Great moments in last nights SOTU, I liked the North Korean defector/Trumps comments on justice best

[westwall]

I don’t know about the specifics, but they are dishonest illegals. Why should they be trusted? The Democrats want them for a votes and the Republicans want them for cheap labor and some want both.

Rustic, illegals can't vote.

Future votes, Although some do slip through the cracks. Career politicians are friends of the illegal alien

Only DACA kids are possibly being allowed a path to citizenship. Illegals can't apply.

DACA kids are illegal, however, they were brought over the border by their parents and had no choice. When they were presented with DACA they made a choice and registered with the government. That is why I feel they deserve a path to citizenship. They actually tried to comply with the law as it was presented to them. The fact that obummer violated the law with his EO is on him, not them.

That is my primary reason for supporting the DACA kids in their efforts. They have done everything in their power to comply with the law. There will certainly be DACA kids who break the law as these last couple of human traffickers show, but that is normal in any population group. No one is perfect and to claim otherwise is stupid.

...and they need to wait in line just like everyone else... at the back.
They should wait 12 to 15 years or more to become citizens.

I disagree. They shouldn't jump to the front, that is for sure, but they shouldn't be at the back either. They didn't make the decision to be illegal, they DID make the decision to try and be legal... That says a lot about them. And IMO it is good.

 

[BULLDOG]

Great speech with so many great moments. Here's a few that stick out for me.

- Victim's parents of MS13.
- Obamacare mandate repeal.
- Record low black unemployment while watching Dems not even clap
- Little boy for veterans and flags
- Tax reform
- Ohio business with welder

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

Great speech with so many great moments. Here's a few that stick out for me.

- Victim's parents of MS13.
- Obamacare mandate repeal.
- Record low black unemployment while watching Dems not even clap
- Little boy for veterans and flags
- Tax reform
- Ohio business with welder

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

you are the Queen of ''un--cleverness''

you people saying all this crap on Trump
he's a racist/moron/not clever/etc !!!!????
he's a multi-millionaire and you are a keyboard warrior --obviously he's more clever than you
and you MUST be perfect/godlike/inhuman/etc

Lots of us would be at least as wealthy as he is if our daddies left us millions of dollars.

 

[Rustic]

Taking someones words and saying you know what their true intent is, is kind of a leap in my book.

I've worked with migrant populations, which no doubt included some illegals--it wasn't my place to check on that. They are here to work, and they work their asses off. Around here, if they haven't got a green card they get sent home.
I got no issue with that. I got an issue with implying MOST of them are rapists and murderers; that's unfair.

Illegal is illegal, therefore they have no credibility. So you are saying if you let them all in there’s gonna be no violent criminals included? Lol

Don't be twisting what I said. Some are violent criminals, just as in any population, including homegrown Americans. Of course those damned MS13 boys and the drug dealers are violent criminals. Get 'em the hell outta here. Just stop painting all immigrants with the same broad brush.
You will find that killing your scapegoat is not going to solve all your problems.

See that is the problem we don’t know which ones are criminals and which ones are not. Until they get here then it’s too late. We need to be much tougher on illegal aliens. From the start

I just realized we have totally strayed from the OP.
How did this become an immigration thread?
I was disappointed in the "no eye opening" statements on North Korea. How about you?

I’ve never cared much for trump overall but I do have to say I love how he pisses progressives off with his every move. And by the way getting along is way overrated...

Most corrupt people in this country are career politicians/deep state people...

 

[Rustic]

I liked the dog whistles, exaggerations and lies the most!

Fact-checking Donald Trump's 2018 State of the Union speech
Fact check: How accurate was the State of the Union address? - CNNPolitics
2018 State of the Union Fact-Check
FACT CHECK: Trump's State Of The Union Address
Fact-checking Trump's first State of the Union address
We fact checked 15 Trump State of the Union points. Some rang true, others mostly false or exaggerated

I like the fact that Trump pisses you progressives off endlessly... lol

It is worth the price of admission...

 

[BULLDOG]

Great speech with so many great moments. Here's a few that stick out for me.

- Victim's parents of MS13.
- Obamacare mandate repeal.
- Record low black unemployment while watching Dems not even clap
- Little boy for veterans and flags
- Tax reform
- Ohio business with welder

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Total BS. You clowns just cannot stop lying can you?

If every time the Pres wants to push border security, he pulls out examples of MS13 and illegals who commit murder, what do YOU take that to mean? From the day he announced his candidacy, saying Mexico is sending us their criminals, rapists and drug dealers, not good people.
It's there.

he also said "some are good people"
You retarded hacks make shit up and call it fact. THATS why its funny

Right. His remark sounds fair and balanced-------if you're an idiot.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."

 

[Rustic]

Rustic, illegals can't vote.

