Government Healthcare Disaster in UK

For dumbass Americans:If you work as a teacher or some other government entity and they pay your benefits you have:
GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE
Ask them if they like it or not.
DUH.

Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.
 
Most Republicans love this stuff. They just love it. Insurance companies have to make a big profit. The bigger it is, they happier they are.

Rdean....look down between your legs.....see that appendage there?....its called a Dick....if you look closely at it....you will see your face on it....

I notice you left out the rest of the quote:

You could always point to a "case" or "cases". How about the heath care official who flips bird at mother of dying 17 year old girl whose insurance was cut. Hint - it was in this country.

Health Care companies made 12 billion last year by cutting 2.7 million policies. Now we have to pay for those people at 10 times the cost. Why is that OK for Republicans?

Hey, if it smells like poop, feels like poop, then it's poop and that's what Republicans do to this country by working against the Americans best interests just so corporations could have "more".
 
One of the problems the UK NHS faces is chronic under-funding. Perhaps they've forgotten that it has to be paid for and that could be why there are problems. Political spin isn't currency.

Medicaid and medicare are under funded in the US also.

A poor state of affairs all round. Governments should be forced to properly fund such programmes. If they're good enough to be in place then they should be funded so that they can deliver what they promise.
 
For dumbass Americans:If you work as a teacher or some other government entity and they pay your benefits you have:
GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE
Ask them if they like it or not.
DUH.

Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.

Is it a good thing that if you lose your job you lose your health insurance? I would have thought that to have a system in place that guarantees health insurance regardless of employment conditions that it would be beneficial not just not to the individual but to the nation.
 
The oft-repeated assertion that "I'm paying for someone else's health care" is fatuous. You're not. You're paying taxes, the same taxes that fund things such as defence.
 
For dumbass Americans:If you work as a teacher or some other government entity and they pay your benefits you have:
GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE
Ask them if they like it or not.
DUH.

Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.

Is it a good thing that if you lose your job you lose your health insurance? I would have thought that to have a system in place that guarantees health insurance regardless of employment conditions that it would be beneficial not just not to the individual but to the nation.



Yes, why don't our political leaders go fight for THAT in their new bill, I wonder.....?
 
Rdean....look down between your legs.....see that appendage there?....its called a Dick....if you look closely at it....you will see your face on it....

I notice you left out the rest of the quote:

You could always point to a "case" or "cases". How about the heath care official who flips bird at mother of dying 17 year old girl whose insurance was cut. Hint - it was in this country.

Health Care companies made 12 billion last year by cutting 2.7 million policies. Now we have to pay for those people at 10 times the cost. Why is that OK for Republicans?

Hey, if it smells like poop, feels like poop, then it's poop and that's what Republicans do to this country by working against the Americans best interests just so corporations could have "more".

Rdean i just made that up as i was typing....it was not a Quote....so how could i have left out anything?.....
 
The oft-repeated assertion that "I'm paying for someone else's health care" is fatuous. You're not. You're paying taxes, the same taxes that fund things such as defence.

Di...i believe the big sticker here is .....no one wants the US Govt. sticking their nose in this.....Regulating the Ins Co's is one thing, the Govt attempting to run it is another....we have seen how they run things.....i work for one of the entities....its not run very well....wasting money is a fact of life with these guys.....and when your Spokespersons are the 2 stooges (Reid and Pelosi).....it just makes you shutter.....thats my take...
 
National health insurance is not socialized medicine because the doctors and the hospitals are still privately owned, and national health insurance works better than our system.

That is why every other industrialized nation in the world has it, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare

Which is why the Republicans should be outraged. Why do we pay so fucking much for healthcare and receive such bad results?

why the hell wont you answer my question RW?....is it too fucking tough for you or what?.....if we have such "bad results" would you go to no 8 Oman...."The Jewell Of The Desert"....for critical surgery?......or would you rather gamble and have it here?....
 
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National health insurance is not socialized medicine because the doctors and the hospitals are still privately owned, and national health insurance works better than our system.

