Do you consider this Justice? Is this who we are?

[Clipper]

When you speak, do you imagine people are listening?

Must be, considering my post pissed you off.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Rigby5]

So they move to lovely Guatemala. Dad has a skill, right? Or has he been on the public dole for 19 years?

None of the family is going to be able to speak or understand the languages used in Guatemala.
The US ensured Guatemala is the dictatorship it has become.

{...
The 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état (Golpe de Estado en Guatemala de 1954) deposed the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and marked the end of the Guatemalan Revolution. The coup installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed authoritarian rulers in Guatemala. The coup was largely the result of a CIA covert operation code-named PBSuccess.
...}

 

[Rambunctious]

You do not mean "visa" since that is very temporary.
You mean apply for permanent citizenship.
And I do not know why?
Since he was employed, it may be he did and had a green card?
He did not "enter illegally" since he was a juvenile then just obeying his parents.

But it begins with a visa... so you can be employed..,. because you can't become a citizen unless you are gainfully employed... at least that's the way I remember it to be...

 

[Luckyone]

DODGE! Nice try. BUT I asked you to show proof that Trump was pardoning violent J6 protesters. Apparently you don't have any.

DODGE! nice try at hiding your inability to do research,

Apparently you need assistance. Here you go:

Trump pardoned violent Jan. 6 rioters. Here are 5 of them​

Hundreds of rioters accused of violently assaulting police at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, were pardoned Monday by President Trump, despite remarks from his allies in recent weeks condemning those defendants.

More than 600 people who invaded the Capitol that day as lawmakers sought to certify the results of the 2020 election were charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding law enforcement — and nearly 200 of them did so using a deadly or dangerous weapon.

The names of the 5 mentioned in the article are in the article.

Do you know how to go to the link and read?

 

[scruffy]

I and my family are starving, we are being persecuted by the government, we live in a hut with no way to protect against the temperatures, and there are no jobs to be had. I have to go somewhere to survive and the best place to go is the U.S. I don't care about the law. It is a matter of survival.

Expect to be caught and deported.

Your misery is not my responsibility.

YOU have a government, go get yourself a rifle and do something about it.

 

[scruffy]

DODGE! nice try at hiding your inability to do research,

Apparently you need assistance. Here you go:

Trump pardoned violent Jan. 6 rioters. Here are 5 of them​

Hundreds of rioters accused of violently assaulting police at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, were pardoned Monday by President Trump, despite remarks from his allies in recent weeks condemning those defendants.

More than 600 people who invaded the Capitol that day as lawmakers sought to certify the results of the 2020 election were charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding law enforcement — and nearly 200 of them did so using a deadly or dangerous weapon.

The names of the 5 mentioned in the article are in the article.

Do you know how to go to the link and read?

Derailing your own thread?

 

[Lesh]

This was supposed to be about deporting violent felons.

Obviously not.

It’s about inflicting pain and making MAGA types happy

 

[excalibur]

Victimless crime.

How much in benefits is that family collecting? Taxpayers are victims.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I and my family are starving, we are being persecuted by the government, we live in a hut with no way to protect against the temperatures, and there are no jobs to be had. I have to go somewhere to survive and the best place to go is the U.S. I don't care about the law. It is a matter of survival.

Then you've wasted your time and back to the mud hut you go. Try a neighbouring safe country in future.

 

[scruffy]

This was supposed to be about deporting violent felons.

Obviously not.

It’s about inflicting pain and making MAGA types happy

The OP derailed its own thread.

Blame the OP.

Your bleeding hearts are not my responsibility. The health and safety of MY CHILDREN are my responsibility.

You will use my tax money for MY CHILDREN before you piss it away on illegal aliens from foreign countries.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Here in this video is a Guatemalan man that was deported this week. This man was here in the U.S. illegally but he has been here for 19 years and he is married and has 2 children, one of which is 4 months old.



Imagine the consequences that his family is now going to suffer.

Is this Justice? Is this who we are now?

It is Justice. He committed a crime coming here and crimes every year working illegally possibly even identity theft if he was working under a stolen identity. His family should go with him.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Here in this video is a Guatemalan man that was deported this week. This man was here in the U.S. illegally but he has been here for 19 years and he is married and has 2 children, one of which is 4 months old.



Imagine the consequences that his family is now going to suffer.

Is this Justice? Is this who we are now?

Notice he openly admits intending to compound his earlier crime.

 

[AZrailwhale]

There is no path to citizenship for people here illegally. We’ve been trying to make one for decades but Republicans wail and moan every time we try.

Why should there be a path to citizenship for anyone who knowingly violated our laws by immigrating illegally?

 

[AZrailwhale]

So you think the solution is to deport US Citizens to Guatemala where there family has no jobs and no where to live....

Explain to me how this Makes America Great?

Two American Citizens have their father deported and US Citizen has lost her husband...

It seems MAGA stands for fuck Americans..

He never said his wife was a citizen or legal resident.

 

[MayorQuimby]

This was supposed to be about deporting violent felons.

Obviously not.

It’s about inflicting pain and making MAGA types happy

He would not be experiencing this pain if he hadn't come here illegally.

His children who were born in the US are indeed in a bad situation, however this isn't Americans' fault. If they get deported to a country whose language they don't speak, they should blame their father, not Americans.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Explain what Crime the kids committed...

Oh I got it, they were born a crime....

This guy is married to an US Citizen...

If he went to Guatemala and married his wife again, that should allow him access to the country... They have a clear history together....

I don’t think so. I believe that once you are deported you are denied rentry forever. Even making the attempt is a felony.

 

[Luckyone]

Notice he openly admits intending to compound his earlier crime.

No, he wants to be with his wife and kids, no matter what. Thatis what a loving husband does.He sacrifices himself for those he loves. You would not do that?

 

[Luckyone]

Notice he openly admits intending to compound his earlier crime.

No, he wants to be with his wife and kids, no matter what. Thatis what a loving husband does.He sacrifices himself for those he loves. You would not do that?

Then you've wasted your time and back to the mud hut you go. Try a neighbouring safe country in future.

You are a perfect example of this

 

[AZrailwhale]

In 19 years here, the only thing he was accused of was Trespassing. So where do you come up with drugs and theft? Is that factual or just your assumption-of-guilt-because-he-is-illegal?

May I remind you that over 12 million people are here illegally and yet more Americans have been found guilty of drugs and theft than immigrants!

The pro-illegal crowd like you have been using that twelve million figure for at least three decades. The real number is probably north of fifty million by now.

 

[AZrailwhale]

They'll see now when prices increase for different products because Americans don't want to work the jobs that these people were slaving in. Those employers are going to have to pay Americans a lot more, maybe even as much as double what they were paying these hard-working, undocumented immigrants. That translates into higher prices for paying consumers.

Labor is a tiny part of the retail cost of items.