Future votes, Although some do slip through the cracks. Career politicians are friends of the illegal alien

Only DACA kids are possibly being allowed a path to citizenship. Illegals can't apply.

DACA kids are illegal, however, they were brought over the border by their parents and had no choice. When they were presented with DACA they made a choice and registered with the government. That is why I feel they deserve a path to citizenship. They actually tried to comply with the law as it was presented to them. The fact that obummer violated the law with his EO is on him, not them.

That is my primary reason for supporting the DACA kids in their efforts. They have done everything in their power to comply with the law. There will certainly be DACA kids who break the law as these last couple of human traffickers show, but that is normal in any population group. No one is perfect and to claim otherwise is stupid.

...and they need to wait in line just like everyone else... at the back.
They should wait 12 to 15 years or more to become citizens.

I disagree. They shouldn't jump to the front, that is for sure, but they shouldn't be at the back either. They didn't make the decision to be illegal, they DID make the decision to try and be legal... That says a lot about them. And IMO it is good.

That is where we have to agree to disagree, illegal is illegal when it comes to citizenship and you can’t be soft on anybody for any reason to have any respect. Otherwise they will just run all over everybody.

 

[TNHarley]

Future votes, Although some do slip through the cracks. Career politicians are friends of the illegal alien

Only DACA kids are possibly being allowed a path to citizenship. Illegals can't apply.

DACA kids are illegal, however, they were brought over the border by their parents and had no choice. When they were presented with DACA they made a choice and registered with the government. That is why I feel they deserve a path to citizenship. They actually tried to comply with the law as it was presented to them. The fact that obummer violated the law with his EO is on him, not them.

That is my primary reason for supporting the DACA kids in their efforts. They have done everything in their power to comply with the law. There will certainly be DACA kids who break the law as these last couple of human traffickers show, but that is normal in any population group. No one is perfect and to claim otherwise is stupid.

...and they need to wait in line just like everyone else... at the back.
They should wait 12 to 15 years or more to become citizens.

I disagree. They shouldn't jump to the front, that is for sure, but they shouldn't be at the back either. They didn't make the decision to be illegal, they DID make the decision to try and be legal... That says a lot about them. And IMO it is good.

That is where we have to agree to disagree, illegal is illegal when it comes to citizenship and you can’t be soft on anybody for any reason to have any respect. Otherwise they will just run all over everybody.

sympathy is incentive.
Cut of all incentive
How do you curb a problem when you CONTINUOUSLY feed it?

 

[Rustic]

Great speech with so many great moments. Here's a few that stick out for me.

- Victim's parents of MS13.
- Obamacare mandate repeal.
- Record low black unemployment while watching Dems not even clap
- Little boy for veterans and flags
- Tax reform
- Ohio business with welder

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

Great speech with so many great moments. Here's a few that stick out for me.

- Victim's parents of MS13.
- Obamacare mandate repeal.
- Record low black unemployment while watching Dems not even clap
- Little boy for veterans and flags
- Tax reform
- Ohio business with welder

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

you are the Queen of ''un--cleverness''

you people saying all this crap on Trump
he's a racist/moron/not clever/etc !!!!????
he's a multi-millionaire and you are a keyboard warrior --obviously he's more clever than you
and you MUST be perfect/godlike/inhuman/etc

Lots of us would be at least as wealthy as he is if our daddies left us millions of dollars.

Actually Trump was only given a few million dollars is all, and he made that into Billions. He is much more successful than his dad ever could dream of being.
And he is president of United States… LOL

 

[BULLDOG]

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

you are the Queen of ''un--cleverness''

you people saying all this crap on Trump
he's a racist/moron/not clever/etc !!!!????
he's a multi-millionaire and you are a keyboard warrior --obviously he's more clever than you
and you MUST be perfect/godlike/inhuman/etc

Show me where I have called Trump a racist. I just said he WAS clever with his sneaky way of blowing the dog whistle, so maybe you are the one struggling to make sense of written English?
Multi-millionaires put on their pants same way I do--I got no extra respect for wealthy people. People who are honest, treat others with dignity and extend a hand to those who are struggling -- those things earn respect in my book.

most every anti-Trumper has called him a racist--it's part of the whole bag
he's the anti-christ--just like in my thread on it
he can't do ANYTHING right and he's the anti-christ to you clever people

so he's clever enough to make millions--but not clever for you??!!!!??? hahhahahahahhaah
he's a dumbass to you????

He's really not that clever. If he would have invested in index funds, instead of squandering so much on all his failed businesses, he would be much richer. If my daddy left me millions, I would be rich too.

