Florida Stand-Your-Ground Repeal Fails

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The problem with SYG laws isn’t the law itself, it’s a perfectly appropriate doctrine consistent with the Constitutional right to self-defense.

The problem is too few gun owners understand what actually constitutes a SYG situation, local law enforcement agencies also lack understanding as to SYG with regard to investigating a self-defense claim, and prosecutors and judges lack sufficient precedent to know when to press charges and how to evaluate the evidence should a SYG case go to trial.

 

[healthmyths]

As expected. Florida is one of the last of the Free States and we don't need liberals telling us how to turn our State into a Utopian Paradise like.... Michigan....

Effort To Repeal Stand-Your-Ground Fails In Florida

HB-4003 Eric Friday, FL Carry (11-7-13) - YouTube

Testimony, like the above from Eric Friday, of Florida Carry, stopped it cold.

Via Legal Insurrection:

Last evening the Florida House conducted a public hearing, judiciary committee debate, and committee vote on HB-4003, which would have done away with Florida’s Stand-Your-Ground law by repealing Florida statute 776.013. Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.

The outcome was that HB-4003 was soundly defeated in committee, thereby ending the effort to repeal Stand-Your-Ground in this year’s legislative session.

776.013 is a multi-part statute that contains not only the primary “Stand-Your-Ground” statute, but also presumptions of reasonable belief of fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm. Thus, if successful, HB-4003 would not only have repealed “Stand-Your-Ground” but also have made it more difficult for law-abiding armed citizens to defend themselves in home invasion, carjacking, and kidnapping scenarios.

HB-4003 was proposed by Rep. Williams, who is not a member of the judiciary committee and therefore not entitled himself to vote on the proposed bill in this setting.



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As usual the "GEC" GROSS EXAGGERATION CROWD get all lathered up and grossly jerked off by ONE situation.. Zimmerman/Martin.
These idiots wanting the repeal seem to be grossly ignorant about THESE FACTS!!!

FACTS!!!
After 8 years and 135 FATAL Stand Your Ground cases in Florida:

44 blacks were accused; 25% convicted; 55% justified ; and 9% pending..
76 whites were accused; 33% convicted; 53% justified; and 11% pending...

By repealing the law, all those blacks found "justified" would be convicted!
Do the idiots that want the law repealed that without the SYG law nearly 22 blacks would be in prison!

Tell me especially the BLACKS want more BLACKS convicted of killing because the "Stand Your Ground" law is repealed!

Stand your ground law, Trayvon Martin and a shocking legacy | Tampa Bay Times

 

[bodecea]

As expected. Florida is one of the last of the Free States and we don't need liberals telling us how to turn our State into a Utopian Paradise like.... Michigan....

Effort To Repeal Stand-Your-Ground Fails In Florida

HB-4003 Eric Friday, FL Carry (11-7-13) - YouTube

Testimony, like the above from Eric Friday, of Florida Carry, stopped it cold.

Via Legal Insurrection:

Last evening the Florida House conducted a public hearing, judiciary committee debate, and committee vote on HB-4003, which would have done away with Florida’s Stand-Your-Ground law by repealing Florida statute 776.013. Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.

The outcome was that HB-4003 was soundly defeated in committee, thereby ending the effort to repeal Stand-Your-Ground in this year’s legislative session.

776.013 is a multi-part statute that contains not only the primary “Stand-Your-Ground” statute, but also presumptions of reasonable belief of fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm. Thus, if successful, HB-4003 would not only have repealed “Stand-Your-Ground” but also have made it more difficult for law-abiding armed citizens to defend themselves in home invasion, carjacking, and kidnapping scenarios.

HB-4003 was proposed by Rep. Williams, who is not a member of the judiciary committee and therefore not entitled himself to vote on the proposed bill in this setting.



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I really don't have any problem with them shooting each other up rather than retreating in the face of scariness......in Florida.

 

[healthmyths]

As expected. Florida is one of the last of the Free States and we don't need liberals telling us how to turn our State into a Utopian Paradise like.... Michigan....

Effort To Repeal Stand-Your-Ground Fails In Florida

HB-4003 Eric Friday, FL Carry (11-7-13) - YouTube

Testimony, like the above from Eric Friday, of Florida Carry, stopped it cold.

Via Legal Insurrection:

Last evening the Florida House conducted a public hearing, judiciary committee debate, and committee vote on HB-4003, which would have done away with Florida’s Stand-Your-Ground law by repealing Florida statute 776.013. Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.

