CDZ Critically reading Trump's foreign policy speech from 27-April-2016

[Liquid Reigns]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

 

[Syriusly]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

When the Director of the FBI publicly states "we can not properly vet these refugees at this time" that probably means more than your random claims that we can.

Where did I say that we can properly vet these refugees?

I was pointing out that Trump's public statement was either lies or ignorant.

Once again- what the FBI said does not contradict the falsity of what Trump claimed:
We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing.

We do have an idea- we just can't verify for all immigrants where they are coming from. There is documentation. There is paperwork. Whether it is adequate or not is another question- but Trump's statements were false.

Didn't you just claim:

Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.​

Take a year before being admitted? Is that why there are already some that have been admitted, long before that year was ever up? No Christians: All 132 Syrian Refugees Admitted to U.S. Since Paris Attacks Are Sunni Muslims

 

[Liquid Reigns]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

 

[Syriusly]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

When the Director of the FBI publicly states "we can not properly vet these refugees at this time" that probably means more than your random claims that we can.

Where did I say that we can properly vet these refugees?

I was pointing out that Trump's public statement was either lies or ignorant.

Once again- what the FBI said does not contradict the falsity of what Trump claimed:
We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing.

We do have an idea- we just can't verify for all immigrants where they are coming from. There is documentation. There is paperwork. Whether it is adequate or not is another question- but Trump's statements were false.

Didn't you just claim:

Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.​

Take a year before being admitted? Is that why there are already some that have been admitted, long before that year was ever up? No Christians: All 132 Syrian Refugees Admitted to U.S. Since Paris Attacks Are Sunni Muslims

Where does that article say that the refugees took less than a year to be processed before coming to the United States?

A State Department factsheet issued last Wednesday stated that Syrian refugees admitted to the U.S. since the beginning of FY2011 were allowed to do so “only after the most extensive level of security screening of any category of traveler to the United States. None have been arrested or removed on terrorism charges.”

 

[Syriusly]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

 

[Syriusly]

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

Why would you expect me to defend what another poster wrote?

The point is Trump was right, we are NOT adequately screening these refugees , as confirmed by the Director of the FBI

 

[Syriusly]

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

Why would you expect me to defend what another poster wrote?

The point is Trump was right, we are NOT adequately screening these refugees , as confirmed by the Director of the FBI

The point is that Trump didn't say we are not adequately screening refugees. He didn't mention refugees. He said we have 'no idea where', 'there's no paperwork' 'there's nothing'- all false statements.

Was he lying- or just displaying his ignorance?

 

[GaryDog]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I think the dude is just like someone with mild gas, letting seepage fill the room involuntarily.

He speaks, like we fart. That's what I'm trying to say.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

I have to believe it is you that is ignorant since Trump was talking about the Syrian Refugees that are being allowed to come here, to which there is no way to verify them?

Senior Obama officials have warned of challenges in screening refugees from Syria

Several high-level administration officials have warned in recent months just how challenging this can be. While they say U.S. security measures are much better than in the past, vetting Syrian refugees poses a quandary: How do you screen people from a war-torn country that has few criminal and terrorist databases to check?
....
“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State. He added that the government has “a pretty aggressive program” for screening refugees but that he is less confident about European nations.

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”​

Yep, it doesn't appear to be Trump who is ignorant or lying.

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

LMFAO His statements weren't false, you're, very poorly, looking for anything you can to exclaim ignorance on something that you seem to know very little about. :yawn:

 

[Liquid Reigns]

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

Why would you expect me to defend what another poster wrote?

The point is Trump was right, we are NOT adequately screening these refugees , as confirmed by the Director of the FBI

The point is that Trump didn't say we are not adequately screening refugees. He didn't mention refugees. He said we have 'no idea where', 'there's no paperwork' 'there's nothing'- all false statements.

Was he lying- or just displaying his ignorance?

He's not lying nor displaying ignorance, the only one doing such is you, but when you attempt to take things out of context, that is what you do. Anybody that has followed politics knows exactly what Trump was talking about and about whom he was talking. Why must you lie and display such ignorance? Is it ideological stupidity? Or do you just dislike Trump?

