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Yeah they ain't gonna pay those illegals fifteen an hour when they can pay them less than eight now them capitalist must live in big mansions and fly jet planes.
Keeping wages low and cost of living high is how the robber barons make their living.
The CEOs are not the cause of this.
If you collected all $8 Million dollars they paid the CEO of McDonalds, and gave it to all the employees, it would be less than $37 per person, per year. Now unless you think that one cent an hour, is going to make a difference in people's lives, then the problem isn't CEO pay.
And additionally, most of that $8 million isn't cash. It's stock, and it's stock the CEO can't sell for years. If you pay your hourly employees in stock they can't sell, they'll be worse off, not better off.
The bottom line is, if you jack up the price of labor, in areas where people are too poor to pay more money for services, then they stop buying the service. If they stop buying the service, then people lose their jobs.
The minimum wage is always zero.
When you raise the minimum wage, you increase low wage workers ability to buy more products and services. That actually provides a better boost for economic growth than tax cuts for people making over $100,000 dollars a year who never change the consumer habits when they get a tax cut.
Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
the third world is Cheaper, for a reason. the general government should be enacting Standards for our first world Union.The standard of living across the US is so variant that a standard national Minimum Wage is nothing short of asinine.
But of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
What about the fact that almost no one makes that wage do you not understand?
inflation happens, regardless. a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is merely a cost of living adjustment for our first world economy.Yeah they ain't gonna pay those illegals fifteen an hour when they can pay them less than eight now them capitalist must live in big mansions and fly jet planes.
Keeping wages low and cost of living high is how the robber barons make their living.
The CEOs are not the cause of this.
If you collected all $8 Million dollars they paid the CEO of McDonalds, and gave it to all the employees, it would be less than $37 per person, per year. Now unless you think that one cent an hour, is going to make a difference in people's lives, then the problem isn't CEO pay.
And additionally, most of that $8 million isn't cash. It's stock, and it's stock the CEO can't sell for years. If you pay your hourly employees in stock they can't sell, they'll be worse off, not better off.
The bottom line is, if you jack up the price of labor, in areas where people are too poor to pay more money for services, then they stop buying the service. If they stop buying the service, then people lose their jobs.
The minimum wage is always zero.
When you raise the minimum wage, you increase low wage workers ability to buy more products and services. That actually provides a better boost for economic growth than tax cuts for people making over $100,000 dollars a year who never change the consumer habits when they get a tax cut.
Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
Where I lived, Illinois, the minimum wage for McDonald Employees was a hell of a lot lower than that in 1979 so no way in hell it was higher than that in 1968.Yeah they ain't gonna pay those illegals fifteen an hour when they can pay them less than eight now them capitalist must live in big mansions and fly jet planes.
Keeping wages low and cost of living high is how the robber barons make their living.
The CEOs are not the cause of this.
If you collected all $8 Million dollars they paid the CEO of McDonalds, and gave it to all the employees, it would be less than $37 per person, per year. Now unless you think that one cent an hour, is going to make a difference in people's lives, then the problem isn't CEO pay.
And additionally, most of that $8 million isn't cash. It's stock, and it's stock the CEO can't sell for years. If you pay your hourly employees in stock they can't sell, they'll be worse off, not better off.
The bottom line is, if you jack up the price of labor, in areas where people are too poor to pay more money for services, then they stop buying the service. If they stop buying the service, then people lose their jobs.
The minimum wage is always zero.
When you raise the minimum wage, you increase low wage workers ability to buy more products and services. That actually provides a better boost for economic growth than tax cuts for people making over $100,000 dollars a year who never change the consumer habits when they get a tax cut.
Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
Not necessarily. Business price their products and services based on DEMAND, not on the cost of doing business. Business's did just fine paying $12 dollars an hour minimum wage in 1968. They will be just fine paying that minimum wage in 2019.
all i need to understand is that the right wing is whining about the cost of social services; keep complaining, right wingers.But of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
What about the fact that almost no one makes that wage do you not understand?
