Genocidist Arab-Palestinians: PA or Hamas

[Roudy]

Not at all Sir, analogy:

Here are some of the key traits that these have in common, of course they aren't identical but there is no other state in existence today that shares as many commonalities with the former Third Reich as does Israel. Everyone of these is an easily verified fact.

• The Third Reich justified its necessity by a prior national catastrophe - the Versailles Treaty
• The Zionist state justifies its necessity by a prior national catastrophe - the Holocaust, antisemitism
• The Third Reich embraced a doctrine of a superior race - the Aryans
• The Zionist state embrace the doctrine of racial supremacy - the Jews
• The Third Reich embraced a doctrine of territorial entitlement - Poland, Sudetenland...
• The Zionist state embrace the doctrine of territorial entitlement - West Bank, Golan...
• The Third Reich was committed to the destruction of another race - Jews
• The Zionist state is committed to the destruction of another race - Palestinians
• The Third Reich justified its necessity by declaring an existential threat - Bolshevism, Jewry
• The Zionist state justifies its necessity by declaring an existential threat - Islam, Arab nationalism

Given these similarities we must ask ourselves, looking back in time, could the Third Reich have been subdued and pacified through negotiation? and if not does that not imply that Zionist Israel too cannot be subdued by negotiation?

Meh…Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Islamism and nazism.

Hitler's Mufti

Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini.

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Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini. This Grand Mufti of Jerusalem recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.

Revered in some circles today as one of the fathers of modern radical Islam, al-Husseini has been the subject of a number of modern studies. Scholars such as David Dalin, John Rothmann, Chuck Morse, and others have courageously brought al-Husseini’s actions to light. “Hitler’s Mufti,” as many have called him, had a direct hand in some of the darkest moments of the Holocaust, the slaughter of tens of thousands of Christians, and the formation of some of the most hate-filled generations of modern history. Al-Husseini is a testament to the way that evil finds evil.

 

[Roudy]

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‘I’m bored, so I shoot’: The Israeli army’s approval of free-for-all violence in Gaza​

 

[AZrailwhale]

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‘I’m bored, so I shoot’: The Israeli army’s approval of free-for-all violence in Gaza​

What goes around comes around. I don’t approve, but I understand. Savagery begets savagery from the other side. The Islamic terrorist organizations have been targeting Israeli civilians further back than Black September at the 1972 Munich Olympics. Eventually this was going to happen.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The article was written by an experienced Israeli journalist, he personally interviewed several IDF members.

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Just click the image above to get to the complete report.

They were clearly shooting into the air like millions of Islamics do all the time.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

They were clearly shooting into the air like millions of Islamics do all the time.

There is a great deal of racism in some of the posts here, including yours. Islam is no more violent than Christianity, it is just an ideology like any other. The United States carpet bombed Laos killing huge numbers of civilians and leaving the countryside littered with unexploded cluster bombs which to this day kill and main hundreds of children every year.

Christianity has been abused for political purposes starting centuries before Islam even existed.

So stop insinuating that Muslims and Islam is inherently evil when our own nations, our own ideology has been even more destructive and cruel.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Said the defender of Hamas subhuman terrorist animals.

I don't get this angst about Hamas, I mean what's so bad about them?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini. This Grand Mufti of Jerusalem recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.

That's not recent at all, it's been known from the outset.

Revered in some circles today as one of the fathers of modern radical Islam, al-Husseini has been the subject of a number of modern studies. Scholars such as David Dalin, John Rothmann, Chuck Morse, and others have courageously brought al-Husseini’s actions to light. “Hitler’s Mufti,” as many have called him, had a direct hand in some of the darkest moments of the Holocaust, the slaughter of tens of thousands of Christians, and the formation of some of the most hate-filled generations of modern history. Al-Husseini is a testament to the way that evil finds evil.

The Mufti was indeed aligned with Hitler, do you have any idea why?

 

[AZrailwhale]

There is a great deal of racism in some of the posts here, including yours. Islam is no more violent than Christianity, it is just an ideology like any other. The United States carpet bombed Laos killing huge numbers of civilians and leaving the countryside littered with unexploded cluster bombs which to this day kill and main hundreds of children every year.

Christianity has been abused for political purposes starting centuries before Islam even existed.

