French Police seize huge weapons stockpiles in raids…but…they have gun control..and rocket launchers

[Pete7469]

Yes, because it's the only kind that actually fucking works, obviously.

Indeed, it works really fucking well, obviously!!!

It has been proven in Germany, China, Russia, Cambodia, North Korea...

Oh wait, those governments didn't destroy their guns.

So you have to wonder what example that sniveling turd can provide of a government eradicating all guns from the people and itself.

I can't wait to see how obvious it is that his stupid ideas "work" or have even been tried.

However it's easy to refute his stupid ideas with an example that exists in the real world as opposed to moonbat pipe dreams.

Switzerland.

Everyone has full auto weapons at home, minimal crime.

Checkmate dumbfucks.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes, because it's the only kind that actually fucking works, obviously.

Indeed, it works really fucking well, obviously!!!

Yes, it does. Two gun murders a year in Japan. That would be seven here.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes, because it's the only kind that actually fucking works, obviously.

Switzerland.

Everyone has full auto weapons at home, minimal crime.

And this, total bullshit BTW.

Firearms-Control Legislation and Policy: Switzerland | Law Library of Congress

And their gun control you would call downright fascist.

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/14/the...meme_america_should_be_more_like_switzerland/

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Gun nuts gotta have their guns.

 

[aris2chat]

Seems ISIS and co. were preparing to wage a war on europe.

No all refugees and perhaps muslim residents, mosques and muslim groups need to be revetted and questioned.

Sad but rounding up a large groups and gradually releasing them seems the most prudent way.

Still won't guarantee but it will catch a lot more than letting them all run wild across europe.

Once you propose rounding up innocent people - things become questionable. How much are you willing to sacrifice for the delution of "safety"? The very community you want to round up is the community best able to help law enforcement. Where will they go while being "interogated" - these large groups, families, children? Will they have jobs left when you decide to "let them go"?

Questioning them and double checking their papers and association as well as references and neighbors is within the law. Police can hold anyone for 48 hours while they run back ground checks.

Those who are not citizens can hold for 48 hours, if ICE take custody it can be much longer.

 

[Coyote]

Seems ISIS and co. were preparing to wage a war on europe.

No all refugees and perhaps muslim residents, mosques and muslim groups need to be revetted and questioned.

Sad but rounding up a large groups and gradually releasing them seems the most prudent way.

Still won't guarantee but it will catch a lot more than letting them all run wild across europe.

Once you propose rounding up innocent people - things become questionable. How much are you willing to sacrifice for the delution of "safety"? The very community you want to round up is the community best able to help law enforcement. Where will they go while being "interogated" - these large groups, families, children? Will they have jobs left when you decide to "let them go"?

Questioning them and double checking their papers and association as well as references and neighbors is within the law. Police can hold anyone for 48 hours while they run back ground checks.

Those who are not citizens can hold for 48 hours, if ICE take custody it can be much longer.

You can not round up citizens with no probable cause. It's unconstitutional to round up and interogate every Muslim in the country based solely on their religion.

 

[aris2chat]

Seems ISIS and co. were preparing to wage a war on europe.

No all refugees and perhaps muslim residents, mosques and muslim groups need to be revetted and questioned.

Sad but rounding up a large groups and gradually releasing them seems the most prudent way.

Still won't guarantee but it will catch a lot more than letting them all run wild across europe.

Once you propose rounding up innocent people - things become questionable. How much are you willing to sacrifice for the delution of "safety"? The very community you want to round up is the community best able to help law enforcement. Where will they go while being "interogated" - these large groups, families, children? Will they have jobs left when you decide to "let them go"?

Questioning them and double checking their papers and association as well as references and neighbors is within the law. Police can hold anyone for 48 hours while they run back ground checks.

Those who are not citizens can hold for 48 hours, if ICE take custody it can be much longer.

You can not round up citizens with no probable cause. It's unconstitutional to round up and interogate every Muslim in the country based solely on their religion.

Cause could be anything including terrorism. They can be held 48 hrs with no charges, on any pretext to question them. Terrorism can go beyond just local police but under homeland a much wider range as nation security.

 

[Coyote]

Seems ISIS and co. were preparing to wage a war on europe.

No all refugees and perhaps muslim residents, mosques and muslim groups need to be revetted and questioned.

Sad but rounding up a large groups and gradually releasing them seems the most prudent way.

Still won't guarantee but it will catch a lot more than letting them all run wild across europe.

Once you propose rounding up innocent people - things become questionable. How much are you willing to sacrifice for the delution of "safety"? The very community you want to round up is the community best able to help law enforcement. Where will they go while being "interogated" - these large groups, families, children? Will they have jobs left when you decide to "let them go"?

Questioning them and double checking their papers and association as well as references and neighbors is within the law. Police can hold anyone for 48 hours while they run back ground checks.

Those who are not citizens can hold for 48 hours, if ICE take custody it can be much longer.

