Grand jury indicts Daniel Penny in chokehold death of Jordan Neely

[tahuyaman]

And then he did everything possible to save him.

It was too late for that. However that can be used in his defense that he meant no harm.

 

[westwall]

It was too late for that. However that can be used in his defense that he meant no harm.

There are also multiple witnesses who have stated he saved them from a lunatic.

 

[jknowgood]

Better to be a racist, than a jailbird.

No, just better off than not doing anything to help people out, you can die.

 

[tahuyaman]

There are also multiple witnesses who have stated he saved them from a lunatic.

That’s fine. That doesn’t change the other facts facts though.

 

[krichton]

He acted like a vigilante. Yes, he held the hold too long, and that is his downfall. He will be convicted, I believe, of voluntary manslaughter.

I acted as a vigilante at least four times, and I have not paid a legal price for the actions. One of them I got away with what I did. Lucky. That's the bubble in which Penny operated, and he had dozens of people watching plus cameras and vids and whatever.

Think before acting out, then do what you think best.

To be fair, we don't know how long he actually choked Neely for.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I suspected this would end up being the case. I'm not happy with this because at the end of the day Penny is as much a victim as Neely.

Bullshit. Exactly how is he a victim?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Neither man should have ever ended up in their respective positions, but we have a virtually non-existent mental health system and a justice system that refuses to dispense justice.

Oh please, lables and diagnosis are not defenses and excuses. Americans lived for a few cenruries without having to fall back on victimhood

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Penny is NOT a victim. He's a murderer.

He is. Manslaughter is murder.

 

[tahuyaman]

To be fair, we don't know how long he actually choked Neely for.

Whatever the length of time was, it was too long. Even one of the guys assisting him told him something was wrong and to back off.

Now, does that rise to the level of manslaughter? I don’t know.

 

[tahuyaman]

He is. Manslaughter is murder.

No. Manslaughter is not murder. Not all homicides are a murder. Some aren’t even a crime.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

No. Manslaughter is not murder. Not all homicides are a murder. Some aren’t even a crime.

Manslaughter is covered as a criminal statute.

The man caused the death of another.

Here's an example of why this Subway Choke hold guy is considered a Criminal : another subway death. But this one involved physical assaults, whereas the choker, no one was physically assaulted. Arguments and scary threats happen, but until a hand is placed on another?

Man Charged With Manslaughter After Subway Stabbing

The man, Jordan Williams, stabbed the victim, Devictor Ouedraogo, on a northbound J train on Tuesday night, the police said.

www.nytimes.com

Mr. Williams was arrested and charged on Wednesday with manslaughter and criminal possession of a weapon. A woman who was taken into custody along with Mr. Williams was released. She has not been identified.

Before the men’s encounter, Mr. Ouedraogo had gotten into a dispute with passengers on the train, including Mr. Williams’s girlfriend, according to law enforcement sources.

 

[Lisa558]

Manslaughter is covered as a criminal statute.

The man caused the death of another.

Here's an example of why this Subway Choke hold guy is considered a Criminal : another subway death. But this one involved physical assaults, whereas the choker, no one was physically assaulted. Arguments and scary threats happen, but until a hand is placed on another?

Man Charged With Manslaughter After Subway Stabbing

The man, Jordan Williams, stabbed the victim, Devictor Ouedraogo, on a northbound J train on Tuesday night, the police said.

www.nytimes.com

There’s more outrage for this single case than the other 27 killings in the subway. We all know why: whitey interfered with a violent black man. If the races were reversed, or both black, this would never have made the news.

 

[JoeB131]

I suspected this would end up being the case. I'm not happy with this because at the end of the day Penny is as much a victim as Neely. It's the system that failed everyone here. Neither man should have ever ended up in their respective positions, but we have a virtually non-existent mental health system and a justice system that refuses to dispense justice.

Um, wait, are you actually "Blaming Society"?

Don't you wingnuts get all upset about that when poor criminals of color blame society for their crimes?

At the end of the day, Penny used lethal force against a smaller, unarmed man and continued to use it.
He was a US Marine, he was trained to know that a blood choke is lethal.

 

[JoeB131]

There’s more outrage for this single case than the other 27 killings in the subway. We all know why: whitey interfered with a violent black man. If the races were reversed, or both black, this would never have made the news.

Bullshit, we hear about it every time a mentally ill black man attacks a white person or an Asian on the subway.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

There’s more outrage for this single case than the other 27 killings in the subway. We all know why: whitey interfered with a violent black man. If the races were reversed, or both black, this would never have made the news.

there you are all stuck on the black man shit again. Why don't you just get laid by a few?

I heard there's an old saying "Once you black, you never come back"

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Bullshit, we hear about it every time a mentally ill black man attacks a white person or an Asian on the subway.

ty

 

[Lisa558]

there you are all stuck on the black man shit again. Why don't you just get laid by a few?

I heard there's an old saying "Once you black, you never come back"

Gd, you leftists are crass lowlifes.

 

[Meathead]

there you are all stuck on the black man shit again. Why don't you just get laid by a few?

I heard there's an old saying "Once you black, you never come back"

Is that what happened to you?

 

[tahuyaman]

Manslaughter is covered as a criminal statute.

The man caused the death of another.

Here's an example of why this Subway Choke hold guy is considered a Criminal : another subway death. But this one involved physical assaults, whereas the choker, no one was physically assaulted. Arguments and scary threats happen, but until a hand is placed on another?

Man Charged With Manslaughter After Subway Stabbing

The man, Jordan Williams, stabbed the victim, Devictor Ouedraogo, on a northbound J train on Tuesday night, the police said.

www.nytimes.com

Manslaughter is not murder. They are two different crimes.

 

[d0gbreath]

Free tuition and get out of jail free cards would be nice.

You'll never get away with playing dumb with me.