So stop insinuating that Muslims and Islam is inherently evil when our own nations, our own ideology has been even more destructive and cruel.

Islam is an inherently evil religion. It allows for no other religion to exist. Every human must be a slave to Allah or die. It commands every Muslim to attack infidels in any way possible, it allows Muslims to lie to infidels and calls it a holy act. It allows slavery, rape, stoning, permanent inequality of the sexes and there is no mechanism for moderation since every Imam can claim his own version of Islam. It demands that faithful Muslims kill unfaithful ones. Ther can be no reformation of Islam.

The US bombed Laos because the government of Laos allowed the Viet Cong and NVA to make safe havens there and did nothing to interdict the portion of the Ho Chi Minh Trail that went through Laos.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Islam is an inherently evil religion. It allows for no other religion to exist. Every human must be a slave to Allah or die. It commands every Muslim to attack infidels in any way possible, it allows Muslims to lie to infidels and calls it a holy act.

Most religions are evil. Never heard of what Christians did in Spain in the middle ages?

It allows slavery, rape, stoning, permanent inequality of the sexes and there is no mechanism for moderation since every Imam can claim his own version of Islam. It demands that faithful Muslims kill unfaithful ones. There can be no reformation of Islam.

Sounds a lot like some sects in Judaism.

The US bombed Laos because the government of Laos allowed the Viet Cong and NVA to make safe havens there and did nothing to interdict the portion of the Ho Chi Minh Trail that went through Laos.

Every act of terrorism has some argument that justifies it, US, Hamas, Al Qaeda, they all have their justifications for killing innocent people.

 

[Roudy]

That's not recent at all, it's been known from the outset.

The Mufti was indeed aligned with Hitler, do you have any idea why?

It’s been known from the outside but his ideology still lives within the Palestinians and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Mufti served in the Ottoman army and saw them commit genocide on the Armenians aka the “Armenian Holocaust”. He envisioned Muslims doing the same to Jews in their own holy land. He became Hitler’s representative in the Middle East and was able to convert many Muslims and especially the so called Palestinians into IslamoNazism.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It’s been known from the outside but his ideology still lives within the Palestinians and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Mufti served in the Ottoman army and saw them commit genocide on the Armenians aka the “Armenian Holocaust”.

Rescue of Armenians during the Armenian genocide​

Some Ottoman religious leaders, like the Grand Mufti Mustafa Hayri Efendi, the second most important figure in Sunni Islam after the Ottoman Caliph, openly opposed the genocide as well. Mustafa Hayri Efendi was arrested, tried, and executed by the Young Turks.[7]

The most significant Muslim figure to have been involved in saving Armenians during the genocide is probably Hussein bin Ali, who proclaimed the Sharifian Caliphate in 1924 in replacement of the Ottoman Caliphate, after it was destroyed by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.[12][13][14] First, he condemned the genocide publicly as early as 1916, stating "We specifically bring to the world's condemnation the atrocities committed against the Greeks and Armenians, atrocities that our holy law can only disapprove of."[15] In 1917, he made decisions to protect the Armenian refugees and those residing in his lands from the Armenian genocide.[16] In this regard, he promulgated the same year, in a decree: "In the name of Most Merciful Allah and our prophet Muhammad, we are addressing our Arab brothers (...) to take Armenian refugees in their families, to share with them their belongings – camels, food, shelter, blankets – and share everything that you have in excess, and everything that you can give to people."[16]

The Armenian National Institute considers it to be the oldest declaration by a head of state to recognize the Armenian genocide.[22] Alongside this, he gave citizenship to his Armenian subjects.[23] According to survivors of the Armenian genocide, such as Levon Yotnakhparian, Hussein personally received him and was shocked by the news of what was happening.[24] He also supported Armenian survivors and provided men and protection for expeditions in the Syrian desert aimed at rescuing Armenian deportees.[25][26] According to testimonies, this method is said to have saved up to 4,000 people from the genocide, in collaboration with Hussein al-Attrache, a Druze chieftan who then disguised the refugees as Druzes.[25][26] His son, Faisal, provided free transportation to all Armenian refugees for their trip towards the British refugee camp in Damascus and free use of the Hejaz railway; even if that meant impeding on the war effort.[27]

It's purely xenophobia to insist that all Muslims supported the Armenian genocide, the facts paint a very different picture but that doesn't fit with your infantile narrative so lets just sweep it under the carpet. As you can see Arabs, Muslims took a principled stand and you should hang your head in shame to talk about Arabs in this way, as if they were heathen, animals, insects.

