Dr Judith Curry: Sea level rise/fall not associated with CO2!!!

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More losing for the AGW phonies.............

"Global values of sea level rise have essentially no use in coastal planning; rather they seem mainly relevant in terms of motivating ‘action’ on carbon mitigation policy.

Sea level will continue to rise, no matter what we do about CO2 emissions. We need creative solutions – one of my favorites remains the
garbage solution."



Is sea level rise accelerating?
 
Curry in her blog from 2013

Week in review
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This shift and the subsequent slight cooling trend provides a rationale for inferring a slight cooling trend over the next decade or so, rather than a flat trend from the 15 yr ‘pause’.
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That was followed by record-breaking heat in 2014 and 2015. It would be difficult to fail harder than Curry with her predictions there. The lesson we learn is that if Curry makes a prediction, it's wisest to assume the opposite will happen.

Denier shill Marc Morano listed all the deniers who predicted imminent cooling in 2013. It's a very long list with all the big names. Very helpful of him, to preserve that record of total denier failure for posterity.

Forget global warming!? Earth undergoing global COOLING since 2002! Climate Scientist Dr. Judith Curry: ‘Attention in the public debate seems to be moving away from the 15-17 year ‘pause’ to the cooling since 2002’
 
Curry in her blog from 2013

Week in review
---
This shift and the subsequent slight cooling trend provides a rationale for inferring a slight cooling trend over the next decade or so, rather than a flat trend from the 15 yr ‘pause’.
---

That was followed by record-breaking heat in 2014 and 2015. It would be difficult to fail harder than Curry with her predictions there. The lesson we learn is that if Curry makes a prediction, it's wisest to assume the opposite will happen.

Denier shill Marc Morano listed all the deniers who predicted imminent cooling in 2013. It's a very long list with all the big names. Very helpful of him, to preserve that record of total denier failure for posterity.

Forget global warming!? Earth undergoing global COOLING since 2002! Climate Scientist Dr. Judith Curry: ‘Attention in the public debate seems to be moving away from the 15-17 year ‘pause’ to the cooling since 2002’
it was? where are those raw figures at that support the warmest evah? we now know that 58 > 62 so dude/dudette, anything is possible don't ya think? But I'll leave the stupid with the stupid on the warmers and their dream on warming. Still haven't explained what the danger is even if the temps were up. But I don't evah expect to get an answer from liars. My money is with Judith being spot on.
 
JC.....check this out. Cracked me up.........."The Gilligan Effect" >>

Ultimately, they found out the Gilligan had been using the stick for something else, like catching lobsters, with a little bit getting broken off each time.

The skipper chased him around the beach, whacking him with his skipper’s hat, but otherwise the Castaways remained high and dry until their eventual rescue.

I think that pretty much explains the Global Warmists methodology as well

20th century mean global sea level rise


This sea rise crap is about as scientific as Gilligans stick method......:coffee:
 
BTW.....who here could just imagine for a moment, Gilligan hanging around chatting with Mamooth, Crick and Matthew having these full day deliberations on global warming............:eusa_dance::funnyface::eusa_dance:
 
Curry in her blog from 2013

Week in review
---
This shift and the subsequent slight cooling trend provides a rationale for inferring a slight cooling trend over the next decade or so, rather than a flat trend from the 15 yr ‘pause’.
---

That was followed by record-breaking heat in 2014 and 2015. It would be difficult to fail harder than Curry with her predictions there. The lesson we learn is that if Curry makes a prediction, it's wisest to assume the opposite will happen.

Denier shill Marc Morano listed all the deniers who predicted imminent cooling in 2013. It's a very long list with all the big names. Very helpful of him, to preserve that record of total denier failure for posterity.

Forget global warming!? Earth undergoing global COOLING since 2002! Climate Scientist Dr. Judith Curry: ‘Attention in the public debate seems to be moving away from the 15-17 year ‘pause’ to the cooling since 2002’



s0n........Im laughing.........the gibberish you post up is about as salient as the residual effects of group navel contemplation.:boobies::boobies:


Denier failure may be a take a bow in the nether regions of the internet matter but in the real world, virtually nobody cares about this stuff!!:coffee: This point of course, I have proven in here many times over with links that decimate!!
 
More losing for the AGW phonies.............