But of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
Why so people who make $5 dollars over minimum wage now, will make minimum wage?
How are they getting ahead by being able to go back wards and make minimum wage?
You stupid
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greater hope of a better raise, next time.But of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
Why so people who make $5 dollars over minimum wage now, will make minimum wage?
How are they getting ahead by being able to go back wards and make minimum wage?
You stupid
.
increasing the minimum wage puts an upward pressure on wages. wages should be outpacing inflation.Long overdueBut of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
It needs to go to $15 to compensate for a decade without an increase
$15 dollars might be a little high in places like Mississippi and Tennessee, but nearly every where else, it would fit like a glove. $12 dollars is not going to hurt anything in Mississippi except for people who are poor managers of business. A minimum wage as a high as $15 dollars might be ok for Mississippi too.
So what do you do with the people who make $15.00 an hour now? How much are you going to raise their pay, so they are no longer working for minimum wage.
In my current job, I am salaried and work many more hours per week than those I supervise. They just received a nice pay raise to the point where they make almost as much as I do. Because I work extra hours without compensation, our pay per hour is roughly equivalent. How do justify that for those making $15.00 an hour who now realize that the people they once supervised now make the same paycheck they do?
better solutions at lower cost; it is what the dollar menu is for!The price of a hamburger has more than doubled since the minimum wage was last increased over ten years ago.Yeah they ain't gonna pay those illegals fifteen an hour when they can pay them less than eight now them capitalist must live in big mansions and fly jet planes.
Keeping wages low and cost of living high is how the robber barons make their living.
The CEOs are not the cause of this.
If you collected all $8 Million dollars they paid the CEO of McDonalds, and gave it to all the employees, it would be less than $37 per person, per year. Now unless you think that one cent an hour, is going to make a difference in people's lives, then the problem isn't CEO pay.
And additionally, most of that $8 million isn't cash. It's stock, and it's stock the CEO can't sell for years. If you pay your hourly employees in stock they can't sell, they'll be worse off, not better off.
The bottom line is, if you jack up the price of labor, in areas where people are too poor to pay more money for services, then they stop buying the service. If they stop buying the service, then people lose their jobs.
The minimum wage is always zero.
When you raise the minimum wage, you increase low wage workers ability to buy more products and services. That actually provides a better boost for economic growth than tax cuts for people making over $100,000 dollars a year who never change the consumer habits when they get a tax cut.
Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
The market adjusted to the rising costs of hamburgers. Nobody was fired
Wow where are all these big Macs that doubled in price?
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Long overdueBut of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
It needs to go to $15 to compensate for a decade without an increase
$15 dollars might be a little high in places like Mississippi and Tennessee, but nearly every where else, it would fit like a glove. $12 dollars is not going to hurt anything in Mississippi except for people who are poor managers of business. A minimum wage as a high as $15 dollars might be ok for Mississippi too.
So what do you do with the people who make $15.00 an hour now? How much are you going to raise their pay, so they are no longer working for minimum wage.
In my current job, I am salaried and work many more hours per week than those I supervise. They just received a nice pay raise to the point where they make almost as much as I do. Because I work extra hours without compensation, our pay per hour is roughly equivalent. How do justify that for those making $15.00 an hour who now realize that the people they once supervised now make the same paycheck they do?
Yes they do out here in the rural areas where there is no labor shortage.But of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
What about the fact that almost no one makes that wage do you not understand?
The facts have been posted in this thread. Hardly anyone makes the current minimum wage. I know that went screaming over your pointy little head. It is no surprise that you either chose not to read it or could not read it because you are a dumbass!
salary all of your workers and don't hire minimum wage labor.I just love how they claim that raising min. wages will increase cost yet have zero problem with the increased cost of goods from tariffs from Trumps policies.The price of a hamburger has more than doubled since the minimum wage was last increased over ten years ago.Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
The market adjusted to the rising costs of hamburgers. Nobody was fired
Wow where are all these big Macs that doubled in price?
