How to actually lower gun murder rates..."Operation Ceasefire," but Dems don't like it

[PaintMyHouse]

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

Only if you call listing mass shootings that didn't kill at least four people lumping everything.

Nope.....gang members shooting other gang members at a party is not what people consider a mass shooting....and you know that, shootingtracker knows it....you are lying....

Tell us, is it a mass shooting when three whities die but to count for darkies it has to be at least six to eight, otherwise it's just a Tuesday night?

 

[2aguy]

Oh look....another shooting at a party.......wonder if any of these people have gang ties........

5 injured in New Year's Day party bus shooting

Dale Westbrook and his friend, Marcus McKinney, rushed to Baptist Memorial Hospital after finding out their close friend was taken there.

"He has been shot in the head due to a verbal argument, just crazy," said Westbrook.

When officers arrived at the hospital, they found several people in the lobby.

Police spoke to witnesses who were on the party bus which had just left Ice Bar and Grill Club, located on Hacks Cross and Lowrance Roads.

Witnesses say someone on the bus got into a verbal fight with another person at the club. The bus driver tried to get everyone back on the bus. While waiting for people to board the bus, the 33-year-old individual exited the bus and continued the argument.

The bus driver made him get back on the bus. The two suspects went to their vehicles, one of which was a green Chevrolet Tahoe, and started showing weapons.


This is not what normal people consider a mass public shooting.....morons.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Oh look....another shooting at a party.......wonder if any of these people have gang ties........

5 injured in New Year's Day party bus shooting

If they were darkies we'll call it mechanical failure...

 

[2aguy]

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

 

[2aguy]

Here we go twits....from my neck of the woods.....another shooting at a party....a send off for one of their buddies going to prison......yes....this is not what people consider mass shootings....so again....this shows that you and your source are lying...

Four shot inside Joliet home

Four people were shot during a party held in honor of a friend heading to prison, when an argument over a dice game ended in violence.

The party was hosted in the basement of a home in the 800 block of Sherman Street in an unincorporated area of Joliet, the Will County sheriff’s office said.

It was a celebration in honor of a friend headed to prison on aggravated battery charges, sheriff’s police said. The invitation had been posted to several social media websites.

yes....normal people think that mass shootings involve dice games at parties for guys going to prison.....right?

these are not Fort Hood, they are not Sandy Hook or the Theater shooting or even the church shooting...which is what normal people know to be mass shootings...you are lying about these events in shooting tracker.......

Lying is all the anti gunners have since reality and facts show them to be wrong....

It was a celebration in honor of a friend headed to prison on aggravated battery charges, sheriff’s police said. The invitation had been posted to several social media websites.

 

[2aguy]

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

Only if you call listing mass shootings that didn't kill at least four people lumping everything.

Nope.....gang members shooting other gang members at a party is not what people consider a mass shooting....and you know that, shootingtracker knows it....you are lying....

Tell us, is it a mass shooting when three whities die but to count for darkies it has to be at least six to eight, otherwise it's just a Tuesday night?

Twit...it is a mass shooting when an individual walks into a public space and starts shooting people....it is not a Mass shooting when it is a fight over a drunken dice game at a send off for a thug going to prison...twit....

 

[2aguy]

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

A word of advice....never, ever trust gun grabber sites...they lie...because they have to lie because the truth, facts and reality do not support their agenda...so if you push their sites...you are helping them spread lies.....

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Fine by me, but I still want all the guns, in a hole in the ground.

Not gonna happen, dude.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

The people who commit the most gun murder are actually a tiny group in most cities....in Oakland California, this article points out there were only 1000 guys who were doing all of the shooting...out of the entire population....

this program...started in the 90s actually addresses the problem...the criminals who do the shooting....and because the emphasis is on that...and not gun banning....and because it takes inter faith cooperation and cooperation with the police...the democrats don't care about it....

https://newrepublic.com/article/124445/beyond-gun-control

The results of Operation Ceasefire were dramatic. Soon after Boston held its first meeting—known as a call-in—on May 15, 1996, homicides of young men plummeted along with reports of shots fired.

The Reverend Jeff Brown, one of the ministers who worked on the project, remembers people were outside more, barbecuing in the park. At Halloween, kids were able to trick-or-treat on the streets again.

The team behind the effort quickly started getting calls from other cities—even other countries—about how to replicate what became known as the Boston Miracle. With the support of the Justice Department under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, many cities tried the strategy and some got dramatic results. Stockton saw a 42 percent reduction in monthly gun homicides over several years. Indianapolis experienced a 34 percent drop in monthly homicides. Lowell, Massachusetts, saw gun assaults fall by 44 percent.

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Other cities have tried Ceasefire, or half-tried it, and then abandoned it. The strategy requires resources, political buy-in, and ongoing trust between unlikely partners. The effort in Boston had “black and Latin and Cape Verdean clergy working with white Irish Catholic cops in a city that had a history of race relations leading up to that point that was abysmal,” Brown said. “It was really a shift in behavior, in the way we did business.”

My way's better. Execute violent criminals. An executed criminal never reoffends.

