Discrimination: 2,098 Syrian muslims admitted into US - Only 53 Christians

[koshergrl]

Disgusting.

"Syrian Christians have been singled out for the worst kind of persecution under ISIS, including mass beheadings that do not discriminate against innocent women and even small children.
"Nevertheless, despite this widely publicized bloodbath, since 2011, only 53 Christians have been offered refuge in the United States."

"About those Republicans who suggested we bring in Syrian refugees who are Christians, the President raged “We don’t have religious tests to our compassion We do not close our hearts to these victims of such violence and somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue of terrorism.”
"According to the actual numbers, though, the president is lying."
Discrimination: 2,098 Syrian Muslim Refugees Allowed Into America, Only 53 Christians - Breitbart

 

[ScienceRocks]

Isn't' syria 90% muslim?

 

[Coyote]

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

 

[Skylar]

Isn't' syria 90% muslim?

Christians make up about 10% of the population. So by strict numbers, with no other consideration.....you'd expect about 200 of the refugees to be Christian.

I don't know the make up of the actual refugees. They could skew more toward Muslim or more toward Christian.

 

[daws101]

kosherhag isn't really a Christian

 

[Skylar]

kosherhag isn't really a Christian

I don't' really use the folks in this board as a demonstration of actual Christian values. I've seen 2 self proclaimed Christians here call for the genocide of 1.6 billion people today alone.

 

[daws101]

kosherhag isn't really a Christian

I don't' really use the folks in this board as a demonstration of actual Christian values. I've seen 2 self proclaimed Christians here call for the genocide of 1.6 billion people today alone.

Bravo.

 

[TheOldSchool]

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Discrimination: 2,098 Syrian muslims admitted into US - Only 53 Christians"

The idiocy and stupidity of this speaks for itself.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

kosherhag isn't really a Christian

I don't' really use the folks in this board as a demonstration of actual Christian values. I've seen 2 self proclaimed Christians here call for the genocide of 1.6 billion people today alone.

True.

With no mention whatsoever as to how such a task is to be accomplished, by whom, and by what 'authority.'

 

[koshergrl]

Isn't' syria 90% muslim?

Not any more. They killed off 80 percent of the Christians.

 

[koshergrl]

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

Are you fucking kidding me?

When there are special classes made to accommodate muslims with MULTIPLE ties to terrorism, but the admin states they can't be bothered to make a special classification for CHRISTIANS, who are being SLAUGHTERED?

Give me a break. You're disgusting.

 

[koshergrl]

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

 

[koshergrl]

"...the United Nations itself is strongly beholden to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), it’s largest voting bloc, which has its own views on the refugee situation that are unlikely to conform with U.S. interests and equally unlikely to favor Christians, given that at the OIC’s home headquarters, in Saudi Arabia, the practice of Christianity is itself largely illegal.
"....perhaps most largely problematic, is the appearance of overt anti-Christian bias by the State Department itself. As good friend of the Center, Institute for Religion and Democracy’s Faith McDonnell notes in her recent piece on the state of Christian refugees, the State Department has explicitly declared they, “would not support a special category to bring Assyrian Christians into the United States,” in response to a plan by a private aid group to fund, entirely free of taxpayer dollars, the transport of Assyrian Christians facing extermination by Islamic State.
"In other words, even when its free, no cost to them, the State Department has preferred to snub Christians rather than save them."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Well then we know of 53 that American liberals will want sent back.

 

[daws101]

Well then we know of 53 that American liberals will want sent back.

Not gonna happen , they will get the same treatment as all the others.
Not the special consideration the op and yourself wish they would because of their religion.

 

[Coyote]

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

The figures released say nothing of the sort. The "discrimination" is unintentional in that they rely on refugees that register at refugee camps and religious minorities are afraid to do so because they are afraid of attack. No one is saying - oops, you're a Christian, out you go. What it means is that perhaps there should be a reassessment of the process in order to try and make sure all refugees can be assessed for resettlement.