"Global values of sea level rise have essentially no use in coastal planning; rather they seem mainly relevant in terms of motivating ‘action’ on carbon mitigation policy.

Sea level will continue to rise, no matter what we do about CO2 emissions. We need creative solutions – one of my favorites remains the
garbage solution."



Is sea level rise accelerating?

Dr Curry knows how to slam a point home... and make the alarmist look stupid without even trying... give that woman two thumbs up!
 
More losing for the AGW phonies.............

"Global values of sea level rise have essentially no use in coastal planning; rather they seem mainly relevant in terms of motivating ‘action’ on carbon mitigation policy.

Sea level will continue to rise, no matter what we do about CO2 emissions. We need creative solutions – one of my favorites remains the
garbage solution."



Is sea level rise accelerating?

Dr Curry knows how to slam a point home... and make the alarmist look stupid without even trying... give that woman two thumbs up!



Been saying for 10 years......the AGW people need a Plan B. Translation? Get off the whole alarmist stuff and maybe theyd get somewhere with their efforts at pushing for substantive change in the world.....in 10 years, they've barely moved the ball a yard. IDK....don't think these people cant help themselves. Its all meltdown, all the time. Meanwhile, it is very evident that Curry's level headed approach has been embraced by most of the worlds population as evidenced in all the polls.:bye1:
 
Hmmm.........lost track of this one. Quite the assertion from one of the leading climate experts in the entire world!!:2up:

Of course, the climate science radicals hate her now..........used to love her..........but when she dropped out of the religion, they now all throw her under the bus.:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
 
More losing for the AGW phonies.............

"Global values of sea level rise have essentially no use in coastal planning; rather they seem mainly relevant in terms of motivating ‘action’ on carbon mitigation policy.

Sea level will continue to rise, no matter what we do about CO2 emissions. We need creative solutions – one of my favorites remains the
garbage solution."



Is sea level rise accelerating?
Temperature-driven global sea-level variability in the Common Era

Significance

We present the first, to our knowledge, estimate of global sea-level (GSL) change over the last ∼3,000 years that is based upon statistical synthesis of a global database of regional sea-level reconstructions. GSL varied by ∼±8 cm over the pre-Industrial Common Era, with a notable decline over 1000–1400 CE coinciding with ∼0.2 °C of global cooling. The 20th century rise was extremely likely faster than during any of the 27 previous centuries. Semiempirical modeling indicates that, without global warming, GSL in the 20th century very likely would have risen by between −3 cm and +7 cm, rather than the ∼14 cm observed. Semiempirical 21st century projections largely reconcile differences between Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change projections and semiempirical models.

Abstract
We assess the relationship between temperature and global sea-level (GSL) variability over the Common Era through a statistical metaanalysis of proxy relative sea-level reconstructions and tide-gauge data. GSL rose at 0.1 ± 0.1 mm/y (2σ) over 0–700 CE. A GSL fall of 0.2 ± 0.2 mm/y over 1000–1400 CE is associated with ∼0.2 °C global mean cooling. A significant GSL acceleration began in the 19th century and yielded a 20th century rise that is extremely likely (probability P≥0.95" role="presentation" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline-style: none; font-family: inherit; line-height: normal; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; word-spacing: normal; word-wrap: normal; white-space: nowrap; float: none; direction: ltr; max-width: none; max-height: none; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; position: relative;">P≥0.95P≥0.95) faster than during any of the previous 27 centuries. A semiempirical model calibrated against the GSL reconstruction indicates that, in the absence of anthropogenic climate change, it is extremely likely (P=0.95" role="presentation" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline-style: none; font-family: inherit; line-height: normal; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; word-spacing: normal; word-wrap: normal; white-space: nowrap; float: none; direction: ltr; max-width: none; max-height: none; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; position: relative;">P=0.95P=0.95) that 20th century GSL would have risen by less than 51% of the observed 13.8±1.5" role="presentation" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline-style: none; font-family: inherit; line-height: normal; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; word-spacing: normal; word-wrap: normal; white-space: nowrap; float: none; direction: ltr; max-width: none; max-height: none; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; position: relative;">13.8±1.513.8±1.5 cm. The new semiempirical model largely reconciles previous differences between semiempirical 21st century GSL projections and the process model-based projections summarized in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Fifth Assessment Report.