 

[harmonica]

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

you are the Queen of ''un--cleverness''

you people saying all this crap on Trump
he's a racist/moron/not clever/etc !!!!????
he's a multi-millionaire and you are a keyboard warrior --obviously he's more clever than you
and you MUST be perfect/godlike/inhuman/etc

Lots of us would be at least as wealthy as he is if our daddies left us millions of dollars.

Actually Trump was only given a few million dollars is all, and he made that into Billions. He is much more successful than his dad ever could dream of being.
And he is president of United States… LOL

and against all odds

 

[Rustic]

Only DACA kids are possibly being allowed a path to citizenship. Illegals can't apply.

DACA kids are illegal, however, they were brought over the border by their parents and had no choice. When they were presented with DACA they made a choice and registered with the government. That is why I feel they deserve a path to citizenship. They actually tried to comply with the law as it was presented to them. The fact that obummer violated the law with his EO is on him, not them.

That is my primary reason for supporting the DACA kids in their efforts. They have done everything in their power to comply with the law. There will certainly be DACA kids who break the law as these last couple of human traffickers show, but that is normal in any population group. No one is perfect and to claim otherwise is stupid.

...and they need to wait in line just like everyone else... at the back.
They should wait 12 to 15 years or more to become citizens.

I disagree. They shouldn't jump to the front, that is for sure, but they shouldn't be at the back either. They didn't make the decision to be illegal, they DID make the decision to try and be legal... That says a lot about them. And IMO it is good.

That is where we have to agree to disagree, illegal is illegal when it comes to citizenship and you can’t be soft on anybody for any reason to have any respect. Otherwise they will just run all over everybody.

sympathy is incentive.
Cut of all incentive
How do you curb a problem when you CONTINUOUSLY feed it?

Bingo!!!!
We have wide open borders and we let just anybody in here because of it. What do we expect good people jumping the fence so to speak?
We are not going to get the cream of the crop, enless we are tough on the illegal immigration.

 

[OldLady]

I liked the dog whistles, exaggerations and lies the most!

Fact-checking Donald Trump's 2018 State of the Union speech
Fact check: How accurate was the State of the Union address? - CNNPolitics
2018 State of the Union Fact-Check
FACT CHECK: Trump's State Of The Union Address
Fact-checking Trump's first State of the Union address
We fact checked 15 Trump State of the Union points. Some rang true, others mostly false or exaggerated

How do his speech writers not know to check the facts? They've been writing it for months.
You sure this stuff is not true?

 

[BULLDOG]

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Trump is clever enough to point to his exact words and say "I didn't say that." But the intent has always been clear--from the day he announced his run. People don't get it.

you are the Queen of ''un--cleverness''

you people saying all this crap on Trump
he's a racist/moron/not clever/etc !!!!????
he's a multi-millionaire and you are a keyboard warrior --obviously he's more clever than you
and you MUST be perfect/godlike/inhuman/etc

Lots of us would be at least as wealthy as he is if our daddies left us millions of dollars.

Actually Trump was only given a few million dollars is all, and he made that into Billions. He is much more successful than his dad ever could dream of being.
And he is president of United States… LOL

Oh my....Only a few million. That poor destitute boy. What would that amount to in today's money? Did that include his inheritance and the money from running his father's business, and the 3.4 million in casino chips that his daddy bought and never cashed in?

 

[Ame®icano]

When the defector story was told it was powerful. This tough SOB was beaten close to his death, he traveled hundreds of miles on crutches for freedom, reminding Americans (and so many Canadians who lack freedom), just how precious it is. Then they tortured and killed his father, creating and even more angry defector who now gets his revenge by helping other defectors and uses a radio to comm across the border.

That moment he lifted his crutches and the gallery hollered at him, it was as if he was telling that fat sob in North Korea "look at me now punk, you didn't break me and now I'm coming for you!" Loved it.

Also, when Trump surprised many and spoke of justice reform and how people who have paid their debt in prison should be allowed to leave and get a second chance at life. Everyone applauded that, and I think it is a very big deal for him to go down this road. Not just for moral reasons, but socially and even economically, it's the right decision. Why throw away potential and consider all inmates just lost causes when they make a mistake in life? That's not Christian like, and Trump and his son in law have been working on this, and I think it's a popular direction.

Not all obviously, but some and maybe even many former bad guys can become great Americans. That second chance can really motivate the human spirit. All in all a great moment.

A couple hours prior to the speech, the tv news was saying Trump planned on an "eye opener" regarding North Korea. I didn't feel the guests' stories were really "eye openers" and he didn't say anything that was new or clear about North Korea, so I was disappointed about that.
Not to dis the guests' stories. They were moving. At first, I thought Trump was going to tell us next that we were going to war. But it was a nothing burger.

So, in other words, you believed what you heard on the news, but it's Trump that failed to deliver.

 

[Ame®icano]

Great speech with so many great moments. Here's a few that stick out for me.