That is why every other industrialized nation in the world has it, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare

Why do we pay so fucking much for healthcare and receive such bad results?


So the CEO's can have the same perks as the Pelosi's of the world ? ......:eusa_whistle:
 
For dumbass Americans:If you work as a teacher or some other government entity and they pay your benefits you have:
GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE
Ask them if they like it or not.
DUH.

Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.

And yet, there you are, living off your wife. And your wife's insurance. You are a parasite. How does it feel bloodsucker? Take some responsibility. Get a job. Don't take your wife's insurance paid for by tax payers who don't want to support a blood sucking parasite. Don't tell us you are training your kid to be a parasite like you. I wonder if that could be called "child abuse". So now you're living off your wife and abusing your child. That's just "sick". Shame on you.
 
Rdean....look down between your legs.....see that appendage there?....its called a Dick....if you look closely at it....you will see your face on it....

I notice you left out the rest of the quote:

You could always point to a "case" or "cases". How about the heath care official who flips bird at mother of dying 17 year old girl whose insurance was cut. Hint - it was in this country.

Health Care companies made 12 billion last year by cutting 2.7 million policies. Now we have to pay for those people at 10 times the cost. Why is that OK for Republicans?

Hey, if it smells like poop, feels like poop, then it's poop and that's what Republicans do to this country by working against the Americans best interests just so corporations could have "more".

Rdean i just made that up as i was typing....it was not a Quote....so how could i have left out anything?.....

If you go back to #68, you will see that you quoted only half of what I wrote. You are like a pair of children's scissors, cute, colorful, not too sharp.
 
For dumbass Americans:If you work as a teacher or some other government entity and they pay your benefits you have:
GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE
Ask them if they like it or not.
DUH.

Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.

And yet, there you are, living off your wife. And your wife's insurance. You are a parasite. How does it feel bloodsucker? Take some responsibility. Get a job. Don't take your wife's insurance paid for by tax payers who don't want to support a blood sucking parasite. Don't tell us you are training your kid to be a parasite like you. I wonder if that could be called "child abuse". So now you're living off your wife and abusing your child. That's just "sick". Shame on you.

I hope that was an attempt at humor,
 
But I have a question to GOP supporters. Why do you expect, with only 41% of the senate, to be able to force your POV? There are parts of the healtcare bill that I don't like. But I see the cliff at the end of the healthcare road we're currently on is heading; and I'm all for an alternate route. Even one where I'm not 100% sure where it's going to lead.

Don't want the GOP plan either. Most want market based solutions as the govt can't run entitlement programs efficiently. The GOP did however, have some ideas that would help with the market based solutions such as the ability to buy insurances across state lines, tort reform and etc.
The one question that I have is that if there is so much fraud, waste and abuse in medicare and medicaid, why not address it in all of the years the Dems have been pushing HC. Why does it have to appear be one of the ways to pay for this bloated HC legislation. Why does it have to be in this bill. They could have been working on this at any time including the past year that the 2400 page bill has been concocted. Just more idiotic politics from idiotic politicians.
 
For dumbass Americans:If you work as a teacher or some other government entity and they pay your benefits you have:
GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE
Ask them if they like it or not.
DUH.

Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.

Is it a good thing that if you lose your job you lose your health insurance? I would have thought that to have a system in place that guarantees health insurance regardless of employment conditions that it would be beneficial not just not to the individual but to the nation.

Why should anyone be entitled for anything that someone else is paying?

What's wrong with earning it on your own?

Having system in place that guarantees heatlh insurance regardless of your employment will be beneficial only to those who aren't working and will give them another excuse not to work.
 
But I have a question to GOP supporters. Why do you expect, with only 41% of the senate, to be able to force your POV? There are parts of the healtcare bill that I don't like. But I see the cliff at the end of the healthcare road we're currently on is heading; and I'm all for an alternate route. Even one where I'm not 100% sure where it's going to lead.