Future sea level rise constrained by observations and long-term commitment

Abstract
Sea level has been steadily rising over the past century, predominantly due to anthropogenic climate change. The rate of sea level rise will keep increasing with continued global warming, and, even if temperatures are stabilized through the phasing out of greenhouse gas emissions, sea level is still expected to rise for centuries. This will affect coastal areas worldwide, and robust projections are needed to assess mitigation options and guide adaptation measures. Here we combine the equilibrium response of the main sea level rise contributions with their last century's observed contribution to constrain projections of future sea level rise. Our model is calibrated to a set of observations for each contribution, and the observational and climate uncertainties are combined to produce uncertainty ranges for 21st century sea level rise. We project anthropogenic sea level rise of 28–56 cm, 37–77 cm, and 57–131 cm in 2100 for the greenhouse gas concentration scenarios RCP26, RCP45, and RCP85, respectively. Our uncertainty ranges for total sea level rise overlap with the process-based estimates of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The “constrained extrapolation” approach generalizes earlier global semiempirical models and may therefore lead to a better understanding of the discrepancies with process-based projections.

These are the papers that Dr. Curry refers to.

Is sea level rise accelerating?

New PNAS papers

The current buzz surrounding sea level rise is associated with two papers just published in PNAS:

Temperature driven global sea level variability in the Common Era by Kopp et al. of Rutgers University, published in PNAS.

Future sea level rise constrained by observations and long-term commitment by Mengel et al., published in PNAS
 
Forget global warming!? Earth undergoing global COOLING since 2002! Climate Scientist Dr. Judith Curry: ‘Attention in the public debate seems to be moving away from the 15-17 year ‘pause’ to the cooling since 2002’

Professor Judith Curry of, the chair, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, on June 14, 2013: “Attention in the public debate seems to be moving away from the 15-17 year ‘pause’ to the cooling since 2002 (note: I am receiving inquiries about this from journalists). This period since 2002 is scientifically interesting, since it coincides with the ‘climate shift’ circa 2001/2002 posited by Tsonis and others. This shift and the subsequent slight cooling trend provides a rationale for inferring a slight cooling trend over the next decade or so, rather than a flat trend from the 15 yr ‘pause’.”

Climate Depot Note:

Many scientists in recent years have noted the recent global cooling and predicted many years to decades to centuries of more global cooling. Below is a sampling of scientists and studies on global cooling.

UW-Milwaukee Professor’s Peer-Reviewed Study Predicts 50 Years of Global Cooling – January 2010: ‘A University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee professor is making headlines for his work suggesting the world is entering a period of global cooling. “Now we’re getting a break,” Anastasios Tsonis, Distinguished Professor of Mathematics at UWM, said in an interview with the MacIver Institute. Tsonis published a paper last March that found the world goes through periods of warming and cooling that tend to last thirty years. He says we are now in a period of cooling that could last up to fifty years.

Atmospheric Scientist Tsonis on record cold: ‘It just isn’t true to say this is a blip. We can expect colder winters for quite a while’ — Tsonis was flooded with ‘hate emails’ after 2009 peer-reviewed study predicting ’20 or 30 years of cooler temperatures’ — ‘People were accusing me of wanting to destroy the climate, yet all I’m interested in is the truth’

Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: ‘We could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years’

New Study: Russian Astrophysicist from Russian Academy of Science Predicts Global Cooling: ‘From 2014 we can expect start of deep cooling with a Little Ice Age in 2055′ — Habibullo I. Abdussamatov, Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Science, St. Petersburg, 196140, Russia — Applied Physics Research, Vol. 4, No. 1 February 2012: Abstract: ‘We can expect the onset of a deep bicentennial minimum of total solar irradiance (TSI) in approximately 2042±11 and the 19th deep minimum of global temperature in the past 7500 years – in 2055±11.’

