Republican SNAP Proposals Could Take Food Away From Millions of Low-Income Individuals and Families

[BackAgain]

prices are set by the capitalists.

What a maroon.

Yeah, you imbecile. Food grows for free. There are no watering requirements or fertilizing. Hell, we don’t even need farmers.

Hey everybody. Problem solved. Dumfuk has cleverly pointed out that food is free.

 

[Concerned American]

How about discouraging young women in this nation not to have children. No abortions no snap. A declining birthrate may be the ticket.

Just because you haven't gotten any for over thirty years doesn't mean you should try to deny healthy young folks the pleasure. How do you think your senior freebies are paid for? LMAO

 

[whitehall]

Why can't the left deal with actual issues instead of propaganda and constant threats of starvation and chaos? They are worse than the freaking Russians.

 

[sartre play]

OK so what happened to fixing things we created to help?
Instead of just destroying then.
And then just saying we will figure it out later????

 

[Anathema]

….or, just limit the crap they can buy with OUR money. No soda. No candy. No sweetened food at all.

They’ll find ways around that far too easily… just as those who trade benefits for alcohol and smokes do.

 

[SeaMajor7]

That opens a whole new can of worms. We attend a lot of pot lucks and I am amazed at the number of people who have food allergies. Seems one woman can't eat anything normal, LOL, I have never heard of some of the things that she has in her diet. Then you have the "gluten free" crowd and lactose intolerant. Not to mention the vegan and plant based bunch. It would be a nightmare to put together pre packaged bags as it seems that in modern times, one size doesn't fit all anymore.

Hey now, I'm lactose intolerant and it's not a choice. Thankfully, there are enzyme supplements easily available. Funny thing, it took me like two years to discover them, and I lost 20 freaking lbs going completely dairy free.

 

[Anathema]

That opens a whole new can of worms. We attend a lot of pot lucks and I am amazed at the number of people who have food allergies. Seems one woman can't eat anything normal, LOL, I have never heard of some of the things that she has in her diet. Then you have the "gluten free" crowd and lactose intolerant. Not to mention the vegan and plant based bunch. It would be a nightmare to put together pre packaged bags as it seems that in modern times, one size doesn't fit all anymore.

Those who have legitimate, medically certified allergies could be dealt with. The vegetarian, vegan and “I don’t like” crowds can choose… eat what’s provided or starve. Either way the taxpayers benefit. Who knows, maybe it even gets some of these lazy fucks off their ass.

Several years ago I did a grocery run for my sister-in-law and her family (4 kids and a good for nothing husband). I spent close to $250, and provided her with the recipes to make the food last eight days. Four days later we got asked for money for food. When asked why we were told “the kids won’t eat Whst you bought”. My response… “when they get hungry enough they will.”

 

[Captain Caveman]

prices are set by the capitalists.

I fed my children because they were my responsibility, you Lefties want others and the state to be responsible for yours.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

“Prominent Republican lawmakers and conservative think tanks have proposed cuts and other harmful policy changes to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) that could gain traction in Congress this year. These changes would cut food assistance across the U.S., making it harder for millions of people to buy the groceries they need to eat a healthy diet.”

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/republican-snap-proposals-could-take-food-away-from-millions-of-low-income

Why are able-bodied people without dependents on subsidies? I’m not even sure why having dependents is an issue. Most people with kids work everyday. Yet it’s a big “mystery” why there are different outcomes for some people in this country.

When you can buy candy, soda and snacks on Snap it needs to be cut.

On a side note the dumbest sign homeless people hold is will work for food. No shit. We’re all out here working for food you fucking asshole.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Cry me a fucking river.

Almost every member of my wife’s family collects SNAP. Anywhere from less than $200 to over $1200 depending on the family unit. Generally it’s gone by the third week of the month… BECAUSE THRYRE BUYING CRAP!!! They refuse to coupon, won’t shop at BJs or other discount stores and spend the money on high priced luxury items rather than what they should be buying. My wife and I will no longer offer to help with their groceries because they refuse to shop smart.

I have long been in favor of replacing food stamps with a pseudo-food pantry operation where individuals or families show up and pick up pre-packed bags of food based on the composition of the family. I’m even willing to specialize the food based on ethnic tastes.,

You're like God, aren't you? You know what everyone is doing with their public assistance. Amazing. Your family does this and that, and you disapprove of what they do, hence what they're doing must be immoral and of course, everyone else is a carbon copy of your family.