Don't want the GOP plan either. Most want market based solutions as the govt can't run entitlement programs efficiently. The GOP did however, have some ideas that would help with the market based solutions such as the ability to buy insurances across state lines, tort reform and etc.
The one question that I have is that if there is so much fraud, waste and abuse in medicare and medicaid, why not address it in all of the years the Dems have been pushing HC. Why does it have to appear be one of the ways to pay for this bloated HC legislation. Why does it have to be in this bill. They could have been working on this at any time including the past year that the 2400 page bill has been concocted. Just more idiotic politics from idiotic politicians.

Although idea of buying insurance across the state lines could bring insurance price down, it's still unconstitutional since it's interfering with states rights.
 
But I have a question to GOP supporters. Why do you expect, with only 41% of the senate, to be able to force your POV? There are parts of the healtcare bill that I don't like. But I see the cliff at the end of the healthcare road we're currently on is heading; and I'm all for an alternate route. Even one where I'm not 100% sure where it's going to lead.

Don't want the GOP plan either. Most want market based solutions as the govt can't run entitlement programs efficiently. The GOP did however, have some ideas that would help with the market based solutions such as the ability to buy insurances across state lines, tort reform and etc.
The one question that I have is that if there is so much fraud, waste and abuse in medicare and medicaid, why not address it in all of the years the Dems have been pushing HC. Why does it have to appear be one of the ways to pay for this bloated HC legislation. Why does it have to be in this bill. They could have been working on this at any time including the past year that the 2400 page bill has been concocted. Just more idiotic politics from idiotic politicians.
Yeah if they were going to due it they would be doing now.
Like a teen ager who promises to clean their room tomorrow if you give them the car and 100 bucks tonight.
 
Let me tell you a story about a Teachers insurance.

My wife is a teacher. I got laid off last February from my job that provided insurance for myself and my son. Why didn't I have insurance through my wife at her job? Cause it would have cost me $600 (US) per month.

So, when I got laid off, I had to pay that... every month. This was without me having a job and having an added expense of $600 per month. Did it suck? You betcha!!! Did I whine and expect somenoe else to pay for it? Absolutely not. I paid it by cutting back on other stuff... mainly pleasures.

You liberals are nothing but parasites... well ... actually you are a few other things like Socialists, Anti-American and just pretty darn angry people. And you can't see that America is turning against you in large numbers because they are tired of hearing your whining and dishonesty.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. You will actually enjoy your life much more when you do things on your own and quit expecting others to do it for you or fix it for you or pay for it for you or stroke your ego for you or not offend you .. blah blah blah

My god, you are everything I am training my child not to be.

And yet, there you are, living off your wife. And your wife's insurance. You are a parasite. How does it feel bloodsucker? Take some responsibility. Get a job. Don't take your wife's insurance paid for by tax payers who don't want to support a blood sucking parasite. Don't tell us you are training your kid to be a parasite like you. I wonder if that could be called "child abuse". So now you're living off your wife and abusing your child. That's just "sick". Shame on you.

I hope that was an attempt at humor,

It was more like I was "mocking him". Sometimes people need help. We are a nation that helps each other. Republicans seem to have forgotten that.

More than half Americans want the public option.

More than half Americans want expanded Medicare.

Our current health care system is unsustainable.

Yet, Republicans, the obstructionist party, has managed to remove both the Public Option and Expanded Medicare. They don't care what Americans want.

They are "conservatives". They want things to "remain the same". But things are falling apart. They won't remain the same. They need to be fixed.

Worse, all the loons and goofballs are now in the Republicans party. Anti eduction, anti American, anti everything. They are just unhappy. This is where you get this, "We need to take our country back". Because they just want to "make things better". The truth is, they don't know how. I honestly believe many are hoping "Gawd" will "step in" and make things "better".

Worst of all, Republican leaders and Fox have stoked people's fear to make money or for political gain. If you hold the tail of a rattler, don't be surprised if it turns and bites you.

Finally, Democrats have been way too slow to respond because they can't believe that anyone would be stupid enough to believe "death panels", "kill grandma" and all that other nonsense Republicans have been saying. Unfortunately, the majority of Republicans do believe it. Because their fear and terror helps them to believe it. We can't underestimate the power of fear.
 

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