Greece’s Economy Is a Lesson for Republicans in the U.S.

Given that Greece's real relief will only come by forcing creditors to take a haircut and devaluing it's currency, which will make future borrowing very unpalatable, I'd think BOTH parties should do what needs to be done to avoid it ... including finding more revenue, and reforming entitlements, cutting overall spending, and holding spending increases to less that gnp increases.
 


  1. Greece’s Economy Is a Lesson for Republicans in the U.S.

Interesting advice from Paul Krugman , Fascist extraordinaire




Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.



Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.
The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

Joseph Story
Supreme Court Justice


In this day and age, if they come after you, it will be with drones. You won't even see it coming. Besides, if anyone wants an armed insurrection, it's the right wing. And what will be their goal? Freedom of Religion DOESN'T mean Freedom FROM Religion. And a return to the Feudal system. Only they will be called the serfs and the rich or as Republicans call them, the "job CREATORS".


THE ONES WHO WANT AN ARMED INSURRECTION ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE OX IS BEING GORED.


WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE IN LIBERTY FREE FROM TYRANNY.

I AM CERTAIN THAT THE FREE OR BLACK MARKET WILL INVENT A DEVICE TO DEFEAT DRONES.



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Given that Greece's real relief will only come by forcing creditors to take a haircut and devaluing it's currency, which will make future borrowing very unpalatable, I'd think BOTH parties should do what needs to be done to avoid it ... including finding more revenue, and reforming entitlements, cutting overall spending, and holding spending increases to less that gnp increases.
Greece's real relief will come only when they reform their economy and laws from top to bottom, ditching socialism and adopting liberal capitalism to grow their econoomy. In the meantime they will struggle with economic decline and entitlements.
 


  1. Greece’s Economy Is a Lesson for Republicans in the U.S.

Interesting advice from Paul Krugman , Fascist extraordinaire




Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.



Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.
The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

Joseph Story
Supreme Court Justice


In this day and age, if they come after you, it will be with drones. You won't even see it coming. Besides, if anyone wants an armed insurrection, it's the right wing. And what will be their goal? Freedom of Religion DOESN'T mean Freedom FROM Religion. And a return to the Feudal system. Only they will be called the serfs and the rich or as Republicans call them, the "job CREATORS".


THE ONES WHO WANT AN ARMED INSURRECTION ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE OX IS BEING GORED.


WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE IN LIBERTY FREE FROM TYRANNY.

I AM CERTAIN THAT THE FREE OR BLACK MARKET WILL INVENT A DEVICE TO DEFEAT DRONES.



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The Black Market doesn't invent anything. That comes from Scientists and engineers. Two professions employing few Republicans.
 


  1. Greece’s Economy Is a Lesson for Republicans in the U.S.


Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.



Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.
The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

Joseph Story
Supreme Court Justice


In this day and age, if they come after you, it will be with drones. You won't even see it coming. Besides, if anyone wants an armed insurrection, it's the right wing. And what will be their goal? Freedom of Religion DOESN'T mean Freedom FROM Religion. And a return to the Feudal system. Only they will be called the serfs and the rich or as Republicans call them, the "job CREATORS".


THE ONES WHO WANT AN ARMED INSURRECTION ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE OX IS BEING GORED.


WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE IN LIBERTY FREE FROM TYRANNY.

I AM CERTAIN THAT THE FREE OR BLACK MARKET WILL INVENT A DEVICE TO DEFEAT DRONES.



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The Black Market doesn't invent anything. That comes from Scientists and engineers. Two professions employing few Republicans.

Almost all the libertarians I ever met were in technical fields, you fucking moron. One was working on his Phd in physics.
 



Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now



After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.
The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

Joseph Story
Supreme Court Justice


In this day and age, if they come after you, it will be with drones. You won't even see it coming. Besides, if anyone wants an armed insurrection, it's the right wing. And what will be their goal? Freedom of Religion DOESN'T mean Freedom FROM Religion. And a return to the Feudal system. Only they will be called the serfs and the rich or as Republicans call them, the "job CREATORS".


THE ONES WHO WANT AN ARMED INSURRECTION ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE OX IS BEING GORED.


WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE IN LIBERTY FREE FROM TYRANNY.

