Dems Finally Admit: We're lying about healthcare

[CrusaderFrank]

When is CF going to admit his lie in the OP?

I admit it: either Harry Reid or Barack Obama are lying, but considering they change the number of uninsured from 47million to 30 million without batting an eye or getting called on it, I'm not surprised

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It wouldn't save 54 billion a year.

So Harry Reid is lying?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Polk any luck on Bush saying "the war will pay for itself"?

 

[Polk]

It wouldn't save 54 billion a year.

So Harry Reid is lying?

No. He was stating the theoretical maximum that could be saved. However, that would depend on a lot of conditions that could never be met in the real world.

 

[DiveCon]

Do you have a link to cost it out? I can't find one? THANKS!

Care

That's coverage for one person...we just got the list of the 2010 health insurance rates today at my place of employment. I don't think they post info like that on the web.

Maine Aetna call 1-800-435-8742

thanks!
ahhhh, but that is GROUP rate coverage prices for an individual, i am looking for INDIVIDUAL coverage...for one who does not have the opportunity to buy insurance via a working group rate...

Group rates are much more reasonable...

then you need to get yourself into a group

 

[Polk]

That's coverage for one person...we just got the list of the 2010 health insurance rates today at my place of employment. I don't think they post info like that on the web.

Maine Aetna call 1-800-435-8742

thanks!
ahhhh, but that is GROUP rate coverage prices for an individual, i am looking for INDIVIDUAL coverage...for one who does not have the opportunity to buy insurance via a working group rate...

Group rates are much more reasonable...

then you need to get yourself into a group

Much easier said than done.

 

[Bfgrn]

Polk any luck on Bush saying "the war will pay for itself"?

The three trillion dollar war | Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes - Times Online

On the eve of war, there were discussions of the likely costs. Larry Lindsey, President Bush's economic adviser and head of the National Economic Council, suggested that they might reach $200 billion. But this estimate was dismissed as “baloney” by the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. His deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, suggested that postwar reconstruction could pay for itself through increased oil revenues. Mitch Daniels, the Office of Management and Budget director, and Secretary Rumsfeld estimated the costs in the range of $50 to $60 billion, a portion of which they believed would be financed by other countries. (Adjusting for inflation, in 2007 dollars, they were projecting costs of between $57 and $69 billion.) The tone of the entire administration was cavalier, as if the sums involved were minimal.

Even Lindsey, after noting that the war could cost $200 billion, went on to say: “The successful prosecution of the war would be good for the economy.” In retrospect, Lindsey grossly underestimated both the costs of the war itself and the costs to the economy. Assuming that Congress approves the rest of the $200 billion war supplemental requested for fiscal year 2008, as this book goes to press Congress will have appropriated a total of over $845 billion for military operations, reconstruction, embassy costs, enhanced security at US bases, and foreign aid programmes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As the fifth year of the war draws to a close, operating costs (spending on the war itself, what you might call “running expenses”) for 2008 are projected to exceed $12.5 billion a month for Iraq alone, up from $4.4 billion in 2003, and with Afghanistan the total is $16 billion a month. Sixteen billion dollars is equal to the annual budget of the United Nations, or of all but 13 of the US states. Even so, it does not include the $500 billion we already spend per year on the regular expenses of the Defence Department. Nor does it include other hidden expenditures, such as intelligence gathering, or funds mixed in with the budgets of other departments.

Because there are so many costs that the Administration does not count, the total cost of the war is higher than the official number.

 

[Fatality]

Is this the biggest lie ever told?

certainly the most expensive