He envisioned Muslims doing the same to Jews in their own holy land. He became Hitler’s representative in the Middle East and was able to convert many Muslims and especially the so called Palestinians into Islamo Nazism.

The Mufti was indeed opposed to a state of Israel being carved out of Palestine, an entirely sensible thing too if you ask me. He aligned with the Nazis for the very good reason Arabs and the Nazis had the same enemy the traitorous British Empire.

The British after WW1 actively sought to thwart Arab independence, they promised to assist them if they fought and routed the Ottomans which they did but then the British reneged and decided a new Jewish state was a better idea, the Arabs have not forgotten how the British betrayed them.

The planned Zionist state was seen as and in fact was, a dire threat to Palestinian Arabs, the huge influx of foreign Jews and the growth of Zionist terror groups also alarmed him and all Arabs in Palestine.

Its not sensible to pretend that Arabs always hated Jews, it is simply untrue. The animosity began just after WW1 when the Balfour Declaration became public and the promises (McMahon–Hussein Correspondence) made to the Arabs were not kept.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Most religions are evil. Never heard of what Christians did in Spain in the middle ages?

Sounds a lot like some sects in Judaism.

Every act of terrorism has some argument that justifies it, US, Hamas, Al Qaeda, they all have their justifications for killing innocent people.

Laos wasn't terrorism, it was a common act of war since Laos was assisting the VC and NVA. Legally the US could have declared war against Laos, invaded it and conquered it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Laos wasn't terrorism, it was a common act of war since Laos was assisting the VC and NVA. Legally the US could have declared war against Laos, invaded it and conquered it.

Nothing wrong with assisting the VC or the NVA, the US invaded (illegal use of force under the UN charter) South Vietnam to try and prop up declining French colonial power and the Vietnamese have every right to fight a foreign invader, which the bravely did and defeated the mighty USA.

Terrorism has a definition too, here's the FBI definition

The U.S Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Dropping 260 million bombs on civilians over a ten year period, the equivalent of a planeload of bombs every 8 minutes 24 hours a day for ten years. Ten percent of the population were killed, and twice that were wounded, a full quarter of the population became refugees.

The campaign was done in secret, congress were not aware (thus satisfying the "unlawful" part of the definition)

Since then about 50,000 people in Laos have died or been injured by unexploded bombs, 98% of these are civilians and 70% of those are children, there are some 80 million bombs left scattered across the country.

That meets the definition of terrorism, as does the entire invasion of South Vietnam and the bombing of North Vietnam and the bombing of Cambodia.

The people of Laos never did anything to the US, nor did the people of Vietnam or Cambodia.
The US is the greatest mass murderer in human history, its barbarity exceeds all other nations throughout history, it exports violence and misery far beyond its borders, to the farthest reaches of the earth.

Republic and Democrat administrations are almost indistinguishable when it comes to "foreign policy".



Some of these former soldiers who fought in Vietnam have committed suicide because the depravity of their crimes has been more than they can bare.

The apologists for mass murder like to tell the story of Vietnam but it's all lies, make believe, sanitized to depict the Americans as victims, the sickness of this is evident to most open minded people but the depraved like yourself are too far gone, like the Nazis they are unyielding in their loyalty no matter the gravity of the crimes.

Here's the real story about Vietnam, watch as Buckley stutters and fumbles as Prof. Chomsky educates him and frankly embarrasses him.



The insanity is so deeply ingrained, the myth of US benevolence must be upheld even if it means telling bare faced lies, perhaps you're willing to live like that, steeped in lies and dishonesty, but I am not, I'm a human being.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Nothing wrong with assisting the VC or the NVA, the US invaded (illegal use of force under the UN charter) South Vietnam to try and prop up declining French colonial power and the Vietnamese have every right to fight a foreign invader, which the bravely did and defeated the mighty USA.

Terrorism has a definition too, here's the FBI definition



Dropping 260 million bombs on civilians over a ten year period, the equivalent of a planeload of bombs every 8 minutes 24 hours a day for ten years. Ten percent of the population were killed, and twice that were wounded, a full quarter of the population became refugees.