I AM CERTAIN THAT THE FREE OR BLACK MARKET WILL INVENT A DEVICE TO DEFEAT DRONES.



.
The Black Market doesn't invent anything. That comes from Scientists and engineers. Two professions employing few Republicans.

Almost all the libertarians I ever met were in technical fields, you fucking moron. One was working on his Phd in physics.
Who created the knowledge & paid to impart it into that Phd?
 
Good On You, Greece—–But Don’t Waver Now


After generations of fiscal profligacy the Greek government should not worry about re-entering the capital markets at any time soon. It should resign itself to running primary budget surpluses for the indefinite future based on whatever domestic political consensus it can cobble together on the matter of taxation, pension reform, divestiture of state assets and weaning its crony capitalist leeches and special interest groups from their stranglehold on the Greek state’s depleted coffers.
The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

Joseph Story
Supreme Court Justice


In this day and age, if they come after you, it will be with drones. You won't even see it coming. Besides, if anyone wants an armed insurrection, it's the right wing. And what will be their goal? Freedom of Religion DOESN'T mean Freedom FROM Religion. And a return to the Feudal system. Only they will be called the serfs and the rich or as Republicans call them, the "job CREATORS".


THE ONES WHO WANT AN ARMED INSURRECTION ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE OX IS BEING GORED.


WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE IN LIBERTY FREE FROM TYRANNY.

I AM CERTAIN THAT THE FREE OR BLACK MARKET WILL INVENT A DEVICE TO DEFEAT DRONES.



.
The Black Market doesn't invent anything. That comes from Scientists and engineers. Two professions employing few Republicans.

Almost all the libertarians I ever met were in technical fields, you fucking moron. One was working on his Phd in physics.
Who created the knowledge & paid to impart it into that Phd?
He's a conspiracy wacko, don't expect an answer from him, he keeps dodging the fact that he claimed the WHO is a marxist organization.
 
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What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.
 
Given that Greece's real relief will only come by forcing creditors to take a haircut and devaluing it's currency, which will make future borrowing very unpalatable, I'd think BOTH parties should do what needs to be done to avoid it ... including finding more revenue, and reforming entitlements, cutting overall spending, and holding spending increases to less that gnp increases.
Greece's real relief will come only when they reform their economy and laws from top to bottom, ditching socialism and adopting liberal capitalism to grow their econoomy. In the meantime they will struggle with economic decline and entitlements.
LOL. Idiot, greece failed because of people dodging taxes and the pensions, along with bankers fucking things up. How the hell is greece socialist? Entitlement programs aren't socialist, and the left wing group in greece was ELECTED after the problem had surged to massive proportions, they didn't cause it. Fucking idiot.
 
What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
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What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
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Jesus christ, all you have are stupid pictures. I made a thread on cuba before and after the revolution, time to educate your stupid ass:
Hong kong was socialist? LOL.
Anyways, physical appearance means nothing to reality bud.
Let s talk about Cuba.. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
All sourced and factual, cuba was rampant with corruption, a horrid life expectancy, horrid women's rights, rampant homelessness..
 
What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
1282391614613.gif
Jesus christ, all you have are stupid pictures. I made a thread on cuba before and after the revolution, time to educate your stupid ass:
Hong kong was socialist? LOL.
Anyways, physical appearance means nothing to reality bud.
Let s talk about Cuba.. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
All sourced and factual, cuba was rampant with corruption, a horrid life expectancy, horrid women's rights, rampant homelessness..

Cuba still is...

Cuba-Proped-600-LI.jpg
 
What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
1282391614613.gif
Jesus christ, all you have are stupid pictures. I made a thread on cuba before and after the revolution, time to educate your stupid ass:
Hong kong was socialist? LOL.
Anyways, physical appearance means nothing to reality bud.
Let s talk about Cuba.. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
All sourced and factual, cuba was rampant with corruption, a horrid life expectancy, horrid women's rights, rampant homelessness..

Cuba still is...

Cuba-Proped-600-LI.jpg
Oh look, more idiotic pictures that clearly show you didn't even bother to look into the facts, you're still chugging down cold war propaganda, you fucking idiot.
 