The outcome was that HB-4003 was soundly defeated in committee, thereby ending the effort to repeal Stand-Your-Ground in this year’s legislative session.

776.013 is a multi-part statute that contains not only the primary “Stand-Your-Ground” statute, but also presumptions of reasonable belief of fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm. Thus, if successful, HB-4003 would not only have repealed “Stand-Your-Ground” but also have made it more difficult for law-abiding armed citizens to defend themselves in home invasion, carjacking, and kidnapping scenarios.

HB-4003 was proposed by Rep. Williams, who is not a member of the judiciary committee and therefore not entitled himself to vote on the proposed bill in this setting.



- See more at: Weasel Zippers | Scouring the bowels of the internet | Weasel Zippers

I really don't have any problem with them shooting each other up rather than retreating in the face of scariness......in Florida.

The majority of black rabble rousers are totally ignorant that repealing the law will mean MORE BLACKS IN JAIL!!!

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

do they have their own version of this law in Chicago? and what do they call it?

 

[OriginalShroom]

I love it when the Left Wing Gun Grabbers start pretending they know Gun Laws.

They rarely if ever do and their fountains of misinformation are simply spectacular.

 

[Intolerant]

My glocks and I appreciate this.

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

As usual the "GEC" GROSS EXAGGERATION CROWD get all lathered up and grossly jerked off by ONE situation.. Zimmerman/Martin.
These idiots wanting the repeal seem to be grossly ignorant about THESE FACTS!!!

FACTS!!!
After 8 years and 135 FATAL Stand Your Ground cases in Florida:

44 blacks were accused; 25% convicted; 55% justified ; and 9% pending..
76 whites were accused; 33% convicted; 53% justified; and 11% pending...

By repealing the law, all those blacks found "justified" would be convicted!
Do the idiots that want the law repealed that without the SYG law nearly 22 blacks would be in prison!

Tell me especially the BLACKS want more BLACKS convicted of killing because the "Stand Your Ground" law is repealed!

Stand your ground law, Trayvon Martin and a shocking legacy | Tampa Bay Times

Nice work.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Effort To Repeal Stand-Your-Ground Fails In Florida

Of course it did - SYG simply regognizes the fact that you have as much of a right to defend yourself outside your home as you do in it.
There's no sound argument agianst this premise.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The problem is too few gun owners understand what actually constitutes a SYG situation, local law enforcement agencies also lack understanding as to SYG with regard to investigating a self-defense claim, and prosecutors and judges lack sufficient precedent to know when to press charges and how to evaluate the evidence should a SYG case go to trial.

Please cite credible evidence that backs up your rather general and broad claim.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There's no reason what so ever that the victim should have to be punished. Stand your ground is a good law.

Uh-huh...sure it is. And look who is the next reckless, stupid, irresponsible gun owner to hide behind it:

Florida man pleads not guilty in slaying of teen in loud music dispute
Florida man pleads not guilty in slaying of teen in loud music dispute - CNN.com

(CNN) -- A Florida man charged with murder in the fatal shooting of a teenager amid an argument over loud music at a gas station pleaded not guilty Monday.

Michael Dunn, 45, entered his plea during a hearing Monday morning at the Duval County, Florida, jail.

Dunn told investigators he fired at a car in which Jordan Davis, 17, and three of his friends were sitting because he felt threatened by them. No guns were found inside the teens' car, the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office said.

I wouldn't live down in that redneck cesspool of a state again if you paid me.

Oh, a postscript: The bullets fired, I think about 8 of them, entered the vehicle through the doors. Those kids hadn't even started to get out of their damn car.

It is impossible for you to show how this relates to, and negates the validity of, SYG laws.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

I liked the video too.

 

[FA_Q2]

The problem with SYG laws isn’t the law itself, it’s a perfectly appropriate doctrine consistent with the Constitutional right to self-defense.

The problem is too few gun owners understand what actually constitutes a SYG situation, local law enforcement agencies also lack understanding as to SYG with regard to investigating a self-defense claim, and prosecutors and judges lack sufficient precedent to know when to press charges and how to evaluate the evidence should a SYG case go to trial.

None of that supports changing or repealing those laws though. If that is the real problem then the solution is time and education. Simple as that. As these laws age, the understanding of how they fit into the legal framework will be refined as all other laws do as well.