Court invalidates Trump’s attempt to fire MERIT System Protection Board (MSPB) leader

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not at all.

I have no idea how they will vote, and neither do you.

Worries you, huh?

 

[j-mac]

Not at all.

I have no idea how they will vote, and neither do you.

Worries you, huh?

Nope, they’ll rule how ever they rule. I’ll still have to go to work tomorrow.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes, that's it exactly, and too many of use on any side do not realize the world rolls on.

 

[WorldWatcher]

TROs doesn’t mean anyone broke the law…you know that right?

What you’re calling for here is called “judicial junta”… We have a process for when a President breaks the law, it’s called impeachment…

If you want judicial junta, go live in South America.

Correct.

However, the plaintiff, as a condition of receiving the TRO has to demonstrate:

• Harm
• Standing
• and (this is the important part) a likelihood to succeed on the merits.

WW

 

[Concerned American]

I am counting on SCOTUS to settle this.

They will. I don't think you'll like the results.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They will. I don't think you'll like the results.

We will see. I am content that the right way is being followed.

 

[j-mac]

Correct.

However, the plaintiff, as a condition of receiving the TRO has to demonstrate:

• Harm
• Standing
• and (this is the important part) a likelihood to succeed on the merits.

WW

Just curious, where’d you get your law degree?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Just curious, where’d you get your law degree?

I don't have one, and I assume you don't either.

Neither does Trump.

But the Judges do.

Does it take a law degree to read the Constitution that in Article II Section 1 the President swears to faithfully execute the office and that in Article II Section 3 is requires that the President shall faithfully execute the law?

WW

 

[j-mac]

I don't have one, and I assume you don't either.

Neither does Trump.

But the Judges do.

Does it take a law degree to read the Constitution that in Article II Section 1 the President swears to faithfully execute the office and that in Article II Section 3 is requires that the President shall faithfully execute the law?

WW

Judicial power can be used, and has been used, for both good and ill. However, in a basically just democratic republic, judicial power should never be exercised lawlessly--even for desirable ends. Judges are not legislators. The legitimacy of their decisions, particularly those decisions that displace legislative judgments, depends entirely on the truth of the judicial claim that the court was authorized by law to settle the matter. When this claim is false, a judicial edict is not redeemed by its good consequences, for any such edict constitutes a usurpation of the just authority of the people to govern themselves through the constitutional procedures of deliberative democracy. Decisions in which the courts usurp the authority of the people are not merely incorrect; they are themselves unconstitutional. And they are unjust.

Judicial Usurpation and the Constitution: Historical and Contemporary Issues

Judicial power can be used, and has been used, for both good and ill. However, in a basically just democratic republic, judicial power should never be exercised lawlessly--even for desirable ends. Judges are not legislators. The legitimacy of their decisions, particularly those decisions that...

www.heritage.org

And another article for your consideration.

The Supreme Court Is Poised to Restore the President’s Executive Power

Legal challenges to Trump’s firings open the door for a shift in the Court’s jurisprudence.

www.city-journal.org

What these judges are doing is tyranny.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Everything J-Mac says above defines the MAGA position on the judiciary.

 

[Concerned American]

Everything J-Mac says above defines the MAGA position on the judiciary.

Yup, pretty much, along with a larger percentage of the electorate than the democrat degenerates.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The polls show you are wrong on that on most of the decisions.

 

[Leviticus]

The laws were broken in firing, a motion was filed for reinstatement because Trump did not have the authority to discharge her, and the judge reinstated her.

The judge was engaged in proper oversight of the executive.

That's only part true, Trump does have the authority to fire her.But have to follow a particular protocol in order to legally do so.
But trump and his retard staff are too stupid to understand this

 

[WorldWatcher]

Everything J-Mac says above defines the MAGA position on the judiciary.

Only when their guy is in office.

When their guy isn't in office there isn't an all powerful President and it's ok to run to the courts.

WW

 

[The Duke]

I've stated this before and I'm sure we'll see it again. Trump was granted everything he needs by the Supreme Court to do pretty much whatever he wants. But because he nor his attorneys can't be bothered to do things properly, this is the result.

Cathy Harris, the chairwoman of the Merit Systems Protection Board, successfully argued that her firing violated the Civil Service Reform Act.

Jared Serbu@jserbuWFED
February 18, 2025 5:57 pm

4 min read

Court invalidates Trump’s attempt to fire MSBP leader

A federal judge on Tuesday invalidated President Trump’s attempt to fire Cathy Harris, the chairwoman of the Merit Systems Protection Board, finding that her term in office is protected by a federal law meant to ensure the board’s independence from political considerations....​

A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., cleared the way for President Trump to fire members of the National Labor Relations Board and Merit Systems Protection Board after district courts had earlier blocked their removals and ordered them reinstated.​

...and it's over.
"A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., cleared the way for President Trump to fire members of the National Labor Relations Board and Merit Systems Protection Board after district courts had earlier blocked their removals and ordered them reinstated."

Appeals court clears way for Trump to fire members of labor and workforce protection boards

President Trump fired Gwynne Wilcox from the National Labor Relations Board and Cathy Harris from the Merit Systems Protection Board.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[j-mac]

Everything J-Mac says above defines the MAGA position on the judiciary.

No rebuttal? Figures. You’re not smart enough.

 

[j-mac]

That's only part true, Trump does have the authority to fire her.But have to follow a particular protocol in order to legally do so.
But trump and his retard staff are too stupid to understand this

Please tell me who’s in charge of the POTUS….

 

[j-mac]

Only when their guy is in office.

When their guy isn't in office there isn't an all powerful President and it's ok to run to the courts.

WW

Now that’s funny right there…

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

...and it's over.
"A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., cleared the way for President Trump to fire members of the National Labor Relations Board and Merit Systems Protection Board after district courts had earlier blocked their removals and ordered them reinstated."

Appeals court clears way for Trump to fire members of labor and workforce protection boards

President Trump fired Gwynne Wilcox from the National Labor Relations Board and Cathy Harris from the Merit Systems Protection Board.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't think so. Have the plaintiff's indicated that they're foregoing any further action? My understanding is that they can ask the appellate court for a ruling by the full panel (en banc) and if they refuse then they still have the option of asking SCOTUS for a writ of certiorari.

Irrespective of what the appellate court/SCOTUS decide, this ruling is just regarding the TRO, not the lawsuit itself, they're two separate parts of the legal action.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

...and it's over.
"A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., cleared the way for President Trump to fire members of the National Labor Relations Board and Merit Systems Protection Board after district courts had earlier blocked their removals and ordered them reinstated."

Appeals court clears way for Trump to fire members of labor and workforce protection boards

President Trump fired Gwynne Wilcox from the National Labor Relations Board and Cathy Harris from the Merit Systems Protection Board.

www.cbsnews.com

And that decision can be appealed.