Does America want all unelected people making decisions in government gone?

[WEATHER53]

Why do you trust Elon with this control?

He has shown me incredible success in creating and managing other projects so the thought process leads me to confidence in him here

 

[konradv]

As the Left melts down as they throw tantrum after tantrum because Elon Musk, who has not been elected directly by the people, is making governmental decisions, is everyone alright with getting rid of all unelected officials?

That would be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, just the ones not authorized by Congress or vetted by intelligence. People with close ties to the CCP, like Musk, shouldn’t be anywhere near government computers. For all the talk about Biden, he never tried to get everyone’s data for whatever reason. Are we supposed to just trust him? Seems like a lot of changes for stay-out-of-my-business MAGA to go through!

 

[Captain Caveman]

Extreme measures are generally not good ones.

or was that just opinion?

 

[22lcidw]

No, just the ones not authorized by Congress or vetted by intelligence. People with close ties to the CCP, like Musk, shouldn’t be anywhere near government computers. For all the talk about Biden, he never tried to get everyone’s data for whatever reason. Are we supposed to just trust him? Seems like a lot of changes for stay-out-of-my-business MAGA to go through!

There are most likely other ways to get data on people. We see massive stealing of that data at times for some reason. Humans having to know about other humans is a weakness. It leads to oppression and despots. The technology has caught up to achieve the most severe dystopian state in world history. If you see D.C. with Musk as a culprit, what is D.C. with the people in charge and the abuses they have on others now? It is difficult to keep freedoms when a government is enlarging itself way past the real inflation rate year after year and that does not even include new programs. Unwieldly and corruption is a truism.

 

[White 6]

why re you afraid of him??

is it because he is exposing corruption like we always claimed was there,,

I'm not. I simply prefer the constitution and laws passed by congress, as a means to govern the country.

 

[westwall]

Extreme measures are generally not good ones.

Really? Removing a cancerous tumor is not a good thing?

 

[westwall]

I'm not. I simply prefer the constitution and laws passed by congress, as a means to govern the country.

So do we. That's why what is happening should be supported by you. The graft and corruption is being eliminated.

 

[Votto]

Extreme measures are generally not good ones.

You mean like running up a $40 trillion dollar debt, letting in 15 million illegals in 4 years, and lopping off the genitals of children?

I agree

Funny how extremes bite you in the ass.

 

[White 6]

So do we. That's why what is happening should be supported by you. The graft and corruption is being eliminated.

Some, but being replaced with different corruption of the system, that appears to be outside of legal bounds. Not sure how far these out beyond laws of the land will go. It could be designed to crash. We just don't know yet.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm not. I simply prefer the constitution and laws passed by congress, as a means to govern the country.

and the constitution says POTUS is in charge of the executive branch,,

and so far elon has done a great job of weeding out waste and corruption,,

win win for everyone except those that hate america,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Some, but being replaced with different corruption of the system, that appears to be outside of legal bounds. Not sure how far these out beyond laws of the land will go. It could be designed to crash. We just don't know yet.

what legal bounds is elon outside of??

 

[westwall]

Some, but being replaced with different corruption of the system, that appears to be outside of legal bounds. Not sure how far these out beyond laws of the land will go. It could be designed to crash. We just don't know yet.

How so? Be specific.

 

[WEATHER53]

Some, but being replaced with different corruption of the system, that appears to be outside of legal bounds. Not sure how far these out beyond laws of the land will go. It could be designed to crash. We just don't know yet.

Appearances are used to cover a wide swath of maybe posed as real.
Let’s focus instead on successes in his business world as he goes about This business

 

[mudwhistle]

As of November 2024, the federal government employed just over 3 million people. The number of federal employees has topped 3 million since September 2024. The last time the government could claim that many employees was in September 1994.


Think of the savings!!

However, Elon works for free from what I hear, in fact, he is the only one that works for free.

How many people work for the federal government? | USAFacts

The federal government employs around 3 million people, making it the nation's 15th largest workforce.

usafacts.org

Trump works for free as well. He doesn't take his pay.

 

[White 6]

what legal bounds is elon outside of??

Probably turning the keys to Federal Payment system over to an Expat with triple citizenship, overriding security clearances for even classified veiwing access, much less active control and reprogamming authority, using Expat operatives. It is certainly not ethical, in terms of simple conflicts of interests, considering the number of government contracts he receives money through, and due to him being the chief financier of buying Trump into office.