 

[koshergrl]

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

The figures released say nothing of the sort. The "discrimination" is unintentional in that they rely on refugees that register at refugee camps and religious minorities are afraid to do so because they are afraid of attack. No one is saying - oops, you're a Christian, out you go. What it means is that perhaps there should be a reassessment of the process in order to try and make sure all refugees can be assessed for resettlement.

Refusing to accommodate Christians when they know they are victimized at the refugee camps, and by the UN IS intentional. And when faced with that, Obama said straight up that he wasn't going to give them "special" consideration based on their religion...even though they are targeted for GENOCIDE because of their religion.

Yet he has given TERRORISTS special consideration.

Think that over for a few minutes.

 

[Coyote]

"...the United Nations itself is strongly beholden to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), it’s largest voting bloc, which has its own views on the refugee situation that are unlikely to conform with U.S. interests and equally unlikely to favor Christians, given that at the OIC’s home headquarters, in Saudi Arabia, the practice of Christianity is itself largely illegal.
"....perhaps most largely problematic, is the appearance of overt anti-Christian bias by the State Department itself. As good friend of the Center, Institute for Religion and Democracy’s Faith McDonnell notes in her recent piece on the state of Christian refugees, the State Department has explicitly declared they, “would not support a special category to bring Assyrian Christians into the United States,” in response to a plan by a private aid group to fund, entirely free of taxpayer dollars, the transport of Assyrian Christians facing extermination by Islamic State.
"In other words, even when its free, no cost to them, the State Department has preferred to snub Christians rather than save them."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

Center for Security Policy - Frank Gaffney? Gaffney is a discredited conspiracy theorist.

 

[Coyote]

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

Is it discrimination? Or - is it a problem with the refugee system in general? It's not the president that determines this.

So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out.

Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too.

Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).

Applications are then handled by one of nine State Department-managed resettlement support centers around the world, a process that includes vetting and interviews by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and takes an average of 18-24 months. There are occasions when a process can begin without UNHCR referral, but this usually applies in cases of close relatives of refugees already in the U.S.

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Discrimination requires intent and I don't think the intent is there.

"...the Refugee Resettlement system already has “a religious test of their compassion”, to quote the president. And that’s a test which actively disfavors Christians, according to figures released by the State Department."

" Christian groups in the Middle East face aggressive discrimination from a wide variety of the factions fighting across the Middle East, including especially the Islamic State, and so could reasonably be conceived to make up a disproportionate percentage of refugees.
"So depending on calculation method Christian refugees could fairly be between 10% to 23% of the total refugee flow from Syria, ignoring any other questions of preference such as propensity to support groups like Islamic State.
"But they are only 2.4%. That is heavily suggestive that there is a systematic bias against Christian refugees within the system."

Center for Security Policy | The Refugee Resettlement Process is Already Discriminatory

The figures released say nothing of the sort. The "discrimination" is unintentional in that they rely on refugees that register at refugee camps and religious minorities are afraid to do so because they are afraid of attack. No one is saying - oops, you're a Christian, out you go. What it means is that perhaps there should be a reassessment of the process in order to try and make sure all refugees can be assessed for resettlement.

Refusing to accommodate Christians when they know they are victimized at the refugee camps, and by the UN IS intentional. And when faced with that, Obama said straight up that he wasn't going to give them "special" consideration based on their religion...even though they are targeted for GENOCIDE because of their religion.

Yet he has given TERRORISTS special consideration.

Think that over for a few minutes.

Where have they "refused to accommodate Christians"?

Obama is correct - there should not be a religious test for refugees. Yes Christians are targeted by ISIS, as are other religious minorities and many many of the "wrong brand" of Muslims. They all deserve help as refugees. As far as I see it - they need to find a way to reach those who are not registering at refugee camps -- I suspect, given the chaos, it's a difficult job.

What terrorists has he given special consideration?