I understand that FDR wasn't exactly out there selling boy scout cookies. I'm merely responding to the OPs comparison of two Democrat presidents who did nothing. Both FDR and Biden have had two entirely different agendas, both succeeding failed Republican presidents, but to say they are doing nothing, is beyond laughable for me. As it should for anyone with a little knowledge of the two time periods.FDR put Japanese Americans in concentration camps. . .
. . . and at the rate the establishment war propaganda is going?
It would not surprise me if the American establishment puts Russian Americans and anyone that supports them into FEMA camps. It certainly looks like both PoliticalChic and rightwinger would have no problem with that.
Do You Believe In Coincidences????
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Be more specific?
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FDR was dealing with bringing the country back from the soup lines to basic living conditions again because of a failed Republican president. Same shit happened to Obama. FDR was in no position, control, or power to leverage Hitler at the time. It was one reason we didn't immediately enter WWII.
There is nothing specific in your statement. Here's what I think. You made it up because you are a well known liar on this board.
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It doesn't matter.
For the ruling elites? Political party is something they use to fool the plebes. . they don't really think party matters. AND? It doesn't, not really.
League Refuses to "Help Perpetrate a Fraud"
Press Release / Last Updated: October 3, 1988
League Refuses to "Help Perpetrate a Fraud" | League of Women Voters
NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 3, 1988 LEAGUE REFUSES TO "HELP PERPETRATE A FRAUD"
www.lwv.org
FDR was a Democrat. . . his uncle Teddy, was a Republican. . none of that matters to these folks, it is just a vehicle for them to get elected. They are members of the upper-class. Their class matters more to them than their party, it really does.
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Some Cliff Notes for ya': you and the Dimm Bidenista's due to your TDS have been totally Domestically focused in making sure Trump cannot run again that you schmucks forgot that there was a big, wide world of international geopolitical players out there watching and plotting against your every move knowing that they could take the U.S. down caught up in it's self-involved insanity.
And, it's happening!!
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That isn't what the record shows.
The record shows, that you support spooks attempting to provoke a war, and once they have, you want to make billionaires rich off the backs of the poor and middle classes.
That is all the record shows.
Chris Hedges: Russia Was Baited Into War but That Does Not Absolve Its Criminal Aggression
Russia has every right to feel threatened, betrayed, and angry. But to understand is not to condone. The invasion of Ukraine, under post-Nuremberg laws, is a criminal war of aggression.
by Chris Hedges
Chris Hedges: Russia Was Baited Into War but That Does Not Absolve Its Criminal Aggression
Chris Hedges: Russia has every right to feel threatened, betrayed, and angry. But the invasion of Ukraine is a criminal war of aggression.
www.mintpressnews.com
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OHHHH??? You want to play pretend stupid ass partisan games huh?
Well. . Hitler couldn't have done shit without support of conservative American financiers. At least the liberal elites have cut off Putin's banking . . . eh, wot wot?
Stopped him from buying any refined gas, didn't they?
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president.
www.theguardian.com
Bush grandpa's ties to Nazis clearer on 70th Auschwitz memorial
The ties between Hitler's Nazis and American businessmen such as Henry Ford, Averell Harriman, and Senator Prescott Bush, the father of George HW Bush,
www.digitaljournal.com
Documents: Bush's Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler
President Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.
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Bush Grandfather Linked to Bank With Ties to Nazi-funding
Bush grandfather linked to bank with ties to Nazi-funding
WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush's Grandfather Was a Director of a Bank Seized by the Federal Government Because of Its Ties to a German Industrialist Who
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This was posted in this very thread.
You appear to have a short term memory deficit....might be a sign of a larger problem.
3. Democrat Franklin Roosevelt was hardly 1° of difference from either Chamberlain, or the current appeaser, Biden.
In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.
The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
- May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
- And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
- And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
- The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
4. When Chamberlain infamously gave in to Hitler's advances in Europe.....FDR was right there giving him a high-five:
At the Munich conference where Europe sold out Czechoslovakia, even though France had a treaty to go to war to preserve Czechoslovakia…..Chamberlain was about to appease Hitler….and FDR sent this message to Chamberlain:
"MUNICH MESSAGE FROM U.S. BARED; Roosevelt Sent Encouraging 'Good Man' to Chamberlain Day Before Conference
MUNICH MESSAGE FROM U.S. BARED; Roosevelt Sent Encouraging 'Good Man' to Chamberlain Day Before Conference (Published 1955)
Documents on US foreign relations in '38, pub by State Dept, include P Gilbert rept on Anschluss, noting strong Austrian support for move
5. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48
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"FDR was dealing with bringing the country back from the soup lines"
The very opposite.
He wanted a crisis so he could obviate the Constitution.
