Preeclampsia
Abortion is murder of the innocent. Are you suggesting that is also the case for capital punishment?
But doesn't that sam Holy Roman Catholic Church consider the unbaptised condemned, under the concept of "Original Sin?" How can they then be both innocent and "unsaved" - guilty of mortal sin at the same time?
[https://health.google.com/health/ref/Preeclampsia
Abortion is murder of the innocent. Are you suggesting that is also the case for capital punishment?
But doesn't that same Holy Roman Catholic Church consider the unbaptised condemned, under the concept of "Original Sin?" How can they then be both innocent and "unsaved" - guilty of mortal sin at the same time?
Nice deflection but I don't believe I mentioned religion.
You do not believe that a human life inside a mother is innocent? What crime have they committed?