 

[Concerned American]

You're like God, aren't you? You know what everyone is doing with their public assistance. Amazing. Your family does this and that, and you disapprove of what they do, hence what they're doing must be immoral and of course, everyone else is a carbon copy of your family.

The difference is "PUBLIC ASSISTANCE." If the government is providing you with your sustenance, it is their right to ensure that assistance isn't being abused. If you don't want the government assuring that the assistance is being used intelligently, get off your useless ass and provide for yourself.

 

[elektra]

The cruelty is the point.

Trump cultists, being awful human beings, literally get off on cruelty.

Our resident lying bigot proves democrats don't change

maMOOT is a sad loser

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

“Prominent Republican lawmakers and conservative think tanks have proposed cuts and other harmful policy changes to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) that could gain traction in Congress this year. These changes would cut food assistance across the U.S., making it harder for millions of people to buy the groceries they need to eat a healthy diet.”

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/republican-snap-proposals-could-take-food-away-from-millions-of-low-income

Why are able-bodied people without dependents on subsidies? I’m not even sure why having dependents is an issue. Most people with kids work everyday. Yet it’s a big “mystery” why there are different outcomes for some people in this country.

Please point out the part of the Constitution that states the Federal Government is responsible for feeding anyone. I can save you the trouble of searching and tell you it's not there. So...

10th Amendment.
" The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. "

 

[krichton]

let the states pick it back up like its supposed to be

Blue states are loaded with money so they can probably budget for it, it's the Trump loving red states that will suffer. Republican governors, congressman and senators, 99.5% of which back Trump are going to be in for a world of hurt once he cuts SNAP, federal funding for public schools and drives up inflation when he tariffs Canada, Mexico and other countries. Can't wait.

 

[Mac-7]

Some SNAP recipients make poor choices so we should just cut everyone off completely because of them?

Not all SNAP recipients have children

Thise who are able bodied should not get food stamps

Its a small improvement overall but a good place to start

 

[fncceo]

The cruelty is the point.

Trump cultists, being awful human beings, literally get off on cruelty.

Only consensual cruelty

 

[TruthNotBS]

The difference is "PUBLIC ASSISTANCE." If the government is providing you with your sustenance, it is their right to ensure that assistance isn't being abused. If you don't want the government assuring that the assistance is being used intelligently, get off your useless ass and provide for yourself.

Oh please, "Concerned American," spare me your bullshit, tough-guy routine. Your whole argument is built on nothing but smug condescension and a fantasy version of how society actually works. You act like public assistance is some sort of privilege handed out to the undeserving, instead of what it actually is, a basic necessity that millions rely on because the so-called "free market" fails to provide for them. The reality is, people don’t wake up one morning and choose to be poor, to struggle for food, to beg for healthcare. The system pushes them into these positions, then people like you turn around and blame them for it.

Moreover, who exactly decides what "intelligent use" of public assistance is? You? Some bureaucratic panel of out-of-touch elites? The same assholes who defend massive corporate welfare:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,499,739,531	963
2	Intel	$8,423,581,056	139
3	Ford Motor	$7,746,892,959	704
4	General Motors	$7,533,646,692	793
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,887,660,428	480
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,780,112	75
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,716,512	75
12	Volkswagen	$4,103,804,970	225
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,392,737,237	119
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	116
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,626,608,041	272
20	Nucor	$2,575,858,691	202
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	111
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,366,022,712	8
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,214,461,311	133
26	Alphabet Inc.	$2,140,082,221	134
27	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
28	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
29	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,103,574,428	83
30	Toyota	$2,071,134,513	244
31	Paramount Global	$1,986,772,523	348
32	Brookfield Corporation	$1,984,319,869	293
33	Comcast	$1,982,844,868	409
34	OGE Energy	$1,971,748,595	19
35	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
36	Apple Inc.	$1,912,457,519	70
37	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,262,898	44
38	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
39	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,834,939,931	1,221
40	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
41	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
42	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
43	Southern Company	$1,735,931,348	45
44	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,295,415	129
45	General Electric	$1,650,460,706	961
46	Duke Energy	$1,635,172,669	95
47	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
48	Eli Lilly	$1,587,988,100	82
49	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,564,076,731	66
50	General Atomics	$1,556,475,083	113
51	IBM Corp.	$1,498,690,934	370
52	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	327
53	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
54	Corning Inc.	$1,391,611,133	403
55	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
56	Microsoft	$1,368,493,159	115
57	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
58	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,299,594	288
59	Vingroup	$1,254,021,021	2
60	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
61	RTX Corporation	$1,216,214,555	805
62	CF Industries	$1,189,688,351	150
63	Valero Energy	$1,058,366,895	209
64	Dow Inc.	$1,049,400,498	642
65	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
66	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,026,557,482	89
67	SkyWest	$1,010,125,798	339
68	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
69	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
70	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
71	Centene	$916,959,104	67
72	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
73	Apollo Global Management	$899,742,274	614
74	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
75	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
76	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
77	Honda	$854,285,026	98
78	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
79	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
80	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
81	SunEdison	$821,563,157	124
82	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
83	Bank of America	$798,465,317	957
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$787,468,003	220
85	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
86	EDF-Electricite de France	$781,143,574	36
87	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
88	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
89	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
90	Koch Industries	$698,421,970	518
91	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
92	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
93	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	543
94	FedEx	$649,583,890	637
95	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
96	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,465,134	80

