Democrats call Americans "deplorable" & illegals "Dreamers"...that's all you need to know about Dems

[basquebromance]

build the wall, deport them all!

 

[Pogo]

Democrats call Americans "deplorable" & illegals "Dreamers"...that's all you need to know about Dems

OP morphs a single person into an entire poitical party en masse, then morphs her subject from half of Rump's supporters into the entire country, then morphs natural-born Americans into "illegals", manages to get all of those fallacies into a single thread title, and that's all you need to know about the OP.

/thread

 

[Siete]

everyone except RW fanatics call RW's HISTORY-DONE-FINISHED-GONE.

you suck.

THE END

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you don't think the kind of people that were called 'deplorable' are deplorable, then you don't belong here.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I refuse to call them "dreamers." If Trump caves on this, he's making the mistake Reagan made.

 

[Siete]

I refuse to call them "dreamers." If Trump caves on this, he's making the mistake Reagan made.

you can file deporting 800,000 people in the same drawer with repeal/replace ... just leave room for a big beautiful wall all along our southern border

 

[Correll]

build the wall, deport them all!

The Illegals or the Democrats?

 

[Correll]

Democrats call Americans "deplorable" & illegals "Dreamers"...that's all you need to know about Dems

OP morphs a single person into an entire poitical party en masse, then morphs her subject from half of Rump's supporters into the entire country, then morphs natural-born Americans into "illegals", manages to get all of those fallacies into a single thread title, and that's all you need to know about the OP.

/thread

1. That person was your leader. Own her.

2. She smeared half the nation with that lie. The half that is more Traditional America than her half.

3. I think the OP was calling to deport the illegals.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

OP morphs a single person into an entire poitical party en masse, then morphs her subject from half of Rump's supporters into the entire country, then morphs natural-born Americans into "illegals", manages to get all of those fallacies into a single thread title, and that's all you need to know about the OP.

Which natural-born Americans do you think anyone is calling “illegals”? Who do you claim are being called “illegals” who are not, in fact, in this country illegally?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

If you don't think the kind of people that were called 'deplorable' are deplorable, then you don't belong here.

As the term was first famously used, it referred pretty much to all mainstream Americans who didn't support the insane and destructive Democratic agenda. Mrs. Clinton described those who didn't support her as a “basket of deplorables”.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

build the wall, deport them all!

Love the title

 

[Pogo]

OP morphs a single person into an entire poitical party en masse, then morphs her subject from half of Rump's supporters into the entire country, then morphs natural-born Americans into "illegals", manages to get all of those fallacies into a single thread title, and that's all you need to know about the OP.

Which natural-born Americans do you think anyone is calling “illegals”? Who do you claim are being called “illegals” who are not, in fact, in this country illegally?

Ones who were born here. That's what "natural born" means.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Which natural-born Americans do you think anyone is calling “illegals”? Who do you claim are being called “illegals” who are not, in fact, in this country illegally?

Ones who were born here. That's what "natural born" means.

Who is describing such people as “illegals”?

 

[jillian]

build the wall, deport them all!

white supremacists are deplorable.

your point?

 

[Pogo]

If you don't think the kind of people that were called 'deplorable' are deplorable, then you don't belong here.

As the term was first famously used, it referred pretty much to all mainstream Americans who didn't support the insane and destructive Democratic agenda. Mrs. Clinton described those who didn't support her as a “basket of deplorables”.

WRONG.

Roll tape.

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables."

"Half of Rump's supporters".

Who are "Rump's supporters"? How do we count them? Absent any better method we could count those who eventually voted for him ---- even though that would be way too generous given the volume of voters who voted for either candidate for no other reason than to block the other one, who really can't be called "supporters". But while we know that slice of the vote is significant, we have no way to count it, so we ignore it and include all of Rump's voters, which was 46% of the vote.

Now what was the voter base relative to eligible registered voters? The turnout was 55%, a figure that most countries with elections would be mortified by but normal for us. 45% of registered voters looked at the choices and said "what's the point?" and stayed home or did something else.

55% of 46% equals 25%. That's how many registered voters voted for Rump --- 25% of them.

Then there are unregisterded eligible voters -- those who could be registered but didn't bother. Another 30% of those eligible, not registered, meaning seven-tenths of those who could vote, registered to. And that figure is rounded up.

