toxicmedia
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Perhaps you haven't heard.IMO, the way 2008 turned out had way more to do with Obama, than it did Hillary.At this same time in the Democratic Party primary race, in 2007, Hillary had a 37% share, Obama had 22%, and Edwards had 10 or so %.With the GOP likely nominations coming out, like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, and Marco Rubio...and Fox News focusing on Hillary scandals 24/7...none of the GOP nominees are getting closer to Hillary.
I planned to vote Republican in 2016, no matter who they nominate (except Ted Cruz or Ben Carson) because I want to see the Republicans get an unopposed shot at governing.
I hope the GOP has more tricks up their sleeves, or we're going to see 2016-2020 full of vetos by the President, and more dysfunction in Washington
Gee as I recall Hillary was a shoe in back in 2008. A shoe in until her party decided to throw her under the bus for the half black guy.
Hillary isn't fit to be POTUS anymore than the boy king was.
Her handling of Benghazi showed the world just how unqualified that bitch is.
I do have a job she could probably handle though. It concerns the rear end of my horse. I'm sure she could shovel shit. She's been doing it for years.
Right now, Hillary has 62%, and no other Democratic challengers have even 10%.
Right now, in 2007, the last time no incumbents were in the Presidential race, Democrats at Republicans were only 2-5 points ahead or behind the likely other challengers...not 5-15, like the GOP candidates are with Hillary.
The only way the GOP can fight this exceptional situation, is to downplay it as normal
And it's far from that.
But, 2008 was supposed to be a coronation for Hillary too, remember? She had played the game for a very long time, had survived all the scandals, had been the supportive wife through all the infidelities, real or unreal, and had managed to keep her nose clean in the Senate. She had paid her dues. It was her turn. It was her time.
And yet an imminently mostly unknown, inexperienced, unqualified, and untested young upstart named Barack Hussein Obama took it all away.
I don't think Hillary has much in the way of grass roots support really. She is just the only Democrat running against a Democrat opposition that is more unattractive than she is.
So of course, being the only option, she is chosen as the Democrat that is running while the GOP is much more diluted. She may indeed pull it out if the GOP rips itself apart in the primaries again. But if they can avoid doing that this time, whoever emerges as the GOP choice will almost certainly start pulling numbers much better than the current field is able to do.
The idea of a President that wasn't an old white guy was irresistable to the Democratic base, and they turned out in greater numbers than they usually do. Democrats turning out to vote remains a problem for the GOP in every election.
Hillary's experience in 2008 was first lady, and senator.
Now, it's first lady, senator, and secretary of state. Lot's of low information voters will have that image in their heads of Hillary in the war room when Bin Laden was killed, plus all the instances of her meeting world leaders.
The growing diversity vote in the US will continue to want non old white guys, untill everyone has had their turn, and the diversity voters realize it doesn't matter what color or sex a president is.
Women are next.
Hillary will be the nominee, and ther GOP/Fox will control the messaging and will not allow GOP candidates to tear each other apart this time around. which will stifle publicity. Maybe they should tear each other apart.
The publicity has never been stifled. It has been front and center in all of the MSM. But most of the MSM will utilize the politics of personal destruction to discredit the GOP as they have done for decades now. The GOP candidates will get a lot more 'gotcha' questions, will be given less opportunity to express their message, and the negative coverage will be heavily weighted against them.
Sometimes the coverage will appear 'friendly' or 'favorable' and probably will be rated that way by those groups who track campaign coverage. But if you really pay attention to what is going on, no GOP candidate is going to have any opportunity to show his best side as the Democrats will be able to do.
If you look at media coverage prior to the conventions in 2012, Mitt Romney appeared to get more favorable coverage than Obama. He certainly fared better than any of his opponents. He was the media's choice of GOP candidates.
Once the nomination was a done deal though, all that changed. Now Obama got the most opportunity for 'good looking' photo ops, and Romney much less so.
The GOP's only hope in 2016 is to put up a candidate that the public can get excited about and make sure they don't shoot themselves in the foot with that candidate--again.
Reince Preibus is not allowing primary debates unless they're moderated by Fox News.
Also, why are GOP candidates so much more vulnerable to "gotcha: questions than Democrats are? To someone like Sarah Palin, what her shoe size is, would be a gotcha question.
What you describe as negative coverage, is really negative reactions, from the 1/2 of Americans that Fox News will tell you either doesn't exist, or thinks something else. Romney's failures were Romney's failures. He didn't behave like a real person, and those 47% comments were an antithesis to Obama.
What does the GOP have to bash Hillary with, like the extensive arsenal the Romney campaign had to bash Obama? The economy? no Foreign Policy? no....and please be reasonable, and bear in mind what swing voters and non Fox watching voters will be swayed by. You have to believe what Fox says for it to matter