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Debbie Wasserman Schultz Has a Change of Heart, But Too Little, Too Late

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Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.

Low-income workers living from paycheck to paycheck, especially women and minorities, are the payday lenders’ prime targets — easy pickings because they’re often desperate. Twelve million Americans reportedly borrow nearly $50 billion a year through payday loans, at rates that can soar above 300 percent, sometimes even beyond 500 percent. Bethany McLean at The Atlantic recently reported that the government’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) studied millions of payday loans and found that “67 percent went to borrowers with seven or more transactions a year and that a majority of those borrowers paid more in fees than the amount of their initial loan.”

Yet when the CFPB was drawing up new rules to make it harder for payday predators to feast on the poor, Rep. Wasserman Schultz co-sponsored a bill to delay those new rules by two years. How, you ask, could the head of the party’s national committee embrace such an appalling exploitation of working people?

Just follow the money. Last year, the payday loan industry spent $3.5 million lobbying; and as we wrote two weeks ago, in Wasserman Schultz’s home state, since 2009, payday lenders have bought protection from Democrats and Republicans alike by contributing $2.5 million or so to candidates from both parties, including her. That’s how “Representative” Wasserman Schultz, among others, wound up representing the predators instead of the poor.

That position became a major issue in her campaign for reelection to the House this year — she has a primary opponent for the first time since she entered Congress — and was even threatening the prospect of her continuing as DNC chair and presiding over the Democratic National Convention next month in Philadelphia. More than 40,000 have signed a petition calling for her removal from that post.

She had become a symbol of the failure of Democratic elites to understand that there is an uprising in the land. Millions of Americans are rebelling against the leadership of both parties. They are fed up with inside-the-Beltway politicians who pay only lip service to the deep needs of everyday people and the country; fed up with incumbents who ask for their votes, are given them in good faith, and then return to Washington to do the bidding of the donor class and its lobbyists.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz Has a Change of Heart, But Too Little, Too Late

This is what the Democrats fail to grasp. It's two pages but I'm sure people will find it doable.

This woman has not been liked since before 2008. Bernie Sanders did not make this woman out to be public enemy number one as the nitwits at places like Politico would have you believe. She was not liked within the Democrat Party for multiple reasons.
 
Debbie Wasserman.....proof that The Creature from the Black Lagoon and Man Bear Pig had an affair in the early 60's
 
You could nail her for legit reasons. It irritates the hell out of me when there is this notion this individual has been well received at any time.
 
Debbie has a heart? I thought she was a human/plastic doll with nothing but a hole in her head
 
"attack on the poor" lmao
Self responsibility is a thing of the past.
 
I think of her as the Democrats' version of Sean Hannity: Simplistic, transparent, a little ham-handed.
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Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

Learn the law fool.

A contract isn't valid simply because both sides agreed to it, IF any of the provisions of said contract are illegal the contract is invalid.

For example. If you sign a contract with someone to be their slave, that contract isn't valid because slavery is illegal.

Now that was an extreme example, but for a reason.

Therefor , usury laws apply, no matter what a contract says.
 
Learn the law fool.
LOL.. did I offend you? Would you like a napkin to wipe that foam from your mouth?

A contract isn't valid simply because both sides agreed to it, IF any of the provisions of said contract are illegal the contract is invalid.
Apparently you don't feel that adults are capable of conducting there own affairs, what needs to be "legalized" if no fraud is being committed in a lending agreement between two adults of their own free will? It seems some folks won't be happy until these "PayDay Loan" companies are either driven out of business or put into a position where taking on these high risk loans is no longer profitable and they look for greener pastures to put their money to work in; which leaves what option for the borrowers? Street lenders aka "bone-breaker loan sharks"?

For example. If you sign a contract with someone to be their slave, that contract isn't valid because slavery is illegal.
WTF does slavery have to do with a high risk borrower wanting to borrow money from a lender that demands just compensation for the default risk he is taking on? If the borrower doesn't like the terms then the borrower has the option NOT TO SIGN THE CONTRACT, if the contract is fraudulent then the borrower is under no legal (or moral) obligation to honor it, so what other "regulations" are needed?

Now that was an extreme example, but for a reason.
Yeah the "reason" is that you can't name anything that actually applies to the case in question.

Therefor , usury laws apply, no matter what a contract says.
Yeah and usury laws (which are idiotic in the extreme to begin with) are already on the books, so what the fuck do you need more laws for? This is just another case of a "pull on the heart strings" issue that politicians love so much because they can use it to buy votes at somebody elses expense doing something that they should NEVER being doing in the first place, specifically trying to protect adults from themselves using coercion.

:popcorn:
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

You're dealing with a level of poverty and the cost of the loan is exuberant. APR at 640% on a 10 day loan for some places.

PayDay lenders profit off of poverty. Exactly like Rent-a Centers, some used car dealers, etc. and so on. We call them poverty pimps. These clowns also like to target military.

Like so:
AVB: Race Peddling Poverty Pimps.

I don't expect you to get this if you are on the Right; however, if you are a liberal then you are already familiar with the background and language.
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

You're dealing with a level of poverty and the cost of the loan is exuberant. APR at 640% on a 10 day loan for some places.

PayDay lenders profit off of poverty. Exactly like Rent-a Centers, some used car dealers, etc. and so on. We call them poverty pimps. These clowns also like to target military.

Like so:
AVB: Race Peddling Poverty Pimps.