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You are eating them
If you are paying tariffs, that is your fault for buying foreign goods.
I just purchased a large amount of flooring for my home. The type I originally wanted was made n China and is subject to the tariff. I just bought American made for the same price as the Chinese made flooring and got a vastly superior product for the same price. That is how tariffs are supposed to work. The tariff made it too expensive for me to buy Chinese. Had I known it was Chinese manufactured, I never would have wanted it in the first place.
Creating a business requires some planning. Planning for cheap, labor from inception is the difference.Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages. He did not complain about minimum wages. Employers who can Only make it on Cheap labor in a first world economy need to fail.View attachment 264072
A Heritage Foundation analysis from 2016 estimated that a $15 federal minimum wage would wipe out 7 million jobs. Hardest hit would be workers, businesses, and economies in areas with low costs of living. (like Mississippi where cost of living is 87% of USA standard.
Mississippi cost of living is 87.8% Mississippi Cost of Living
Liberal activists demand a “living wage,” but the truth is that only a tiny handful of hourly wage workers make the minimum wage or less (4 percent), according to the Employment Policies Institute. On the contrary, a whopping 44 percent of hourly workers currently earn at or below the proposed $15 minimum wage.
Now consider what the $15 minimum wage would do.
For a restaurant that employs 10 minimum wage workers, a $15 minimum wage hike would cost them about $170,000 per year. If the restaurant currently earns profit margins of 5 percent, it would have to increase sales by $3.5 million per year, or an extra $67,000 every week.
But that is not realistic. The likely scenario is that they’ll either have to cut working hours or fire some workers altogether. Either way, most people are worse off than before.
Lawmakers Are Pushing a $15 Minimum Wage. Here Are 3 Disastrous Consequences That Would Result.
Robotic waiters...
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This again. You do realize, don't you, that by extension you are saying that the employees of those companies need to be out of work? Let's put this in perspective.
Usain Bolt can run a 100 meters in 9.58 seconds. Why can't you?
World class plastic surgeons can make millions. Why can't General Practioners?
Donald Trump can buy and fly in his own private jet. Why can't you?
It may not be reasonable for everyone but it is hard not to hope for those to get at least 15 dollars
Amazon and Disney has minimum wage to 15 dollars
If McDonald's can afford to give its shareholders $7.7 billion, it can afford to pay all its workers $15 an hour."
Hard to argue that point
According to one study, U.S. taxpayers are subsidizing the low pay at McDonald's to the tune of $1.2 billion a year.
hard to argue that point
In-And-Out starts at 13 dollars
people
Target says that it will go to 13 dollars
Costco 14 dollars
Walmart and CVS 11 dollars
People need the money and it will allow them to give their kids more opportunities to succeed if they can manage their money
If the lower wage states do not keep up with the high end states then so be it.
There are consequences as young people will leave
But then again older people who have had some success and ready to move on will move back
Okay, a couple of things.
It's easy to argue with "If McDonald's can afford to give its shareholders $7.7 billion, it can afford to pay all its workers $15 an hour." You know how? McDonald's isn't paying those workers; the small business owner franchisee running THAT PARTICULAR RESTAURANT is paying them. McDonald's, the large corporation with the shareholders to which the dividends are paid, doesn't actually make and sell burgers, you know. It makes its money off of selling franchises and collecting rents and fees from the franchisees. So you're conflating two completely different sets of people there.
And artificially inflating the minimum wage doesn't give anyone "more opportunities", unless you consider collecting welfare because all the jobs dried up as small businesses closed to be an "opportunity".
Plus ignorant of business people don't seem to realize that raising to $15.00 means actually in one year for McDonald's 218,000 employees McDonalds' franchise owners
will pay nearly another $500 million in payroll taxes...i.e. 6.2% of $15.00 x 40 x 218,000 x 52 weeks.
McDonalds had no problem paying their workers the equivalent of $12.00 dollars an hour in 1968 when you adjust for inflation. Sales and profits were GREAT for McDonalds in 1968. THE BIG MAC was introduced to the McDonalds menu in 1968!
