father and son shoot each other --dead

[Crepitus]

Natural selection does it's job.

And yet you're still around, so I'd say it doesn't.

If it had, there would be far fewer tRump supporters.

 

[2aguy]

...yes--you heard that right--humans just can't get along with each other

Alabama father, son kill each other during confrontation: report

Deputies in Alabama responded Saturday to a shooting that resulted in the deaths of a father and his son, reports said.

www.foxnews.com

Two less tRumplings.

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And then theres the thousand Biden voters shooting each other in Chicago. We win

Gangsters in whatever city rarely vote.

Try again.

Wrong...

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: An Unholy Alliance

Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.
The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”
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Our findings:

• While they typically deny it, many public officials—mostly, but not limited to, aldermen, state legislators, and elected judges—routinely seek political support from influential street gangs. Meetings like the ones Baskin organized, for instance, are hardly an anomaly.
• Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.
• In some cases, the partnerships extend beyond the elections in troubling—and possibly criminal—ways, greased by the steady and largely secret flow of money from gang leaders to certain politicians and vice versa. The gangs funnel their largess through opaque businesses, or front companies, and through under-the-table payments. In turn, grateful politicians use their payrolls or campaign funds to hire gang members, pull strings for them to get jobs or contracts, or offer other favors (see“Gangs and Politicians: Prisoner Shuffle”).
• Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

The paradox is that Chicago’s struggle to combat street gangs is being undermined by its own elected officials. And the alliances between lawmakers and lawbreakers raise a troubling question: Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?and how they affect sentencing and prison sentences...

 

[Crepitus]

...yes--you heard that right--humans just can't get along with each other

Alabama father, son kill each other during confrontation: report

Deputies in Alabama responded Saturday to a shooting that resulted in the deaths of a father and his son, reports said.

www.foxnews.com

Two less tRumplings.

View attachment 432595

And then theres the thousand Biden voters shooting each other in Chicago. We win

Gangsters in whatever city rarely vote.

Try again.

Wrong...

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: An Unholy Alliance

Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.
The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”
-----------

Our findings:

• While they typically deny it, many public officials—mostly, but not limited to, aldermen, state legislators, and elected judges—routinely seek political support from influential street gangs. Meetings like the ones Baskin organized, for instance, are hardly an anomaly.
• Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.
• In some cases, the partnerships extend beyond the elections in troubling—and possibly criminal—ways, greased by the steady and largely secret flow of money from gang leaders to certain politicians and vice versa. The gangs funnel their largess through opaque businesses, or front companies, and through under-the-table payments. In turn, grateful politicians use their payrolls or campaign funds to hire gang members, pull strings for them to get jobs or contracts, or offer other favors (see“Gangs and Politicians: Prisoner Shuffle”).
• Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

The paradox is that Chicago’s struggle to combat street gangs is being undermined by its own elected officials. And the alliances between lawmakers and lawbreakers raise a troubling question: Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?and how they affect sentencing and prison sentences...

A. Doesn't even hint at party affiliations.
B. Doesn't say whether there was an actual effect.
C. Doesn't back anything up with evidence, newspaper interviews from criminals are suspect, and both sides of this debate are arguably criminal.

 

[justinacolmena]

My mothers brother shot their daddy then shot himself, he was just 21- this ain't nothing new- their daddy was an abusive alcoholic- so, STFU until you hear the rest of the story- you ass clowns are the absolute, most illiterate and intolerant and judgemental people on the planet acting like your shit don't stink while reeking to high heaven.

Family member died of “gun violence” otherwise unspecified.

Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?and how they affect sentencing and prison sentences...

I don’t want cops ruling my neighborhood. Public servants are not our bosses. They’re not supposed to tell us what to do and what not to do. They’re not supposed to tell us who is allowed to possess firearms and who isn’t. When we’re minding our own business and we aren’t committing crimes, they simply need to leave us alone, mind their own business, and fight crime without being busybodies in other men’s matters.

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

constitutioncenter.org

The 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and...

constitutioncenter.org

Bible Gateway passage: 1 Peter 4:15 - King James Version

But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Gdjjr]

Family member died of “gun violence” otherwise unspecified.

What? I "specified"- my mothers brother shot their daddy then shot himself- don't twist my words to suit your agenda.

The 2nd amendment doesn't need interpreted, except to/for idiots. It clearly states, shall not be infringed- any rube who doesn't comprehend that, regardless of his/her claimed education is dumber than a box of rocks.

 

[justinacolmena]

What? I "specified"- my mothers brother shot their daddy then shot himself- don't twist my words to suit your agenda.

I’m not saying that’s your agenda: but that is the agenda of the left, and that is how they justify it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

That is some redneck shit right there.

I’m sure this has happened in Chicago and many other democrat ghetto shitholes many times. They just had no idea they were father and son.

 

[Quasar44]

Very hard core rednecky stuff