How do you explain Natural Rights to a Liberal who believes rights depend on Govt?

[BlindBoo]

You are regressive collectivist authoritarians, and yeah, we're well aware that you people do not remotely believe in human rights or equality.

You have been conditioned to believe it, what you see is the mirror.

 

[Wyatt earp]

/---/ Tommy says his right to pork another man comes from his King, and only Charles can take it away.
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Well know you pissed me off , I wish Dianna was still alive

Prove it.

I am not you,prove it to yourself, and watch out, I am warning you don't go to deep

 

[skews13]

A friend was alarmed I would endorse any kind of Conservative or Republican narrative or agenda seen as a threat to women's rights. How do you explain that if you already depend on govt for rights then you are not free?

Doesn't real freedom mean you have rights that are "inalienable" i.e., with or without govt endorsing them.

I tried to respond as below.
Should I try harder to make the point that the way to protect and claim rights is to practice and enforce them directly?

How would you explain this in plain terms?

RE: "What rights of women are you willing to sacrifice by supporting Conservatives or Republicans pushing prolife laws"

Women and all other groups of people need to learn how to practice enforce and represent our own rights. It's called ownership. And self governance. Equal empowerment. Do you know how in church history, the masses used to be illiterate people who depended on priests to read, write and have authority over the laws -- until Luther insisted that people learn the laws directly and embrace authority of law through Jesus to connect with God directly by faith. NOT by relying on priests as the middleman between people and God because Jesus already fulfills that. Well today we're going through a similar Reformation where people assume equally authority and responsibility as the state. We learn the laws and embody them directly. With spiritual laws we the people become one as the church. With natural laws, Jesus also fulfills that path as Justice to bring peace. We all make this process of peace through justice happen equally.

How do you get candy lain to a shot for brains right winger that we the people are the government, there was a no God. Jesus is nobody’s lord and savior, and there is no constitutional right to own a gun, but there will s a constitutional right for a woman to have an abortion?

Just exactly how do you explain lain this to these brain dead fucks?

Please let me know when you find out

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well know you pissed me off , I wish Dianna was still alive

I am not you,prove it to yourself, and watch out, I am warning you don't go to deep

/----/ Why did my dig at Tommy piss you off?

 

[Independent thinker]

A friend was alarmed I would endorse any kind of Conservative or Republican narrative or agenda seen as a threat to women's rights. How do you explain that if you already depend on govt for rights then you are not free?

Doesn't real freedom mean you have rights that are "inalienable" i.e., with or without govt endorsing them.

I tried to respond as below.
Should I try harder to make the point that the way to protect and claim rights is to practice and enforce them directly?

How would you explain this in plain terms?

RE: "What rights of women are you willing to sacrifice by supporting Conservatives or Republicans pushing prolife laws"

Women and all other groups of people need to learn how to practice enforce and represent our own rights. It's called ownership. And self governance. Equal empowerment. Do you know how in church history, the masses used to be illiterate people who depended on priests to read, write and have authority over the laws -- until Luther insisted that people learn the laws directly and embrace authority of law through Jesus to connect with God directly by faith. NOT by relying on priests as the middleman between people and God because Jesus already fulfills that. Well today we're going through a similar Reformation where people assume equally authority and responsibility as the state. We learn the laws and embody them directly. With spiritual laws we the people become one as the church. With natural laws, Jesus also fulfills that path as Justice to bring peace. We all make this process of peace through justice happen equally.

You're trying to explain something to a liberal? Good luck with that.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Prove it.

/---/ We had these rights before there were governments. And our Constitution does not grant power to the government, it restricts what the government can do to us. Example:

First Amendment​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
...

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Yes it is my friend

Suggestion: Don't indulge that racist bot.



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[CarsomyrPlusSix]

You have been conditioned to believe it, what you see is the mirror.

No, I have my eyes open to the fact that you are regressive authoritarian shitheels who lie about literally everything.

You are projecting... ABOUT PROJECTING.

You assholes rant about anti-racism while being blatant racists.
You rant about "anti-fascism" and call everyone who disagrees with you that while being the ones burning cities and terrorizing people and silencing speech.
You pretend "feminism is just about equality" while being blatant misandrist female supremacists and opposing equality at every turn... and then you complicate this further with pretending it is ambiguous what a woman even is.

 

[Fueri]

There is no path to explaining anything to the new left.

Frothing at the mouth crazy on any issue, no matter how small. Their entire identities wrapped up in identity politics, these are no longer reasonable people.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

How do you get candy lain to a shot for brains right winger that we the people are the government, there was a no God. Jesus is nobody’s lord and savior, and there is no constitutional right to own a gun, but there will s a constitutional right for a woman to have an abortion?

Just exactly how do you explain lain this to these brain dead fucks?

Please let me know when you find out

Oh the ironing.

Your post doesn't even parse as English, retard.

The 2nd Amendment exists. The "right to abortion" never did. You are the "braindead fuck" - pull the plug.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

How do you get candy lain to a shot for brains right winger that we the people are the government, there was a no God. Jesus is nobody’s lord and savior, and there is no constitutional right to own a gun, but there will s a constitutional right for a woman to have an abortion?

Just exactly how do you explain lain this to these brain dead fucks?

Please let me know when you find out

Anybody got their skews/English dictionary handy? Mine seems to be missing.


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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

There is no path to explaining anything to the new left.

Frothing at the mouth crazy on any issue, no matter how small. Their entire identities wrapped up in identity politics, these are no longer reasonable people.

These are no longer any kind of people.


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[Unkotare]

Well know you pissed me off , I wish Dianna was still alive

I am not you,prove it to yourself, and watch out, I am warning you don't go to deep

Another internet tough guy .....

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Anybody got their skews/English dictionary handy? Mine seems to be missing.

I don't think that thing is sapient enough to warrant rights, by the left's standards.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Another internet tough guy .....

Nope,but Hawkeye pierce taught me one hell of a lesson

 

[Curried Goats]

I am not you,prove it to yourself, and watch out, I am warning you don't go to deep

I go to sleep every night and sleep just fine.

Anyway this where this bullshit always falls apart. Sky Daddy and Mother Nature didn't sprinkle you with Natural Rights and no one is inclined to believe that nonsense until you bring some evidence.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Prove it.

If they derive from his creator its strange that God did not extend these "rights" to other countries.

 

[Curried Goats]

/---/ We had these rights before there were governments. And our Constitution does not grant power to the government, it restricts what the government can do to us. Example:

First Amendment​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
...

If you had these Rights before government what do you need government for?

 

[Unkotare]

Nope,but Hawkeye pierce taught me one hell of a lesson

How to be a maudlin, self-important liberal hypocrite?

 

[Curried Goats]

If they derive from his creator its strange that God did not extend these "rights" to other countries.

America is the chosen land of Jesus of Nazareth. Says so in the Bible dum dum.