 

[Syriusly]

Trump doesn't mention Syrian refugees- nor can his reference be regarding Syrian refugees.

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Not one mention of 'refugees'- or 'Syrians'- and since not one of the cases of terrorism within the United States was by a Syrian national- refugee or immigrant- either Trump was not referring to Syrian refugees- or he is once again lying or ignorant.

Finally- when it does come to the issue of actual Syrian refugees- whom Trump doesn't mention. And Trump says 'there's no paperwork. There's nothing'- not even your quote supports that claim. Syrian refugees will take at least a year to process before being admitted, and require lots of paperwork.

Infographic: The Screening Process for Refugee Entry into the United States

The reality is that refugees- and immigrants do have documentation- do have paperwork. Unlike many tourists which come here with nothing more than a passport.

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

LMFAO His statements weren't false, you're, very poorly, looking for anything you can to exclaim ignorance on something that you seem to know very little about. :yawn:

Prove me wrong- Here are the four statements of his which are flat out false:
We have no idea where these people are coming from.
There’s no documentation.
There’s no paperwork.
There’s nothing.

 

[Syriusly]

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

Why would you expect me to defend what another poster wrote?

The point is Trump was right, we are NOT adequately screening these refugees , as confirmed by the Director of the FBI

The point is that Trump didn't say we are not adequately screening refugees. He didn't mention refugees. He said we have 'no idea where', 'there's no paperwork' 'there's nothing'- all false statements.

Was he lying- or just displaying his ignorance?

He's not lying nor displaying ignorance, the only one doing such is you, but when you attempt to take things out of context, that is what you do. Anybody that has followed politics knows exactly what Trump was talking about and about whom he was talking. Why must you lie and display such ignorance? Is it ideological stupidity? Or do you just dislike Trump?

What did I take out of context?
Why do you presume you know that Trump was saying something other than what he actually said?

This is the clean debate zone- and a) you aren't supposed to attack other posters and b) I haven't lied once.

Trump doesn't want his words closely examined. And this is a good example of why.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

LMFAO, really, this is your response? The beginning of the paragraph talks about "the struggle against radical Islam". SMFH

The problem is Syrian Refugees have no way to be vetted as described by Comey and Clapper.

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

LMFAO His statements weren't false, you're, very poorly, looking for anything you can to exclaim ignorance on something that you seem to know very little about. :yawn:

Prove me wrong- Here are the four statements of his which are flat out false:
We have no idea where these people are coming from.
There’s no documentation.
There’s no paperwork.
There’s nothing.

Those are four sentences of a complete paragraph, they are not statements. SMFH

You have been proven wrong and shown to be wrong, even by Clapper and Comey, both of the Obama Administration.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

knowing specifically about the Boston Bombers =/= knowing about ALL refugees.

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

Why would you expect me to defend what another poster wrote?

The point is Trump was right, we are NOT adequately screening these refugees , as confirmed by the Director of the FBI

The point is that Trump didn't say we are not adequately screening refugees. He didn't mention refugees. He said we have 'no idea where', 'there's no paperwork' 'there's nothing'- all false statements.

Was he lying- or just displaying his ignorance?

He's not lying nor displaying ignorance, the only one doing such is you, but when you attempt to take things out of context, that is what you do. Anybody that has followed politics knows exactly what Trump was talking about and about whom he was talking. Why must you lie and display such ignorance? Is it ideological stupidity? Or do you just dislike Trump?

What did I take out of context?
Why do you presume you know that Trump was saying something other than what he actually said?

This is the clean debate zone- and a) you aren't supposed to attack other posters and b) I haven't lied once.

Trump doesn't want his words closely examined. And this is a good example of why.

His words aren't being closely examined by you, they are being taken out of context by you because you have issues with him, its your way of trying to attack him on something you are failing to comprehend that not even the media is doing.

 

[320 Years of History]

This statement of his:

We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

Is Trump a) Ignorant or b) Lying?

