Gun Protesters Plan March On D.C. With Loaded Rifles To ‘Put Government On Notice'

[LoudMcCloud]

[ame=http://youtu.be/6RuqJW-d4g0]Adam Kokesh arrested by Feds and Missing! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Lakhota]

So, Kokesh is locked up in a federal jail. I hope he's out in time for his armed march into D.C. on July 4th.

 

[Politico]

Yeah, I saw this. Clearly looks purely political to me. I've seen several different videos of the arrest and he did nothing wrong nor was he doing anything wrong when they grabbed a hold of him.

Yeah political lol. Get him for pot or for carryiing a loaded weapon to the WH. What to do...

 

[editec]

I will be terribly interested if this armed march on Washington happens.

I don't think it will happen. I think it will be a civil disorder disaster if it does, but it would make for some interesting TV, would it not?

These pro-gun boys have been claiming they are the BEST HOPE for keeping the increasingly oppressive government off out backs for years.

We read their of self proclaiming grandiose heroism on this board frequently

Well, now... here's their chance to show the government and the rest of us, that they mean business.

Which of our board's resident 2nd Amendment advocates will be attending?

Come on, Boys, show us that you are not all talk.

 

[Uncensored2008]

i sure hope that I don't miss the start of the armed insurrection, since I doubt if it would last more than about 3 1/2 minutes...

However, I can't help but wish that they would march on the lower 9th Ward in New Orleans. THAT could turn into a replay of the Warsaw uprising of WW2!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The L.A. Riots lasted for 5 days, shit fer brains. And those were just two bit thugs.

Look, you Obamunists dream of being able to murder millions - I get it. And you think that if you can spark a civil war - you'll be able to go out and murder every Republican and anyone who doesn't swear a loyalty oath to your party.

But you're an idiot - you're stupid as a fucking 2X4 - a REAL war is an act of destruction. The economy fails, infrastructure crumbles, people on both sides die.

BTW, I think your Messiah® is too crippled now to spark the war you lust for.

 

[Circe]

I will be terribly interested if this armed march on Washington happens.

I don't think it will happen. I think it will be a civil disorder disaster if it does, but it would make for some interesting TV, would it not?

These pro-gun boys have been claiming they are the BEST HOPE for keeping the increasingly oppressive government off out backs for years.

We read their of self proclaiming grandiose heroism on this board frequently

Well, now... here's their chance to show the government and the rest of us, that they mean business.

Which of our board's resident 2nd Amendment advocates will be attending?

Come on, Boys, show us that you are not all talk.

[ Well, they won't get a permit for such a march so they won't march. Simple, IMO. It would make interesting TV........I think I might watch such coverage, but it won't happen, I don't think.

Some small incident always starts big change events, but as a rule, it's not a protest demonstration. And it's never by the right, it's always something triggered by the Left. Germany marched over the border to start WWI, but it was leftwing anarchist Gavrilo Princep who shot the Archduke and started it all.

No, this loaded gun nut march thing will go away. It was the Occupy movement that I was interested in to see starting The End of America --- but they got broken up. Only the left starts the trouble that starts any Big Change. The left starts it, the right reacts strongly, the fat's in the fire. That's the pattern I see for centuries past.

 

[editec]

I will be terribly interested if this armed march on Washington happens.

I don't think it will happen. I think it will be a civil disorder disaster if it does, but it would make for some interesting TV, would it not?

These pro-gun boys have been claiming they are the BEST HOPE for keeping the increasingly oppressive government off out backs for years.

We read their of self proclaiming grandiose heroism on this board frequently

Well, now... here's their chance to show the government and the rest of us, that they mean business.

Which of our board's resident 2nd Amendment advocates will be attending?

Come on, Boys, show us that you are not all talk.

[ Well, they won't get a permit for such a march so they won't march. Simple, IMO. It would make interesting TV........I think I might watch such coverage, but it won't happen, I don't think.

I concur

Some small incident always starts big change events, but as a rule, it's not a protest demonstration. And it's never by the right, it's always something triggered by the Left. Germany marched over the border to start WWI, but it was leftwing anarchist Gavrilo Princep who shot the Archduke and started it all.

I doubt that the "left" will start a shooting war. I doubt the "right" will, either.

No, this loaded gun nut march thing will go away.

I think it will. I hope it will.

It was the Occupy movement that I was interested in to see starting The End of America --- but they got broken up.

OWS was not advocating breaking up America, OR government, obviously.

Only the left starts the trouble that starts any Big Change. The left starts it, the right reacts strongly, the fat's in the fire. That's the pattern I see for centuries past.