MAKE MCDONALDS GREAT AGAIN! Make sure their workers are at least making what they did in 1968, which was $12 DOLLARS and hour when adjusted for inflation!
Most McDonald's workers in 1968 probably knew how to work. Today, anything more than pushing a button is bound to lead to an emotional breakdown!
there is too much "social horror" for the right wing to bear, if the Poor may benefit.ExactlyI just love how they claim that raising min. wages will increase cost yet have zero problem with the increased cost of goods from tariffs from Trumps policies.The price of a hamburger has more than doubled since the minimum wage was last increased over ten years ago.Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
The market adjusted to the rising costs of hamburgers. Nobody was fired
Wow where are all these big Macs that doubled in price?
.
You are eating them
Let the market bear the cost of increased prices due to tariffs.
But to expect the market to bear the cost of increased wages enrages them
Where I lived, Illinois, the minimum wage for McDonald Employees was a hell of a lot lower than that in 1979 so no way in hell it was higher than that in 1968.Yeah they ain't gonna pay those illegals fifteen an hour when they can pay them less than eight now them capitalist must live in big mansions and fly jet planes.
Keeping wages low and cost of living high is how the robber barons make their living.
The CEOs are not the cause of this.
If you collected all $8 Million dollars they paid the CEO of McDonalds, and gave it to all the employees, it would be less than $37 per person, per year. Now unless you think that one cent an hour, is going to make a difference in people's lives, then the problem isn't CEO pay.
And additionally, most of that $8 million isn't cash. It's stock, and it's stock the CEO can't sell for years. If you pay your hourly employees in stock they can't sell, they'll be worse off, not better off.
The bottom line is, if you jack up the price of labor, in areas where people are too poor to pay more money for services, then they stop buying the service. If they stop buying the service, then people lose their jobs.
The minimum wage is always zero.
When you raise the minimum wage, you increase low wage workers ability to buy more products and services. That actually provides a better boost for economic growth than tax cuts for people making over $100,000 dollars a year who never change the consumer habits when they get a tax cut.
Well, except the fact that those products and services now cost more because dumbasses like you raised the minimum wage! It is like a dog chasing its tail!
Not necessarily. Business price their products and services based on DEMAND, not on the cost of doing business. Business's did just fine paying $12 dollars an hour minimum wage in 1968. They will be just fine paying that minimum wage in 2019.
It may not be reasonable for everyone but it is hard not to hope for those to get at least 15 dollars
Amazon and Disney has minimum wage to 15 dollars
If McDonald's can afford to give its shareholders $7.7 billion, it can afford to pay all its workers $15 an hour."
Hard to argue that point
According to one study, U.S. taxpayers are subsidizing the low pay at McDonald's to the tune of $1.2 billion a year.
hard to argue that point
In-And-Out starts at 13 dollars
people
Target says that it will go to 13 dollars
Costco 14 dollars
Walmart and CVS 11 dollars
People need the money and it will allow them to give their kids more opportunities to succeed if they can manage their money
If the lower wage states do not keep up with the high end states then so be it.
There are consequences as young people will leave
But then again older people who have had some success and ready to move on will move back
Okay, a couple of things.
It's easy to argue with "If McDonald's can afford to give its shareholders $7.7 billion, it can afford to pay all its workers $15 an hour." You know how? McDonald's isn't paying those workers; the small business owner franchisee running THAT PARTICULAR RESTAURANT is paying them. McDonald's, the large corporation with the shareholders to which the dividends are paid, doesn't actually make and sell burgers, you know. It makes its money off of selling franchises and collecting rents and fees from the franchisees. So you're conflating two completely different sets of people there.
And artificially inflating the minimum wage doesn't give anyone "more opportunities", unless you consider collecting welfare because all the jobs dried up as small businesses closed to be an "opportunity".