You can not round up citizens with no probable cause. It's unconstitutional to round up and interogate every Muslim in the country based solely on their religion.

Cause could be anything including terrorism. They can be held 48 hrs with no charges, on any pretext to question them. Terrorism can go beyond just local police but under homeland a much wider range as nation security.

You can do that in a police state. We are not a police state nor should we move in that direction - it's more dangerous than the alternative.

Even under "terrorism" you can not round up people with based on nothing more than religion. The precedent something like that would set would be horrific - more horrific than a terrorist attack.

 

[aris2chat]

Seems ISIS and co. were preparing to wage a war on europe.

No all refugees and perhaps muslim residents, mosques and muslim groups need to be revetted and questioned.

Sad but rounding up a large groups and gradually releasing them seems the most prudent way.

Still won't guarantee but it will catch a lot more than letting them all run wild across europe.

Once you propose rounding up innocent people - things become questionable. How much are you willing to sacrifice for the delution of "safety"? The very community you want to round up is the community best able to help law enforcement. Where will they go while being "interogated" - these large groups, families, children? Will they have jobs left when you decide to "let them go"?

Questioning them and double checking their papers and association as well as references and neighbors is within the law. Police can hold anyone for 48 hours while they run back ground checks.

Those who are not citizens can hold for 48 hours, if ICE take custody it can be much longer.

You can not round up citizens with no probable cause. It's unconstitutional to round up and interogate every Muslim in the country based solely on their religion.

Cause could be anything including terrorism. They can be held 48 hrs with no charges, on any pretext to question them. Terrorism can go beyond just local police but under homeland a much wider range as nation security.

You can do that in a police state. We are not a police state nor should we move in that direction - it's more dangerous than the alternative.

Even under "terrorism" you can not round up people with based on nothing more than religion. The precedent something like that would set would be horrific - more horrific than a terrorist attack.

This is nothing new nor requires a police state or state of emergency

Justices Say Suspects Can Be Held Up to 48 Hours Without Warrant

Don't they teach the basics of law in this country as part of social studies or something?

Don't most people even watch police or law shows during prime time?

 

[Slyhunter]

…they have every single gun control law that the anti gunners only dream about here…

Not even close...

No. Not that you're willing to admit.

I want total gun control, essentially no guns, for anyone. They aren't necessary.

You are short sighted.

 

[aris2chat]

French imam on day of Paris attacks: Muslims should rule France

 

[2aguy]

"A rocket launcher, flak jackets, several pistols and a Kalashnikov assault rifle were among the cache of weapons seized in Lyon overnight."
Read more: French police launch series of anti-terror raids
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Chicken feed, truly.

And the 10 AKs the killers used….and the bombs they used in addition to what they are now finding all over France…..and around Europe…..right….

The estimate is that there is one AK-47 for every 60 people on earth, 75 to 100 million of the damn things. Oh, but look, these bad bad Muslims had ten of them, in France no less. Whatever will we do.

You wanted lots of guns around, you got it, and the dead bodies to prove it.

Actually, 10 for the actual attackers another 8 captured by the Germans in the car and another bunch in the house.....plus pistols and a rocket launcher and the bombs and vests........so in a country that bans all of that....that is getting close to a big cache....

 

[2aguy]

…they have every single gun control law that the anti gunners only dream about here…

Not even close...

Where do they get this nonsense?

France

Main article: Gun politics in France
In France, to buy a firearm, a hunting licence or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibres, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).

The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms).[95] As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns;[96] one needs a permit for category one[clarification needed] semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds. Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership.

Yes....and Mexico has gun ownership laws on their books too....but only the cartels and the government stooges actually get them....dittos New York.....you can get a gun in New York...if you have lots of money to pay a lawyer.....

 

[2aguy]

What's with the fantasy that being armed would stop attacks/mass shootings?

Paris - dark theater, loud music. Aurora - dark theater, loud music. You're dead before you even remember whether you brought a gun with you.

Most other mass shootings - you're dead before you know the creep is shooting.

Most home invasions - you're dead before you can get the bedside table drawer open.

Canada is armed but they don't have mass shootings.
If guns protected us from attacks and mass shootings, the US would be the safest place in the world.

The nutters fantasize about being Mighty Mouse, swooping down to Save The Day. Truth is, they're terrified to leave home without a gun and wouldn't have the balls to use it anyway.

Sew this on your jacket - right next to your NRA patch.

You don't have any idea what you are talking about...try to actually study these things.....everything you said is pretty much inaccurate...but thanks for trying.

 

[2aguy]

What's with the fantasy that being armed would stop attacks/mass shootings?

Paris - dark theater, loud music. Aurora - dark theater, loud music. You're dead before you even remember whether you brought a gun with you.

Most other mass shootings - you're dead before you know the creep is shooting.

Most home invasions - you're dead before you can get the bedside table drawer open.