- Victim's parents of MS13.
- Obamacare mandate repeal.
- Record low black unemployment while watching Dems not even clap
- Little boy for veterans and flags
- Tax reform
- Ohio business with welder

I'll quote you because you have it listed as items that stuck out to you...
But what I thought was the best moment and for deep-rooted political
reasoning, besides the heartbreak was the victim's parents of the MS13.

The story and watching those parents agonize thru it was gut-wrenching
enough, but it was a very subtle scene that had to lock up the Dems.

I mean there is nothing they can say. The theme was about illegal immigrants and how these young, unescorted illegals turn into thugs
in this country.

But the subtle point was the victim's parents, as well as the victim's
are all Black.

That Black Caucus just sat there numb. The Dem Party is so splintered
and a rainbow of minorities that they cannot hold true to their own core
beliefs. They must support each other's causes which is why they have
no message. Black Ministers supporting Homosexuals? Huh? Those folks
despise those people, but they have to shrug their shoulders. Their congregations don't, but they must.

Illegal immigrants have always taken jobs away from blacks in this country.
When the Cubans first arrived in Miami...The Blacks and the Cubans went
to war with each other. Everyone of those Miami Beach Hotels began using
Cuban workers and dumping blacks. The Redcaps at Miami International
were soon all Cubans.

That MS13 moment will become a challenge to the Black Caucus to
maintain their posture of supporting illegal immigration. Now they certainly
will, but it gives powerful talking points to be used against them

Yes. He made a heroic effort to try to tie all immigrants with MS13. Since his supporters don't have a brain, I can see how they could fall for that.

Total BS. You clowns just cannot stop lying can you?

If every time the Pres wants to push border security, he pulls out examples of MS13 and illegals who commit murder, what do YOU take that to mean? From the day he announced his candidacy, saying Mexico is sending us their criminals, rapists and drug dealers, not good people.
It's there.

No, Mexico is sending over their best. Right?

 

[OldLady]

When the defector story was told it was powerful. This tough SOB was beaten close to his death, he traveled hundreds of miles on crutches for freedom, reminding Americans (and so many Canadians who lack freedom), just how precious it is. Then they tortured and killed his father, creating and even more angry defector who now gets his revenge by helping other defectors and uses a radio to comm across the border.

That moment he lifted his crutches and the gallery hollered at him, it was as if he was telling that fat sob in North Korea "look at me now punk, you didn't break me and now I'm coming for you!" Loved it.

Also, when Trump surprised many and spoke of justice reform and how people who have paid their debt in prison should be allowed to leave and get a second chance at life. Everyone applauded that, and I think it is a very big deal for him to go down this road. Not just for moral reasons, but socially and even economically, it's the right decision. Why throw away potential and consider all inmates just lost causes when they make a mistake in life? That's not Christian like, and Trump and his son in law have been working on this, and I think it's a popular direction.

Not all obviously, but some and maybe even many former bad guys can become great Americans. That second chance can really motivate the human spirit. All in all a great moment.

A couple hours prior to the speech, the tv news was saying Trump planned on an "eye opener" regarding North Korea. I didn't feel the guests' stories were really "eye openers" and he didn't say anything that was new or clear about North Korea, so I was disappointed about that.
Not to dis the guests' stories. They were moving. At first, I thought Trump was going to tell us next that we were going to war. But it was a nothing burger.

So, in other words, you believed what you heard on the news, but it's Trump that failed to deliver.

My bad. Only CNN reported it.
I flip around--hate commercials. Don't always keep track of who is saying it.

 

[Ame®icano]

Rustic, illegals can't vote.

Are they allowed to vote?

 

[peach174]

The mainstream news is what's dividing us.

 

[Ame®icano]

he also said "some are good people"
You retarded hacks make shit up and call it fact. THATS why its funny

Straight from the horse's ass's mouth:
Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Some, I assume, are good people? Do you really not get the intent here? Do you really come away from that statement feeling that most of the people coming from Mexico are fine upstanding people?

Obviously fence jumpers are breaking the law to start with, why would you expect them to be honest about anything else?

Coming to a place to work, even though illegally, automatically makes you suspect them of being rapists or murderers?
Kind of a leap, in my book.

Taking someones words and saying you know what their true intent is, is kind of a leap in my book.

I've worked with migrant populations, which no doubt included some illegals--it wasn't my place to check on that. They are here to work, and they work their asses off. Around here, if they haven't got a green card they get sent home.
I got no issue with that. I got an issue with implying MOST of them are rapists and murderers; that's unfair.

Do you have an issue with implying that most of gun owners are criminals, murderers etc.?

 

[Ame®icano]

I liked the dog whistles, exaggerations and lies the most!

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Leftist media checking the facts. LOL