O think you need to read your history, Circe.

That or what you call "the left" and what I call "the left" are wildly different people.

Let me guess...Hilter was a LEFTIE in your world view, right?

You see to me, somebody like Hitler defies the left/right pardigm.

Hitlerian Germany was WHAT IT WAS.

Call it whatever floats your boat, but it was not leftist as the word leftist was defined by the LEFT OR THE RIGHT back in 1933.

Hitler was a FASCIST...a kind of socialism wherein the BIG CAPITAL rules the roost.

 

[Circe]

I doubt that the "left" will start a shooting war. I doubt the "right" will, either.

Well, it's not usually shooting.....sometimes it is, like Fort Sumter. But the South had already walked. Let's see, the Russian Rev. started with a protest demonstration by the left marching to "present a petition" to the czar, so I was wrong there about it never being protest marches, and the march was met by a cavalry charge and also rifle fire. After that, things deteriorated quickly.

There was the Shot Heard Round the World, but no one knows who fired that, could have been a misfire by the British. The Boston Massacre was a leftwing riot put down by rightwing gunfire. I am defining left as in favor of change and the "proletariat" and the right as in favor of stability and those already in power.

As for Big Change started without shooting, there was the Tennis Court Oath, with all the Frenchies' hands raised in unison in a fascist.....ah, that is, a Roman salute. That was the real moment, not the Bastille riot: they had lots of riots, a dime a dozen.


I myself expect a black riot to start things off here. Moving into suburbs, defense of homes by whites, established powers try to put it down, whoops, that's it. All within half a week, ka-boom. That's the norm. When a dam breaks, it doesn't break slow.

OWS was not advocating breaking up America, OR government, obviously.

Gracious!! Of course they were!!! They were anarchists: in fact, I subscribed to the magazine put out in Canada by the original organizers to see what it was all about! I thought they had a good chance of starting things up. The mag is called "Adbusters America" and it is communist and anarchist clear through. They almost managed to start bad riots in California, but finally the mayors of our cities regained their sanity and broke it all up.

Only the left starts the trouble that starts any Big Change. The left starts it, the right reacts strongly, the fat's in the fire. That's the pattern I see for centuries past.

O think you need to read your history, Circe.

O, it would not be possible for me to read more history than I already do now or have read, editec. We may disagree, but it won't be because I don't know history.

That or what you call "the left" and what I call "the left" are wildly different people.

Let me guess...Hilter was a LEFTIE in your world view, right?

You see to me, somebody like Hitler defies the left/right pardigm.

Hitlerian Germany was WHAT IT WAS.

Call it whatever floats your boat, but it was not leftist as the word leftist was defined by the LEFT OR THE RIGHT back in 1933.

Hitler was a FASCIST...a kind of socialism wherein the BIG CAPITAL rules the roost.

Hitler thought he was sort of left...... that's why he called it national socialism. They had just that minute invented fascism, after all; it's asking a lot to suppose they spent their time defining the place of fascism in political philosophy! They had several countries to take over, millions of Jews to murder. They were busy. We call fascism rightwing now, but I don't know.....I think left means wanting change and right means not wanting change.

I agree Hitlerian Germany was what it was, and that was mostly totalitarian as well as fascist, but I don't agree with your definition of fascism. Primitive and passionate nationalism and militarism combined with totalitarianism is what I'd say defines it, as well as setting up parallel structures for government to do what it wants quick and dirty (the SS as well as the Army) and totalitarianism, invented during the French Revolution and used extensively in Total War by Napoleon, means gross control of everyone's personal life, cradle to grave, by government. All those guillotines for Wrong Thought and nightly house searches and informers in the French Revolution, all the mass drafts for troops (levee en masse) and all the Youth Camps and huge organized and militaristic parades and speech occasions in Germany in the '30s, for just a few examples.

Totalitarianism could definitely happen here.

 

[Lakhota]

Thousands of people signed up to attend an armed march on Washington over the course of the last month. But now, the leader of the march is setting his sights much higher than a single demonstration — he wants his armed followers to help overthrow the American government.

About a month ago, a gun activist named Adam Kokesh called for thousands of people to join him in an armed march on Washington, D.C. to “put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny.” As of this writing, nearly 5,200 people have RSVPed for Kokesh’s armed march.

Late last week, however, Kokesh decided to abandon this march in favor of a much larger effort to bring down the entire federal government. In a statement written from a jail cell in Philadelphia (Kokesh faced charges for allegedly resisting arrest during a pro-marijuana rally. He now says he’s been released), the gun activist called for his supporters to form a secessionist “army”:

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