I don't expect you to get this if you are on the Right; however, if you are a liberal then you are already familiar with the background and language.


Why wouldn't the right get it?
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

You're dealing with a level of poverty and the cost of the loan is exuberant. APR at 640% on a 10 day loan for some places.

PayDay lenders profit off of poverty. Exactly like Rent-a Centers, some used car dealers, etc. and so on. We call them poverty pimps. These clowns also like to target military.

Like so:
AVB: Race Peddling Poverty Pimps.

I don't expect you to get this if you are on the Right; however, if you are a liberal then you are already familiar with the background and language.


Why wouldn't the right get it?

You have to recognize it is a problem and most of them don't. It's part of that whole division thangy in the Democratic party and between Democrats and liberals.
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

You're dealing with a level of poverty and the cost of the loan is exuberant. APR at 640% on a 10 day loan for some places.

PayDay lenders profit off of poverty. Exactly like Rent-a Centers, some used car dealers, etc. and so on. We call them poverty pimps. These clowns also like to target military.

Like so:
AVB: Race Peddling Poverty Pimps.

I don't expect you to get this if you are on the Right; however, if you are a liberal then you are already familiar with the background and language.


Why wouldn't the right get it?

You have to recognize it is a problem and most of them don't. It's part of that whole division thangy in the Democratic party and between Democrats and liberals.

the problem is not Right/Left.

The problem is Elites/working class.
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

You're dealing with a level of poverty and the cost of the loan is exuberant. APR at 640% on a 10 day loan for some places.

PayDay lenders profit off of poverty. Exactly like Rent-a Centers, some used car dealers, etc. and so on. We call them poverty pimps. These clowns also like to target military.

Like so:
AVB: Race Peddling Poverty Pimps.

I don't expect you to get this if you are on the Right; however, if you are a liberal then you are already familiar with the background and language.


Why wouldn't the right get it?

You have to recognize it is a problem and most of them don't. It's part of that whole division thangy in the Democratic party and between Democrats and liberals.

the problem is not Right/Left.

The problem is Elites/working class.

I agree 100%.

But, what I refuse to swallow is a bunch of nitwits that beg for unity and bat their eyes and pretend that Wasserman Schultz, who is all about pay to play, got nailed unfairly and then spend the next five months while she points fingers at the Republicans. The Democrats need to get this. They chose hedge funds over people. They chose insurance over people. They refused to listen and are still refusing to listen.
 
Return with us now to the saga of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the soul of the Democratic Party.

First, a quick recap: Rep. Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), chair of the Democratic National Committee, also has been an advocate for the payday loan industry. The website Think Progress even described her as the “top Democratic ally” of “predatory payday lenders.” You know — the bottom-feeding bloodsuckers of the working poor. Yes, them.
What's a "predatory lender" ?

Some Joe Blow needs money so he goes to "PayDay Lender" X, X agrees to loan Joe Blow money at Y interest rate + some loan origination "fees" under terms that specify what other fees may apply (late fees, bounced check fees, etc..,) , Joe Blow agrees to the terms and receives his money. The only way this becomes less than kosher is if "PayDay Lender" X doesn't live up to the terms or uses deception in the contract which amounts to fraud and thus removes Joe Blow's obligation to honor said contract. Otherwise this is just a voluntary exchange that doesn't require government intervention in the first place. So what is it the miscreants want to do with respect to legislation in this industry since last time I checked fraud was already illegal in all 50 states and at the federal level?

The REAL problem here that nobody seems to be addressing is why it is that these people need to utilize the services of "PayDay Lenders" in the first place, might it have something to do with cost of living increases brought about by rampant monetization of government debt and stagnating wages due to government fiscal policy?

I realize that most people don't like these "PayDay Loan" Companies but they wouldn't exist if they weren't providing a service that people wanted at a price they're willing to pay for their services, adding more layers of bureaucratic regulation isn't going to help anybody except the bureaucrats and politicians.

You're dealing with a level of poverty and the cost of the loan is exuberant. APR at 640% on a 10 day loan for some places.
That's not untrue, HOWEVER they are servicing a market want/need and the prices they charge are based on the risk that they take for these loans, if they don't charge those prices then they have no reason to be in that business and will put their money to work elsewhere leaving the borrowers no other place to go except street lenders (ya know bone-breaker loan sharks). Just stop and think for a moment; what recourse do these lenders have if there borrowers default? They're servicing low-income people with poor (or non-existent) credit histories, if the borrower defaults, well it's awful hard to get blood from a stone. It's also true that they're not holding guns to anybody's heads forcing them to borrower money under these terms; it's "Hey YOU want to borrower X amount of money, here are my terms, take them or leave them".

Politicians are trying to play on hear strings here so they can:

a.) show how "sympathetic" to the poor they are (whom they actually don't really give a fuck about)
b.) threaten the industry with (more) onerous regulation so they can extort money from them (i.e. lobbying and campaign donations), THIS is what they really care about.

I don't expect you to get this if you are on the Right; however,
Spare me the left/right nonsense, you can't make an argument based on reason so you are attempting to appeal to emotion and for the record I'm not "on the Right", never have been, I'm just looking at the facts here sans all the emotion based propaganda spun by the professional liars commonly known as politicians.

If you really cared about the poor you'd be asking why the federal reserve is allowed to rob them each and every day via the distribution effects of inflation (which actually does transfer wealth from the poor up the economic ladder) and why under current fiscal policy wages for the working poor are so stagnant.
 

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