...but fucking lose their minds if a single mother gets food stamps? Really? What makes you think you get to be the judge of what someone else needs to survive? Maybe you’d like the government to monitor every grocery purchase, every dollar spent on rent, and every doctor’s visit too? Maybe we should install cameras in people’s homes to make sure they’re being “responsible” with their food and electricity? Is that the kind of dystopian nightmare you’re aiming for?

The reality is, that public assistance exists because people need it. Without it, millions of Americans would be left to starve, suffer, and even die from treatable illnesses. Your beloved rich capitalist masters, living in their ivory towers, have no problem with government handouts when they’re handed to "defense" contractors (war profiteers, who make money off of us having plenty of enemies, filling the world with "boogiemen" for us to fear), billionaires, and banks that gamble away the economy every few years demanding a government bailout, but the moment someone struggling to make ends meet gets a lifeline, suddenly you’re outraged. Suddenly it’s about “personal responsibility” and “getting off your ass.” Really? What a joke.

Who really contributes to this country? It’s not the billionaires hoarding wealth in offshore accounts, it’s not the hedge fund managers gambling with other people’s money, and it sure as hell isn’t the politicians who pretend to represent the people while selling them out at every turn. It’s the working class. It’s the people busting their asses in factories, in hospitals, in schools, in the fields, in the kitchens, doing the actual work that keeps this country running. Do you think these people just choose poverty? Do you think they enjoy struggling while corporate executives make more in a day than they will in a lifetime?

What I’m advocating for isn’t some utopian fantasy, it’s basic human decency. Every person in this country deserves food, housing, healthcare, education, and a job. And if the private sector won’t provide those jobs, then the public sector must step up. No one should be left to rot in poverty just because the market decides their labor isn’t “valuable” enough. And spare me the fearmongering about government overreach. Government is nothing more than a tool, that serves the people, not the wealthy elite who have hijacked it for their own benefit to the detriment of everyone else. If we can use it to fund wars, prop up corporations, and bail out banks, we sure as hell can use it to make sure our own citizens don’t suffer and die in the streets.

So no, I won’t accept this right-wing nonsense that public assistance is some sort of undeserved luxury. People don’t need to prove to you or anyone else that they “deserve” to survive. The real problem isn’t the so-called "freeloaders" on public assistance, it’s the system that keeps them in that position in the first place. Do you want people off public assistance? Then fight for a system that guarantees fair wages (as in a living wage, rather than starvation wages, forcing people to work two, three jobs), worker control, and an economy that actually serves the people instead of the profit margins of a handful of billionaires. But I have a feeling that’s not the kind of accountability you’re interested in.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Only consensual cruelty

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That's the masochistic, self-righteous, right-wing conservative, mammon-worshiping Republicans who hate themselves, because they're members of the working class but think they should become like their wealthy capitalist parasite masters, by licking their boots and voting against their own class interests.

Shame on you, if you're of the working class, renting your labor power, your very life, to a capitalist parasite, and rather than standing with your co-workers, you decide to defend the vested interests of your parasite master, who lives in his ivory tower, relying on the labor (the sweat and tears, even the blood) of others, because you want to become like him. SHAME ON YOU, treacherous, masochistic scumbags, who betray and hurt yourselves, your family, and your friends, out of some delusional desire to become a parasite capitalist master living in opulence and financial security, to the detriment of everyone else. SHAME ON YOU.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Blue states are loaded with money so they can probably budget for it, it's the Trump loving red states that will suffer. Republican governors, congressman and senators, 99.5% of which back Trump are going to be in for a world of hurt once he cuts SNAP, federal funding for public schools and drives up inflation when he tariffs Canada, Mexico and other countries. Can't wait.