The campaign was done in secret, congress were not aware (thus satisfying the "unlawful" part of the definition)

Since then about 50,000 people in Laos have died or been injured by unexploded bombs, 98% of these are civilians and 70% of those are children, there are some 80 million bombs left scattered across the country.

That meets the definition of terrorism, as does the entire invasion of South Vietnam and the bombing of North Vietnam and the bombing of Cambodia.

The people of Laos never did anything to the US, nor did the people of Vietnam or Cambodia.
The US is the greatest mass murderer in human history, its barbarity exceeds all other nations throughout history, it exports violence and misery far beyond its borders, to the farthest reaches of the earth.

Republic and Democrat administrations are almost indistinguishable when it comes to "foreign policy".



Some of these former soldiers who fought in Vietnam have committed suicide because the depravity of their crimes has been more than they can bare.

The apologists for mass murder like to tell the story of Vietnam but it's all lies, make believe, sanitized to depict the Americans as victims, the sickness of this is evident to most open minded people but the depraved like yourself are too far gone, like the Nazis they are unyielding in their loyalty no matter the gravity of the crimes.

Here's the real story about Vietnam, watch as Buckley stutters and fumbles as Prof. Chomsky educates him and frankly embarrasses him.



The insanity is so deeply ingrained, the myth of US benevolence must be upheld even if it means telling bare faced lies, perhaps you're willing to live like that, steeped in lies and dishonesty, but I am not, I'm a human being.

The USA never invaded The Republic Of Vietnam. Both the RVN and USA were members of SEATO and the legal government of the RVN requested assistance under the terms of the treaty to repel the actual invasion launched by the People’s Republic of Vietnam? But you don’t want to hear the truth.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The USA never invaded The Republic Of Vietnam. Both the RVN and USA were members of SEATO and the legal government of the RVN requested assistance under the terms of the treaty to repel the actual invasion launched by the People’s Republic of Vietnam? But you don’t want to hear the truth.

You say "actual invasion launched by the People’s Republic of Vietnam" but how can a people "invade" their own country? How can resisting, fighting French invaders be described as an "invasion"?

SEATO was formed in 1954 (after a communist government had previously been established in China) yet the Vietnamese resistance that fought the French occupiers started 1945. How can an organization representing the interests of colonizing powers, collaborating with the French be regarded as "the legal government"?

You do have an odd way of reasoning about this.

Here Chomsky talks specifically about this masquerade with respect to Vietnam:

 

[AZrailwhale]

You say "actual invasion launched by the People’s Republic of Vietnam" but how can a people "invade" their own country? How can resisting, fighting French invaders be described as an "invasion"?

SEATO was formed in 1954 (after a communist government had previously been established in China) yet the Vietnamese resistance that fought the French occupiers started 1945. How can an organization representing the interests of colonizing powers, collaborating with the French be regarded as "the legal government"?

You do have an odd way of reasoning about this.

Here Chomsky talks specifically about this masquerade with respect to Vietnam:

The Republic of Vietnam was NEVER part of the Democratic People's Republic of Vietnam. Both were part of French Indo-China. Noam Chomsky is, and always has been, a hard line communist and apologist for any communist country, no matter how tyrannical.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Republic of Vietnam was NEVER part of the Democratic People's Republic of Vietnam. Both were part of French Indo-China.

Well before the French colonized it Vietnam was a unified and independent country. It was divided by agreement in the mid 1950s as you well know. That agreement anticipated a nationwide democratic election and the dissolution of the demilitarized zone.

The South saw to it that there was no election and eventually civil war erupted and the US supplied weapons and aid to the South eventually sending 16,000 troops and essentially fighting the North. There was no reason for the US to involve itself in that country's civil war other than geopolitical ambitions.

Noam Chomsky is, and always has been, a hard line communist and apologist for any communist country, no matter how tyrannical.

He just tells the truth, that's all he does, I've checked many many times. Here's another person who has things to say about Vietnam, the late John Pilger, he was on the ground reporting the war until it ended, this is all about the real victims of US war games, the Vietnamese, rather the usual crying-in-my-beer American "victims" that is so often the only side people ever see to this mass slaughter, this was filmed in 1974 and he interviews lots of Americans in and around the country, real history.