Freedom of the Press? Not Any More

[TemplarKormac]

You guys are really milking this. It's just a ruse as to interfere with the deportation of illegals.

Nnnnno.

In fact (at least for me) it's a plea for constitutional conservatives to start acting like constitutional conservatives.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So tell me, what due process what he given that wasn't violated by his deportation to a forbidden country under court order?

Anyone? ANYONE?

 

[buttercup]

Moi, a liberal?

My friend, you have no idea what I am. Just because I take a liberal stance on one issue does not necessarily mean I will take a liberal stance on another.

I honestly thought more people around here would appreciate someone who actually took positions on both sides of the political spectrum...

You're being too generous to them, you're not taking a "liberal" stance on this issue. You're taking a constitutional and principled stance... which is what conservatives USED TO be about. These days? It's more about partisanship, sadly.

As I've been saying on other threads... if we play fast and loose with doing things the legal and constitutional way with those we don't like... we're only shooting ourselves in the foot, because that precedent that is set will almost certainly come back to bite us in the arse. That's already happened, and will only get worse if things keep going this way.

 

[Thinker101]

Perhaps, if I actually cared for people who use others as props to feign care for them.

Great, you have something in common with Van Hollen.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're being too generous to them, you're not taking a "liberal" stance on this issue. You're taking a constitutional and principled stance... which is what conservatives USED TO be about. These days? It's more about partisanship, sadly.

As I've been saying on other threads... if we play fast and loose with doing things the legal and constitutional way with those we don't like... we're only shooting ourselves in the foot, because that precedent that is set will almost certainly come back to bite us in the arse. That's already happened, and will only get worse if things keep going this way.

I have said this of both sides.

The law is only convenient to you so long as it supports your point of view. In this case it doesn't.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Great, you have something in common with Van Hollen.

Was that supposed to anger me?

Because I think Van Hollen is a piece of garbage. He only feigns care for votes, not for genuine interest.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It should be a simple question to answer, but nobody wants to answer it.

Well, I guess that's that.

 

[MarcATL]

You used it, explain your version for us. What makes trump and us fascist

Here you go...

https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

Or even...

https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PC-00466.pdf

Do you have a different understanding of the word?

 

[Meister]

Here you go...

https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

Or even...

https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PC-00466.pdf

Do you have a different understanding of the word?

Geeze, Marc, you surprised me, you're talking about the democrats.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I do want him gone, but damn, I want it done right! Same for the rest of them. Batch try them under Title 8 if you need to, but give them due process and get rid of them to wherever they came from!

 

[Lesh]

How free is the Western Press, you fucking dumbass?
How many corporations control it?
Free press died sometime in the 1990s, idiot.

You seem to be confused . Freedom of the press is in regards to the government.. not corporations

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

For the same reason a judge would demand a re-trial due to prosecutorial misconduct.

In this case, the authority violated an order. Thus it invalidates the charge of illegal entry. It has to be retried. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Usually, a judge would not order a mistrial for prosecutorial misconduct. It would be a directed verdict of not guilty.

You are full of shit as per usual. Did you go to the Acme High school of Law?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

His due process was violated because Trump violated a court order forbidding his deportation to El Salvador.

Trump did no such thing. It was an administrative error. The situation that resulted in him that order issued is no longer applicable, as such the order is void.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So tell me, what due process what he given that wasn't violated by his deportation to a forbidden country under court order?

Anyone? ANYONE?

Right a sensible question and you might get an answer. I think you left out some words.

 

[skye]

"fact based reporting" my ass.

You twits are just pissed you're not allowed to make shit up and run with it as much anymore.

Fear not my fucked up little lefty- there are still plenty of lying, lefty, degenerate shitheads left in what you guys call journalism.

That ^^^

 

[TemplarKormac]

Right a sensible question and you might get an answer. I think you left out some words.

Such as?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump did no such thing. It was an administrative error.

An error that wound up violating a court order. That gets it thrown out. It needs to be retried.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

An error that wound up violating a court order. That gets it thrown out. It needs to be retried.

There was no trial, dumbass! he was never accused of anything other than being an illegal. That was all that was required.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Usually, a judge would not order a mistrial for prosecutorial misconduct. It would be a directed verdict of not guilty.

As for this case, the violation of the order could be seen as prosecutorial misconduct (or incompetence). Either way it made due process impossible because the order was violated. The order can no longer be carried out, and the matter of his illegal entry must be tried again.

How many billions of times must I repeat myself?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Such as?

Try reading it and see if it makes sense to you. If it does, something is wrong.