But, like I said her or elsewhere, what is legal or illegal depends on if there is an agency to prosecute. There isn't, as far as the present government is concerned. Theoretically, you could rob a Federally insured bank, normally illegal, but if the Feds refuse to prosecute, you get to walk and enjoy the money. Laws are only valid, if enforced. Look at New York City, where prostitution is legal, as the District Attorney made and announce decision it would not be enforced against the prostitutes themselves, while he was in office. So, still on the books, but made meaningless.

 

[progressive hunter]

Probably turning the keys to Federal Payment system over to an Expat with triple citizenship, overriding security clearances for even classified veiwing access, much less active control and reprogamming authority, using Expat operatives. It is certainly not ethical, in terms of simple conflicts of interests, considering the number of government contracts he receives money through, and due to him being the chief financier of buying Trump into office.

But, like I said her or elsewhere, what is legal or illegal depends on if there is an agency to prosecute. There isn't, as far as the present government is concerned. Theoretically, you could rob a Federally insured bank, normally illegal, but if the Feds refuse to prosecute, you get to walk and enjoy the money. Laws are only valid, if enforced. Look at New York City, where prostitution is legal, as the District Attorney made and announce decision it would not be enforced against the prostitutes themselves, while he was in office. So, still on the books, but made meaningless.

do you have any proof he is working without POTUS approval??

I didnt think so,,

save you pearl clutching for your knitting circles,,

 

[White 6]

do you have any proof he is working without POTUS approval??

I didnt think so,,

save you pearl clutching for your knitting circles,,

I have no pearls nor am I clutching for any. Simply stating fact. It would not ordinarily make it right and legal for any other past President, but the Supremes now say, legal for any President if action approved is deemed to be in national interest, basically decided by the President, now above laws, only subject to impeachment. We already know, that will not fly, deserved or not.

I am just observing, wondering how far it will go, seeing no limits, no checks and balances, as designed by the founding fathers, in a system sustained with checks and balance for 247 years, up to now. Do you suppose it could last another 247 years as an autocracy or keptocracy? Doubtful, but at my age, won't have to worry about it more than 15 years and this guy can only be in office for the next 4, unless he overrules that, also.

 

[progressive hunter]

I have no pearls nor am I clutching for any. Simply stating fact. It would not ordinarily make it right and legal for any other past President, but the Supremes now say, legal for any President if action approved is deemed to be in national interest, basically decided by the President, now above laws, only subject to impeachment. We already know, that will not fly, deserved or not.

I am just observing, wondering how far it will go, seeing no limits, no checks and balances, as designed by the founding fathers, in a system sustained with checks and balance for 247 years, up to now. Do you suppose it could last another 247 years as an autocracy or keptocracy? Doubtful, but at my age, won't have to worry about it more than 15 years and this guy can only be in office for the next 4, unless he overrules that, also.

not seeing any facts there,,
just your pearl clutching screaming orange man bad,,

POTUS is in charge of the executive branch,, end of story,,


but please continue entertaining us with your objections,,

 

[Foxfyre]

As the Left melts down as they throw tantrum after tantrum because Elon Musk, who has not been elected directly by the people, is making governmental decisions, is everyone alright with getting rid of all unelected officials?

That would be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am all for our elected leaders signing off on ALL policy, rules, regulations that have the force of law or cost the taxpayers money. Nameless, faceless bureaucrats should not have that authority.

Those appointed or hired to manage the people's purse should be required to give an accounting for every penny they spend and should be allowed to spend only what is authorized by Congress and the President. And they must spend it as intended by Congress and the President.

The President has fiduciary power and responsibility to eliminate all spending that is either unconstitutional or not specifically authorized by Congress.

Elon Musk is not given power to enforce the recommendations he is making nor should he be. But Musk has the responsibility to ferret out those unconstitutional and/or unauthorized expenditures and expose government malfeasance.

Through the combined efforts of DOGE, responsible cabinet heads, and a responsible Congress and President, perhaps for the first time in a very long time, government can be restored to be the government for, of and by the people as it was intended.

 

[White 6]

not seeing any facts there,,
just your pearl clutching screaming orange man bad,,

POTUS is in charge of the executive branch,, end of story,,


but please continue entertaining us with your objections,,

Did I say he was bad? No. Simply stated facts of legalities and how handled. Calm yourself. We can only sit and watch and hope for the best.