Flashback Sept. 2009: ‘Sun Sleeps’: Danish Solar Scientist Svensmark declares ‘global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning…enjoy global warming while it lasts’

Global Cooling Coming? Aussie Scientist David Archibald uses solar and surface data to predict 4.9°C fall — ‘Normal solar cycles are 11 years long, but the current one (cycle 24) is shaping up to be 17 years (unusually long), and using historical data from the US, David predicts a 2.1°C decline over Solar Cycle 24 followed by a further 2.8°C over Solar Cycle 25. That adds up to a whopping 4.9°C fall in temperate latitudes over the next 20 years. We can only hope he’s wrong’

Prominent geologist warns ‘global COOLING is almost a slam dunk’ for up to 30 years or more — ‘There is no single piece of real evidence that points to CO2′ as driving temps — Dr. Don Easterbrook: ‘We’ve had 27 climate changes in the last 400 years: warm, cold, warm, cold. There have been four in this past century that have nothing to do with CO2, because CO2 wasn’t a factor hundreds of thousands of years ago. We know that those are not at all related to CO2. So why would we expect climate change today to be related to CO2?’

AUSTRALIAN SCIENTIST PREDICTS GLOBAL COOLING: “SUN IS THE MAJOR CONTROL OF CLIMATE; LOOK FOR COOLING’ — ‘Prof. Cliff Ollier of the School of Earth & Env. Studies, U, of Western Australia, recently presented a paper in Poznan, Poland, in which he described the sun as the major control of climate, but not through greenhouse gases.”There is a very good correlation of sunspots and climate. Solar cycles provide a basis for prediction. Solar Cycle 24 has started and we can expect serious cooling. Many think that political decisions about climate are based on scientific predictions but what politicians get are projections based on computer models. The UN’s main adviser, the IPCC, uses adjusted data for the input, their models and codes remain secret, and they do not accept responsibility for their projections.” Download paper here

New paper finds that a solar proton event could cause global cooling of more than 3C — Paper published today in Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics — Study finds that ‘a solar proton event, if it took place in the near future with an intensity similar to that ascribed to the Carrington Event of 1859, must be expected to have a major impact on atmospheric composition throughout the middle atmosphere, resulting in significant and persistent decrease in total ozone,’ resulting in a ‘significant [global] cooling of more than 3C’

Famed hurricane forecaster Dr. William Gray predicts global cooling over next 20 years

LOL This is how scientists become non-credible sources.
 
Curry in her blog from 2013

Week in review
---
This shift and the subsequent slight cooling trend provides a rationale for inferring a slight cooling trend over the next decade or so, rather than a flat trend from the 15 yr ‘pause’.
---

That was followed by record-breaking heat in 2014 and 2015. It would be difficult to fail harder than Curry with her predictions there. The lesson we learn is that if Curry makes a prediction, it's wisest to assume the opposite will happen.

Denier shill Marc Morano listed all the deniers who predicted imminent cooling in 2013. It's a very long list with all the big names. Very helpful of him, to preserve that record of total denier failure for posterity.

Forget global warming!? Earth undergoing global COOLING since 2002! Climate Scientist Dr. Judith Curry: ‘Attention in the public debate seems to be moving away from the 15-17 year ‘pause’ to the cooling since 2002’
it was? where are those raw figures at that support the warmest evah? we now know that 58 > 62 so dude/dudette, anything is possible don't ya think? But I'll leave the stupid with the stupid on the warmers and their dream on warming. Still haven't explained what the danger is even if the temps were up. But I don't evah expect to get an answer from liars. My money is with Judith being spot on.

Very interesting that those "hot" temperatures that always seem to push up the average are in places with the very least instrumental coverage...when they must "fill in"...they always lean to warm...it supports the narrative better than honesty.
 
Once again, the committed warmists discount any information that doesn't conform with the established narrative 100% of the time. Hmmm..........

So I guess these thousands of scientists who say there are other factors with climate change all stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!!:beer:

You wonder why the public is completely disinterested in climate change?:bye1:
 
Semiempirical modeling tells us that the seas rose despite Obama's best efforts to make them recede
 
Curry just took early retirement from Georgia Tech.

She wrote the expected "Everyone in the academic world is a poopyhead for pointing out how badly my science failed!" speech.
 
Dr. Curry seems to have gotten hung up on her ego, rather than the science she should have been doing. Fatal to one's career in research science.
 
Well obviously, her science and the science of her colleagues have had a profound effect.......her stuff threw a monkey wrench into the rigged narrative of the committed climate crusaders. And look at the landscape now? Nobody believes in the AGW theory in 2017..........the ones that do are part of a increasingly small %.:2up: And imagine after President Trump cleans clocks starting in 3 weeks........we are going to be seeing a lot more Dr Judith Curry's in coming years. Or climate research gets no $$:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::bye1:
 

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