Canada is armed but they don't have mass shootings.
If guns protected us from attacks and mass shootings, the US would be the safest place in the world.

The nutters fantasize about being Mighty Mouse, swooping down to Save The Day. Truth is, they're terrified to leave home without a gun and wouldn't have the balls to use it anyway.

Sew this on your jacket - right next to your NRA patch.

Most other mass shootings occur in places you people made into gun free zones.....and home invasions....you really need to look up the stories of actual home defense...you again have no idea what you are talking about....
Mass shootings don't kill many people....it is the democrats in the inner cities shooting each other that accounts for most gun deaths.

 

[2aguy]

What's with the fantasy that being armed would stop attacks/mass shootings?

Paris - dark theater, loud music. Aurora - dark theater, loud music. You're dead before you even remember whether you brought a gun with you.

Most other mass shootings - you're dead before you know the creep is shooting.

Most home invasions - you're dead before you can get the bedside table drawer open.

Canada is armed but they don't have mass shootings.
If guns protected us from attacks and mass shootings, the US would be the safest place in the world.

The nutters fantasize about being Mighty Mouse, swooping down to Save The Day. Truth is, they're terrified to leave home without a gun and wouldn't have the balls to use it anyway.

Sew this on your jacket - right next to your NRA patch.

Yeah...wrong again...

Yep......name another martial art that allows one man to actually defeat 6 other men......at least one of whom is armed with a gun.......

Neighbor Stops Half A Dozen Men With His Concealed Carry Firearm As They Try To Break Into Home | Concealed Nation

HOUSTON, TEXAS — In an incredible show of Good Guy vs. Bad Guys, one neighbor was happy to be carrying his firearm down the street when he happened upon a home invasion.

It happened late Saturday night in a Houston neighborhood when witnesses say 4 to 6 men pulled up in two vehicles and then made their way into a home by force. What they weren’t counting on was an armed citizen who happened to be walking down the street.

A neighbor who was walking on the sidewalk witnessed the incident, pulled his gun and confronted the suspects before shooting one of them. The suspect tried shooting back but missed the neighbor. The suspect died at the scene.

The other suspects jumped into an SUV and fled from the scene.

One person was said to be inside the home at the time of the invasion, and that person was not injured.

If this isn’t a great case for citizens to be armed, I don’t know what is. This man was able to stop and deter half a dozen men from committing a crime at his neighbor’s house.

 

[2aguy]

What's with the fantasy that being armed would stop attacks/mass shootings?

Paris - dark theater, loud music. Aurora - dark theater, loud music. You're dead before you even remember whether you brought a gun with you.

Most other mass shootings - you're dead before you know the creep is shooting.

Most home invasions - you're dead before you can get the bedside table drawer open.

Canada is armed but they don't have mass shootings.
If guns protected us from attacks and mass shootings, the US would be the safest place in the world.

The nutters fantasize about being Mighty Mouse, swooping down to Save The Day. Truth is, they're terrified to leave home without a gun and wouldn't have the balls to use it anyway.

Sew this on your jacket - right next to your NRA patch.

I guess you missed my post on the woman whose door was kicked in while she was feeding her baby....she drove off the attackers with her pistol after they started shooting at her....

 

[2aguy]

How many terrorists were involved in the events last week in France?

10 to 30 or so. And that matters why exactly? Oh right, it doesn't.

You stated above that there is one AK-47/60 people on earth then said there were 10 of them used by the Muslim terrorists. That's a ratio of 1/3 people. I guess you believe 1/3 is OK but 1/60 is wrong.

Eight or so AK-47s killed over a 100 people. That is what they were designed for. Whatever your point is God only knows.

Two points. The 10 held by 30 is a far worse ratio that 1/60. Secondly, there are laws in place in France that you support here that didn't get the job done.

The gun control laws that work are in nations like Japan, period, end of story. Don't even bother to mention any other nation, unless it is also as strict as Japan.

France has plenty of guns around, just like here.

Nope...gun laws don't make Japan work, it is the Japanese attitude that keeps them from committing any crime.......and the police state they live under....that stops gun crime...their culture and their police state.

 

[aris2chat]

so much for gun control

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"A rocket launcher, flak jackets, several pistols and a Kalashnikov assault rifle were among the cache of weapons seized in Lyon overnight."
Read more: French police launch series of anti-terror raids
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Chicken feed, truly.

And the 10 AKs the killers used….and the bombs they used in addition to what they are now finding alluns? No. over France…..and around Europe…..right….

The estimate is that there is one AK-47 for every 60 people on earth, 75 to 100 million of the damn things. Oh, but look, these bad bad Muslims had ten of them, in France no less. Whatever will we do.

You wanted lots of guns around, you got it, and the dead bodies to prove it.

Actually, 10 for the actual attackers another 8 captured by the Germans in the car and another bunch in the house.....plus pistols and a rocket launcher and the bombs and vests........so in a country that bans all of that....that is getting close to a big cache....

France bans guns? No.