1.Gene Smiley, a professor of economics at Marquette University provides more than 15 pages of relentless evidence that the fuzzy, price-fixing cartelization promoted by that ill-conceived legislation worsened the climate for American business. Wages soared in 1933 in the face of high unemployment, forced up by the underconsumptionist mandates of the NRA, which, in turn, thwarted the budding recovery that followed the end of the 1933 banking crisis. Workers were priced out of the market, virtually halting a promising rise in employment. Activist government intervention in the economy—new regulatory agencies like the Securities and Exchange Commission and the National Labor Relations Board, new make-work relief agencies like the Civilian Conservation Corps, new entitlement programs like Social Security—did not speed recovery, but actually retarded it compared with historical American norms (e.g., the 1920-1922 downturn) or those of other countries.
The Claremont Institute - What Went Wrong?
2. The promotion of labor unions by New Deal laws (especially the Wagner Act of 1935) unquestionably hastened the demise of much of American manufacturing, as capital fled the high labor costs that unions encouraged. Minimum-wage laws did little to help the poor, but created unemployment for some workers, disproportionately members of minority groups. In short, many Depression-era laws did nothing to end the Depression, but imposed significant long-term costs on American society.
Ibid.
3. ... a decline in the ratio of deposits to currency, beginning in October 1930, that was the single most important factor in the monetary decline. This deterioration of the monetary stock was magnificently described by Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz in their Monetary History of the United States more than 40 years ago. The international dimension was a secondary cause.
Ibid.
4. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
5. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .
Have you ever read a book????
...a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers.
PoliticalChic
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It doesn't matter.
For the ruling elites? Political party is something they use to fool the plebes. . they don't really think party matters. AND? It doesn't, not really.
League Refuses to "Help Perpetrate a Fraud"
Press Release / Last Updated: October 3, 1988
League Refuses to "Help Perpetrate a Fraud" | League of Women Voters
NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 3, 1988 LEAGUE REFUSES TO "HELP PERPETRATE A FRAUD"
FDR was a Democrat. . . his uncle Teddy, was a Republican. . none of that matters to these folks, it is just a vehicle for them to get elected. They are members of the upper-class. Their class matters more to them than their party, it really does.
I find the dumbest among us claim an equivalence between the parties.
Watch me prove it false.
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,
socialism,
infanticide,
opposition to free speech,
standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens
substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,
support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,
accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,
and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.
Bet you can't provide a similar indictment for the other party.
PoliticalChic
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OHHHH??? You want to play pretend stupid ass partisan games huh?
Well. . Hitler couldn't have done shit without support of conservative American financiers. At least the liberal elites have cut off Putin's banking . . . eh, wot wot?
Stopped him from buying any refined gas, didn't they?
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president.
Bush grandpa's ties to Nazis clearer on 70th Auschwitz memorial
The ties between Hitler's Nazis and American businessmen such as Henry Ford, Averell Harriman, and Senator Prescott Bush, the father of George HW Bush,www.digitaljournal.com
Documents: Bush's Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler
President Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.
Bush Grandfather Linked to Bank With Ties to Nazi-funding
Bush grandfather linked to bank with ties to Nazi-funding
WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush's Grandfather Was a Director of a Bank Seized by the Federal Government Because of Its Ties to a German Industrialist Who
I seem to be getting under your scales.
Re-post sans the childish vulgarity.
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Hitler was 100x worse then Putin. Putin is just a tame poodle compared to Hitler. Putin is a harmless fly in the wind compared to hitler.By the strangest of accidents......well......consider this:
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1. Both of the above .......under Democrat Presidents.
2. Neville Chamberlain, in full Arthur Neville Chamberlain, (born March 18, 1869, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England—died November 9, 1940, Heckfield, near Reading, Hampshire), prime minister of the United Kingdom from May 28, 1937, to May 10, 1940, whose name is identified with the policy of “appeasement” toward Adolf Hitler’s Germany in the period immediately preceding World War II.
Britannica.com
3. Democrat Franklin Roosevelt was hardly 1° of difference from either Chamberlain, or the current appeaser, Biden.
In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.
The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
- May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
- And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
- And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
- The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
4. When Chamberlain infamously gave in to Hitler's advances in Europe.....FDR was right there giving him a high-five:
At the Munich conference where Europe sold out Czechoslovakia, even though France had a treaty to go to war to preserve Czechoslovakia…..Chamberlain was about to appease Hitler….and FDR sent this message to Chamberlain:
"MUNICH MESSAGE FROM U.S. BARED; Roosevelt Sent Encouraging 'Good Man' to Chamberlain Day Before Conference
MUNICH MESSAGE FROM U.S. BARED; Roosevelt Sent Encouraging 'Good Man' to Chamberlain Day Before Conference (Published 1955)
Documents on US foreign relations in '38, pub by State Dept, include P Gilbert rept on Anschluss, noting strong Austrian support for movemobile.nytimes.com
PoliticalChic
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Not 101x????
Are you sure????
One can always count on you for an articulate and erudite post.
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FDR saved this country from the Great Depression
Then he saved the world from Nazi and Japanese Oppression
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