There is documentation on every legal immigrant. There is paperwork on every legal immigrant. And remember- every act of terrorism in the United States has happened by either a U.S. citizen, or a person legally permitted to be in the United States.

So- Trump- lying- or ignorant?

I think the dude is just like someone with mild gas, letting seepage fill the room involuntarily.

He speaks, like we fart. That's what I'm trying to say.

ROTFL!!!

At least there's a good reason for flatulence, and though we find its occurrence feckless and fulsome, we can't legitimately hold the occasional "outburst" against one. There's not any similar reason for acquiescing to Trump's oft expressed irrationality that panders to ignoramuses who won't bother to determine the objective verity of his remarks, who won't bother to critically consider them, so as to devolve the race for President from (a) that in which sagacious individuals vie on merit for public approbation to (b) the basest form of popularity contest.

 

[Syriusly]

'Struggle against radical Islam"?

Not Syrian refugees- as pointed out- he doesn't mention Syrian refugees- and he is talking about 'recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism'- of which there are no Syrian refugees.

Trump's statement was false- the only question is whether he is ignorant- or was lying.

Do you even understand what is causing the Syrian Refugee situation? If it's not Radical Islam, what is it? SMFH

His statements were false? The Boston Marathon Bombers just made his statement true.

Sigh. Yes- once again his statements were false. I have put the false statements in red. Not one of yours posts has contradicted the facts. Which is that

The struggle against radical Islam also takes place in our homeland. There are scores of recent migrants inside our borders charged with terrorism. For every case known to the public, there are dozens and dozens more. We must stop importing extremism through senseless immigration policies. We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

And we know where the Boston Marathon bombers came from. There was documentation. There was paperwork. There wasn't 'nothing'.

I am addressing what Trump actually said- rather than speculation as to what he might or might not have been talking about.

LMFAO His statements weren't false, you're, very poorly, looking for anything you can to exclaim ignorance on something that you seem to know very little about. :yawn:

Prove me wrong- Here are the four statements of his which are flat out false:
We have no idea where these people are coming from.
There’s no documentation.
There’s no paperwork.
There’s nothing.

Those are four sentences of a complete paragraph, they are not statements. SMFH

You have been proven wrong and shown to be wrong, even by Clapper and Comey, both of the Obama Administration.

I think you have a different definition of 'shown to be wrong' since so far all you have done is point out that I have correctly pointed these specific false statements by Trump

We have no idea where these people are coming from.
There’s no documentation.
There’s no paperwork.
There’s nothing

 

[Syriusly]

I wish you would address what I actually say- and stay on topic.

Here is Donald's claim:

We have no idea where these people are coming from. There’s no documentation. There’s no paperwork. There’s nothing. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant.

The other poster raised the Boston Bombers as examples to support Trump's statement- but as I pointed out they contradict him also.

Why would you expect me to defend what another poster wrote?

The point is Trump was right, we are NOT adequately screening these refugees , as confirmed by the Director of the FBI

The point is that Trump didn't say we are not adequately screening refugees. He didn't mention refugees. He said we have 'no idea where', 'there's no paperwork' 'there's nothing'- all false statements.

Was he lying- or just displaying his ignorance?

He's not lying nor displaying ignorance, the only one doing such is you, but when you attempt to take things out of context, that is what you do. Anybody that has followed politics knows exactly what Trump was talking about and about whom he was talking. Why must you lie and display such ignorance? Is it ideological stupidity? Or do you just dislike Trump?

What did I take out of context?
Why do you presume you know that Trump was saying something other than what he actually said?

This is the clean debate zone- and a) you aren't supposed to attack other posters and b) I haven't lied once.

Trump doesn't want his words closely examined. And this is a good example of why.

His words aren't being closely examined by you, they are being taken out of context by you because you have issues with him, its your way of trying to attack him on something you are failing to comprehend that not even the media is doing.

You still haven't been able to show how I have taken anything out of context.

Trump probably was being his usual bombastic hyperbolic self- but what he said was false

We have no idea where these people are coming from.
There’s no documentation.
There’s no paperwork.
There’s nothing