Donald Trump Is a Threat to Democracy, and Saying So Is Not Incitement

[Delldude]

Alot of the swamp slithered out with him.

I see you bought the propaganda. The swamp dominated His cabinet to keep Him in check.

 

[Oddball]

Kinda hard to have a mocracy when one side is trying to murder the other side's candidate.

 

[daveman]

"Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. That was true before an assassination attempt was foiled at his golf course Sunday, and it remains true after. Political violence in general, and assassinating presidential candidates specifically, also poses risks to democracy.

There is no contradiction between these ideas whatsoever. Yet Trump’s supporters have responded to both attempts on his life by muddying the waters, exploiting the near-tragedies with cynical efforts to redefine critiques of Trump’s authoritarian inclinations as violent provocation.
[…]
There is a more serious conceptual problem with the argument that denouncing Trump as a threat to democracy inspired violence: It ignores the truth or falsity of the matter. Taken at face value, the argument implies that we cannot say a presidential candidate threatens democracy even if he plainly does. A party could nominate a candidate who openly promises to end elections and imprison all his critics, and the opposing party would be prevented from describing this candidate as a threat to democracy for fear of inspiring assassination attempts...”

Donald Trump Is a Threat to Democracy, and Saying So Is Not Incitement

Opposing political violence does not mean ignoring authoritarianism.

nymag.com

Republicans need to stop lying that appropriate, factual, warranted criticism of Trump is somehow ‘inciting’ violence against Trump.

If Democrats could convince people their cause is the right way ahead using facts, logic, and reason, you wouldn't have to resort to fear-mongering and violence.

 

[Oddball]

 

[daveman]

Trump is the SWAMP.

NO U is not the scathing rebuttal you believe it is.

 

[Cellblock2429]

He tried to be, unfortunately for him America was tired of the swamp and voted his ass out.

/—-/ That’s not how the Swamp works, Dummy.
In political terms, the "swamp" refers to a metaphorical representation of Washington's political environment, often associated with corruption, special interests, and long-standing politicians. The phrase "drain the swamp" is used to signify the removal of harmful elements like corruption and government waste from the political system.

 

[ThisIsMe]

"Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. That was true before an assassination attempt was foiled at his golf course Sunday, and it remains true after. Political violence in general, and assassinating presidential candidates specifically, also poses risks to democracy.

There is no contradiction between these ideas whatsoever. Yet Trump’s supporters have responded to both attempts on his life by muddying the waters, exploiting the near-tragedies with cynical efforts to redefine critiques of Trump’s authoritarian inclinations as violent provocation.
[…]
There is a more serious conceptual problem with the argument that denouncing Trump as a threat to democracy inspired violence: It ignores the truth or falsity of the matter. Taken at face value, the argument implies that we cannot say a presidential candidate threatens democracy even if he plainly does. A party could nominate a candidate who openly promises to end elections and imprison all his critics, and the opposing party would be prevented from describing this candidate as a threat to democracy for fear of inspiring assassination attempts...”

Donald Trump Is a Threat to Democracy, and Saying So Is Not Incitement

Opposing political violence does not mean ignoring authoritarianism.

nymag.com

Republicans need to stop lying that appropriate, factual, warranted criticism of Trump is somehow ‘inciting’ violence against Trump.

You all are the ones who said repubs using words like “fight” was inciting violence (even though everyone uses that word). You all are the ones who say Trump is inciting violence by simply speaking. Such as the Haitian situation, though trump never called for violence, you claim that his statements are what is inciting the violence toward them, so, absolutely when you say “Trump is a threat to democracy”, that is a call to violence. It’s what you all would say about the right…right?

 

[daveman]

Shut up. Before condemning nonexistent immigrants who eat pets there, why don't you take care of the "stranger in a strange land."

Why don't you? How many illegals have you invited into your neighborhood?

Or are you just being generous only with other people's lives and livelihoods?

 

[daveman]

Why?

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Because with the threat of Trump looming, Democrats get more Communist and Fascist.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So you don't think this drumbeat would have any effect on the less stable members of your cult?

• Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
• Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."
• Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
• Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."
• Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."
• Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."
• Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
• Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
• Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."
• Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
• Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
• Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."
• Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."
• Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
• Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
• Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
• Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"
• Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
• Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
• Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
• Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
• Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."
• Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
• Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
• Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."
• Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
• Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
• Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."
• Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."
• Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."
• Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
• Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."
• Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."

Yep, there has been a lot of inciteful rhetoric from the left. You should hear the progressive radio shows I listen to, they are just as bad.

 

[Delldude]

Because with the threat of Trump looming, Democrats get more Communist and Fascist.

Their default positions.

 

[ThisIsMe]

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Oh, the left are hateful as well, though they won’t admit it, they are every bit, if not more hateful than the right

 

[fncceo]

Donald Trump is a threat to democracy

Then don’t vote for him.

I will vote for him.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I see you bought the propaganda. The swamp dominated His cabinet to keep Him in check.

No, I didn't buy the propaganda, that's why I saw who the leader of the swamp was.

/—-/ That’s not how the Swamp works, Dummy.
In political terms, the "swamp" refers to a metaphorical representation of Washington's political environment, often associated with corruption, special interests, and long-standing politicians. The phrase "drain the swamp" is used to signify the removal of harmful elements like corruption and government waste from the political system.

Dumbass Trump is the epitome of corruption. Well the swamp was drained of corruption and gov't waste when Trump was shown the door.

 

[daveman]

No, I didn't buy the propaganda, that's why I saw who the leader of the swamp was.

Dumbass Trump is the epitome of corruption. Well the swamp was drained of corruption and gov't waste when Trump was shown the door.

What a good Democrat you are!

SPOILER ALERT: That is not a compliment.

 

[lafayette]

Why don't you? How many illegals have you invited into your neighborhood?

Or are you just being generous only with other people's lives and livelihoods?

I donate to the food banks weekly. I serve down at the Catholic Church on the soup line. I would serve you. I do this for American and immigrant and MAGA.

You have a soul though you don't know it.

 

[daveman]

I donate to the food banks weekly. I serve down at the Catholic Church on the soup line. I would serve you. I do this for American and immigrant and MAGA.

You have a soul though you don't know it.

Oh, I am quite familiar with my soul.

And I appreciate what you do for your community. Sincerely.

 

[fncceo]

I donate to the food banks weekly. I serve down at the Catholic Church on the soup line.

Uh huh.

 

[1srelluc]

"Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. That was true before an assassination attempt was foiled at his golf course Sunday, and it remains true after. Political violence in general, and assassinating presidential candidates specifically, also poses risks to democracy.

There is no contradiction between these ideas whatsoever. Yet Trump’s supporters have responded to both attempts on his life by muddying the waters, exploiting the near-tragedies with cynical efforts to redefine critiques of Trump’s authoritarian inclinations as violent provocation.
[…]
There is a more serious conceptual problem with the argument that denouncing Trump as a threat to democracy inspired violence: It ignores the truth or falsity of the matter. Taken at face value, the argument implies that we cannot say a presidential candidate threatens democracy even if he plainly does. A party could nominate a candidate who openly promises to end elections and imprison all his critics, and the opposing party would be prevented from describing this candidate as a threat to democracy for fear of inspiring assassination attempts...”

Donald Trump Is a Threat to Democracy, and Saying So Is Not Incitement

Opposing political violence does not mean ignoring authoritarianism.

nymag.com

Republicans need to stop lying that appropriate, factual, warranted criticism of Trump is somehow ‘inciting’ violence against Trump.

I smell dem desperation.....nevermind the deflection.

 

[buttercup]

/—-/ Trump is a threat to the Swamp.

lol. I'm sorry, but he's not. He's controlled opposition.

After Trump's famous "drain the swamp" claim, he appointed some of the Swampiest Swamp Creatures of all.

Wilbur Ross, Alex Azar, John Bolton, just to name a few. And tons of lobbyists and insiders.

I know this is an unpopular thing to say on this site, but Trump is not a conservative or a true patriot, I've been saying since the start that he's playing a role. Sadly, these days no one is allowed to the highest office of the land without being "in the club."