What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
1282391614613.gif
Jesus christ, all you have are stupid pictures. I made a thread on cuba before and after the revolution, time to educate your stupid ass:
Hong kong was socialist? LOL.
Anyways, physical appearance means nothing to reality bud.
Let s talk about Cuba.. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
All sourced and factual, cuba was rampant with corruption, a horrid life expectancy, horrid women's rights, rampant homelessness..

Cuba still is...

Cuba-Proped-600-LI.jpg
Oh look, more idiotic pictures that clearly show you didn't even bother to look into the facts, you're still chugging down cold war propaganda, you fucking idiot.

I like it when you call me names. and have NOTHING but lies to back yourself up with... Just admit you're a NeoCommie, and be done with it!
 
What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
1282391614613.gif
Jesus christ, all you have are stupid pictures. I made a thread on cuba before and after the revolution, time to educate your stupid ass:
Hong kong was socialist? LOL.
Anyways, physical appearance means nothing to reality bud.
Let s talk about Cuba.. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
All sourced and factual, cuba was rampant with corruption, a horrid life expectancy, horrid women's rights, rampant homelessness..

Cuba still is...

Cuba-Proped-600-LI.jpg
Oh look, more idiotic pictures that clearly show you didn't even bother to look into the facts, you're still chugging down cold war propaganda, you fucking idiot.

I like it when you call me names. and have NOTHING but lies to back yourself up with... Just admit you're a NeoCommie, and be done with it!
Lies? I just sent you a thread I made sometime ago with a indepth analysis into cuba before and after the revolution, your failure to examine the facts is telling of who you are. A neocommie? Pfft, maybe I am a communist. :deal:
 
You know the problem is that you are preaching to people (republicans) who don't even understand what socialism is. They see no difference between Norway and North Korea. They are that brainwashed. Fox News has them by the balls.

I wish the U.S. could be more like Norway but I doubt that will ever happen.
Fuck you turd and $8 gallon of gas , Go there then
Republican response: HURR DURR. Norway has strong unions and higher wages due to this, alot of people in norway use public transporation, which is a better thing then individual car ownership in my opinion, plus, norway isn't that big.

Public transportation sucks.
Your thirty minute drive to work turns into a two hour ride. Fuck That!!!!
In Chicago, it's a 20 minutes to O'Hara on the Blue Line and an hour and a half driving.
So that tells me you don't have a car or know the short cuts or even know how to drive in Chicago traffic.
 
What the fuck are you doing, posting random pictures while still failing to realize what socialism actually is. By what measure was the soviet union a failure, it only started to fail after adopting revisionist reforms when stalin died and Khrushchev came in, and the soviet union wasn't even socialist, it was state capitalist, the state owned the means of production.

I like you, you answer your own questions, bitch slapping yourself!
1282391614613.gif
Jesus christ, all you have are stupid pictures. I made a thread on cuba before and after the revolution, time to educate your stupid ass:
Hong kong was socialist? LOL.
Anyways, physical appearance means nothing to reality bud.
Let s talk about Cuba.. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
All sourced and factual, cuba was rampant with corruption, a horrid life expectancy, horrid women's rights, rampant homelessness..

Cuba still is...

Cuba-Proped-600-LI.jpg
Oh look, more idiotic pictures that clearly show you didn't even bother to look into the facts, you're still chugging down cold war propaganda, you fucking idiot.
This is not a conservative policy it's a liberal one.

"But Greece was running up unsustainable debts. Public-sector employees enjoyed generous pensions and retirement in their 50s. Workers received infamous 13th and 14th month salaries -- double pay around the holidays."

Greek Debt Crisis How Did Greece Get Here And Where Is It Going
 
This is not a conservative policy it's a liberal one.
"But Greece was running up unsustainable debts. Public-sector employees enjoyed generous pensions and retirement in their 50s. Workers received infamous 13th and 14th month salaries -- double pay around the holidays."
Greek Debt Crisis How Did Greece Get Here And Where Is It Going

Arguing with Socialist - or socialists - is like playing Whac-A-Mole.
He pretends that capitalism is really socialism (and vice versa) and that he and his policies are not really what they seem. When cornered he simply claims that his adversary doesn't know what socialism is.
 

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