Seven-tenths of 25% and we're down to 17.5% of all eligible voters -- the entire body of everyone who could vote for Rump if they wanted to. 17.5% of that body.

Back to the original quote: "half of Trump's supporters"

One-half of 17.5% is 8.75% of all eligible voters. And that figure is way high owing to the conundrum of how to define "supporters" -- we're actually counting not "supporters" but "voters".

AND all of that is taking "half" literally rather than the "grossly generalistic" sense in which it was introduced right there in the quote.

All of that aside, zero % of those numbers represent "those who didn't support her" since she wasn't even talking about that.

In any case the point STANDS. There is no way the subject of that quote even at 8.75% can be morphed into "Americans" ---- which would have included the speaker herself. Just as there is no way that a single person named "Hillary Clinton" can be morphed into the entire body of "Democrats".

 

[Missouri_Mike]

build the wall, deport them all!

white supremacists are deplorable.

your point?

Illegals are deplorable. Your point?

 

[deanrd]

Democrats call Americans "deplorable" & illegals "Dreamers"...that's all you need to know about Dems

Racist Republicans are deplorable. Everyone knows that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you don't think the kind of people that were called 'deplorable' are deplorable, then you don't belong here.

As the term was first famously used, it referred pretty much to all mainstream Americans who didn't support the insane and destructive Democratic agenda. Mrs. Clinton described those who didn't support her as a “basket of deplorables”.

No that is simply not true.

This is exactly what she said:

"The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up."

So, if you don't find those sorts of people 'deplorable', you're probably a Trump fan.

 

[Correll]

If you don't think the kind of people that were called 'deplorable' are deplorable, then you don't belong here.

As the term was first famously used, it referred pretty much to all mainstream Americans who didn't support the insane and destructive Democratic agenda. Mrs. Clinton described those who didn't support her as a “basket of deplorables”.

WRONG.

Roll tape.

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables."

"Half of Rump's supporters".

Who are "Rump's supporters"? How do we count them? Absent any better method we could count those who eventually voted for him ---- even though that would be way too generous given the volume of voters who voted for either candidate for no other reason than to block the other one, who really can't be called "supporters". But while we know that slice of the vote is significant, we have no way to count it, so we ignore it and include all of Rump's voters, which was 46% of the vote.

Now what was the voter base relative to eligible registered voters? The turnout was 55%, a figure that most countries with elections would be mortified by but normal for us. 45% of registered voters looked at the choices and said "what's the point?" and stayed home or did something else.

55% of 46% equals 25%. That's how many registered voters voted for Rump --- 25% of them.

Then there are unregisterded eligible voters -- those who could be registered but didn't bother. Another 30% of those eligible, not registered, meaning seven-tenths of those who could vote, registered to. And that figure is rounded up.

Seven-tenths of 25% and we're down to 17.5% of all eligible voters -- the entire body of everyone who could vote for Rump if they wanted to. 17.5% of that body.

Back to the original quote: "half of Trump's supporters"

One-half of 17.5% is 8.75%. And that figure is way high.

1. It is absurd to pretend that all of Trump's supporters actually voted. Right there, you are playing dishonest game with the numbers.

2. Your assumption that people who did not vote did not support Trump is unsupported and stupid.


3. A truly reasonable assumption would be to assume that the non voters broke down approximately like the voters.


4. And if you smear HALF of a group, you smear the whole group, because every member is either A. 50% like to be "deplorable" or B. at least comfortable with being allied with "deplorables".


That's a huge slice of America that Hillary smeared.

The op is reasonable. Far more so than you, or your numbers game.

 

[Correll]

If you don't think the kind of people that were called 'deplorable' are deplorable, then you don't belong here.

As the term was first famously used, it referred pretty much to all mainstream Americans who didn't support the insane and destructive Democratic agenda. Mrs. Clinton described those who didn't support her as a “basket of deplorables”.

No that is simply not true.

This is exactly what she said:

"The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up."

So, if you don't find those sorts of people 'deplorable', you're probably a Trump fan.

Except the Hillary has long ago proved that none of that shit bothered her, that was just shit she was saying to smear people she didn't like.