Plus ignorant of business people don't seem to realize that raising to $15.00 means actually in one year for McDonald's 218,000 employees McDonalds' franchise owners
will pay nearly another $500 million in payroll taxes...i.e. 6.2% of $15.00 x 40 x 218,000 x 52 weeks.
McDonalds had no problem paying their workers the equivalent of $12.00 dollars an hour in 1968 when you adjust for inflation. Sales and profits were GREAT for McDonalds in 1968. THE BIG MAC was introduced to the McDonalds menu in 1968!
MAKE MCDONALDS GREAT AGAIN! Make sure their workers are at least making what they did in 1968, which was $12 DOLLARS and hour when adjusted for inflation!
Most McDonald's workers in 1968 probably knew how to work. Today, anything more than pushing a button is bound to lead to an emotional breakdown!
In 1968, most McD's workers were teenagers. Entry level jobs were great training for teenagers to learn a good work ethic. These jobs were never meant to enable someone to support a family.
Okay, a couple of things.
It's easy to argue with "If McDonald's can afford to give its shareholders $7.7 billion, it can afford to pay all its workers $15 an hour." You know how? McDonald's isn't paying those workers; the small business owner franchisee running THAT PARTICULAR RESTAURANT is paying them. McDonald's, the large corporation with the shareholders to which the dividends are paid, doesn't actually make and sell burgers, you know. It makes its money off of selling franchises and collecting rents and fees from the franchisees. So you're conflating two completely different sets of people there.
And artificially inflating the minimum wage doesn't give anyone "more opportunities", unless you consider collecting welfare because all the jobs dried up as small businesses closed to be an "opportunity".
Plus ignorant of business people don't seem to realize that raising to $15.00 means actually in one year for McDonald's 218,000 employees McDonalds' franchise owners
will pay nearly another $500 million in payroll taxes...i.e. 6.2% of $15.00 x 40 x 218,000 x 52 weeks.
McDonalds had no problem paying their workers the equivalent of $12.00 dollars an hour in 1968 when you adjust for inflation. Sales and profits were GREAT for McDonalds in 1968. THE BIG MAC was introduced to the McDonalds menu in 1968!
MAKE MCDONALDS GREAT AGAIN! Make sure their workers are at least making what they did in 1968, which was $12 DOLLARS and hour when adjusted for inflation!
Most McDonald's workers in 1968 probably knew how to work. Today, anything more than pushing a button is bound to lead to an emotional breakdown!
In 1968, most McD's workers were teenagers. Entry level jobs were great training for teenagers to learn a good work ethic. These jobs were never meant to enable someone to support a family.
That's not the point. Those teenagers in 1968 were being payed $12 dollars an hour at those minimum wage jobs. In 2019, regardless of your age, if you make only minimum wage, your only making $7.25 an hour. The minimum wage should be at least what it was in 1968 when people were paid $12 dollars an hour!
I think minimum wage was around $1.50 in 1968Long overdueBut of course those favoring the $15/hr nationally are also truly ignorant believing one size fits all.
Well, that is what the minimum wage is. The minimum wage is currently $7.25 an hour. It needs to be raised to at least $12 dollars an hour even in low cost living places like Mississippi and Tennessee.
It needs to go to $15 to compensate for a decade without an increase
$15 dollars might be a little high in places like Mississippi and Tennessee, but nearly every where else, it would fit like a glove. $12 dollars is not going to hurt anything in Mississippi except for people who are poor managers of business. A minimum wage as a high as $15 dollars might be ok for Mississippi too.
Sorry, are you actually demanding that we treat this like a serious, incisive commentary to rebut? "It's not going to hurt anything, because I say so!" Really? That's it? That's all you've got? You have decided that these wages are good, and that's it?
No, its based on the fact that business's, LARGE OR SMALL, payed a minimum wage of $12 dollars back in 1968. Not only were their no problems, business thrived, and unemployment was even lower than it is now! The FACT, that Business's payed $12 dollars an hour minimum wage in 1968 without any problems PROVES that they can do the same in 2019!