He and his cronies are going to be sent packing, perhaps even by many of the same people who voted for him. He'll make conditions so BAD, that the younger "MAGAS" will wake up. Those who are still in the workforce will turn against him. The older MAGAS, they don't care, because they're living off of their SS and other pension plans, and relying on Medicare for their healthcare. They're no longer in the workforce, so they're just out of a delusional, self-righteous, ignorant rancor, voting the way they do before they "kick the bucket". Ultimately, hurting the working class that they were part of all of their working lives. They're pathetic.

Seeing how this country has plummeted even deeper into the plutocratic swamp, which Trump promised to drain back in 2016, people on the right who were comatose, are now waking up. They're saying:

"Who the hell did I vote for?"...​

Hell, I'm a socialist who voted for Trump back in 2016 and then I woke up.."Wait a second, he's filling his administration with SWAMP PEOPLE, I thought he was sincere and was going to DRAIN SWAMP". Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I didn't fall for the BS in 2020 or now. Trump and his ilk, don't give a rat's ass about the American working class. Wake up people. He doesn't give a shit about you. He never did. He was always a class-conscious, neo-liberal, capitalist warrior, fighting for his class interests. The American working class needs to once more develop the same level of class consciousness as the capitalist wealthy elites.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh please, "Concerned American," spare me your bullshit, tough-guy routine. Your whole argument is built on nothing but smug condescension and a fantasy version of how society actually works. You act like public assistance is some sort of privilege handed out to the undeserving, instead of what it actually is, a basic necessity that millions rely on because the so-called "free market" fails to provide for them. The reality is, people don’t wake up one morning and choose to be poor, to struggle for food, to beg for healthcare. The system pushes them into these positions, then people like you turn around and blame them for it.

Moreover, who exactly decides what "intelligent use" of public assistance is? You? Some bureaucratic panel of out-of-touch elites? The same assholes who defend massive corporate welfare:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,499,739,531	963
2	Intel	$8,423,581,056	139
3	Ford Motor	$7,746,892,959	704
4	General Motors	$7,533,646,692	793
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,887,660,428	480
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,780,112	75
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,716,512	75
12	Volkswagen	$4,103,804,970	225
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,392,737,237	119
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	116
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,626,608,041	272
20	Nucor	$2,575,858,691	202
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	111
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,366,022,712	8
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,214,461,311	133
26	Alphabet Inc.	$2,140,082,221	134
27	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
28	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
29	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,103,574,428	83
30	Toyota	$2,071,134,513	244
31	Paramount Global	$1,986,772,523	348
32	Brookfield Corporation	$1,984,319,869	293
33	Comcast	$1,982,844,868	409
34	OGE Energy	$1,971,748,595	19
35	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
36	Apple Inc.	$1,912,457,519	70
37	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,262,898	44
38	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
39	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,834,939,931	1,221
40	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
41	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
42	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
43	Southern Company	$1,735,931,348	45
44	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,295,415	129
45	General Electric	$1,650,460,706	961
46	Duke Energy	$1,635,172,669	95
47	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
48	Eli Lilly	$1,587,988,100	82
49	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,564,076,731	66
50	General Atomics	$1,556,475,083	113
51	IBM Corp.	$1,498,690,934	370
52	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	327
53	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
54	Corning Inc.	$1,391,611,133	403
55	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
56	Microsoft	$1,368,493,159	115
57	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
58	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,299,594	288
59	Vingroup	$1,254,021,021	2
60	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
61	RTX Corporation	$1,216,214,555	805
62	CF Industries	$1,189,688,351	150
63	Valero Energy	$1,058,366,895	209
64	Dow Inc.	$1,049,400,498	642
65	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
66	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,026,557,482	89
67	SkyWest	$1,010,125,798	339
68	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
69	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
70	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
71	Centene	$916,959,104	67
72	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
73	Apollo Global Management	$899,742,274	614
74	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
75	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
76	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
77	Honda	$854,285,026	98
78	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
79	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
80	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
81	SunEdison	$821,563,157	124
82	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
83	Bank of America	$798,465,317	957
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$787,468,003	220
85	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
86	EDF-Electricite de France	$781,143,574	36
87	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
88	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
89	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
90	Koch Industries	$698,421,970	518
91	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
92	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
93	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	543
94	FedEx	$649,583,890	637
95	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
96	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,465,134	80

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Blue state corporate subsidies are the worst!