 

[Joe Friday]

The people who commit the most gun murder are actually a tiny group in most cities....in Oakland California, this article points out there were only 1000 guys who were doing all of the shooting...out of the entire population....

this program...started in the 90s actually addresses the problem...the criminals who do the shooting....and because the emphasis is on that...and not gun banning....and because it takes inter faith cooperation and cooperation with the police...the democrats don't care about it....

https://newrepublic.com/article/124445/beyond-gun-control

The results of Operation Ceasefire were dramatic. Soon after Boston held its first meeting—known as a call-in—on May 15, 1996, homicides of young men plummeted along with reports of shots fired.

The Reverend Jeff Brown, one of the ministers who worked on the project, remembers people were outside more, barbecuing in the park. At Halloween, kids were able to trick-or-treat on the streets again.

The team behind the effort quickly started getting calls from other cities—even other countries—about how to replicate what became known as the Boston Miracle. With the support of the Justice Department under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, many cities tried the strategy and some got dramatic results. Stockton saw a 42 percent reduction in monthly gun homicides over several years. Indianapolis experienced a 34 percent drop in monthly homicides. Lowell, Massachusetts, saw gun assaults fall by 44 percent.

------------

Other cities have tried Ceasefire, or half-tried it, and then abandoned it. The strategy requires resources, political buy-in, and ongoing trust between unlikely partners. The effort in Boston had “black and Latin and Cape Verdean clergy working with white Irish Catholic cops in a city that had a history of race relations leading up to that point that was abysmal,” Brown said. “It was really a shift in behavior, in the way we did business.”

My way's better. Execute violent criminals. An executed criminal never reoffends.

Unless, of course, you convict the wrong guy.

 

[Joe Friday]

Most victims of gun violence pull the trigger themselves.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Fine by me, but I still want all the guns, in a hole in the ground.

Gonna collect them yourself?

Hope he starts in Texas.
There's always the chance I'll get lucky....

 

[BULLDOG]

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

Got it. Parties are excluded from ever being considered the site of a mass shooting. Would that include children's birthday parties?

 

[BULLDOG]

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

Only if you call listing mass shootings that didn't kill at least four people lumping everything.

Nope.....gang members shooting other gang members at a party is not what people consider a mass shooting....and you know that, shootingtracker knows it....you are lying....

Tell us, is it a mass shooting when three whities die but to count for darkies it has to be at least six to eight, otherwise it's just a Tuesday night?

Twit...it is a mass shooting when an individual walks into a public space and starts shooting people....it is not a Mass shooting when it is a fight over a drunken dice game at a send off for a thug going to prison...twit....

So it depends on the shooters motivation?

 

[BULLDOG]

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

A word of advice....never, ever trust gun grabber sites...they lie...because they have to lie because the truth, facts and reality do not support their agenda...so if you push their sites...you are helping them spread lies.....

There are no gun grabber sites idiot.Nobody is grabbing your gun.

 

[2aguy]

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

Got it. Parties are excluded from ever being considered the site of a mass shooting. Would that include children's birthday parties?

Yes....keep lying....you know that every normal person understands a mass shooting to be a an individual walking into a public space and shooting people....

But that doesn't yield a high enough death total for the purpose of banning guns....

So now you have to lie....

No one believes that gang bangers drunk and high at a party shooting each other over a dice game counts as a mass shooting.....

But you have to lie because without gang bangers shooting up parties......the grand total of deaths for mass shooters in 2014 is....... 9.

 

[2aguy]

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

Only if you call listing mass shootings that didn't kill at least four people lumping everything.

Nope.....gang members shooting other gang members at a party is not what people consider a mass shooting....and you know that, shootingtracker knows it....you are lying....

Tell us, is it a mass shooting when three whities die but to count for darkies it has to be at least six to eight, otherwise it's just a Tuesday night?

Twit...it is a mass shooting when an individual walks into a public space and starts shooting people....it is not a Mass shooting when it is a fight over a drunken dice game at a send off for a thug going to prison...twit....

So it depends on the shooters motivation?

Let me repeat....everyone understands a "mass shooting" to be an individual walking into a public space, a school, a theater, a mall, a government building, and shooting people...........

Not a mass shooting....

gang bangers at a party, sending off a gang member for a prison term, getting drunk, high and then arguing about a girlfreind or a dice game...and shooting each other......

the first example is what everyone understands to be an actual mass shooting, the other one is how you lie in order to increase your numbers...

 

[2aguy]

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

A word of advice....never, ever trust gun grabber sites...they lie...because they have to lie because the truth, facts and reality do not support their agenda...so if you push their sites...you are helping them spread lies.....

There are no gun grabber sites idiot.Nobody is grabbing your gun.

You keep saying that like you mean it.......

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fine by me, but I still want all the guns, in a hole in the ground.

Well except for the government guns right?

 

[BULLDOG]

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?

No dumb ass.....I want people to know that what they believe to be a mass shooting.....a shooting by someone who walks into a public space and shoots at strangers...is what the shootingtracker is lying about..........

And drunk and high gang bangers shooting at each other at a party is not what people consider a mass public shooting dumb ass......

Don't try the ...."you are insensitive" crap...twit.....you are perpetuating a lie to push your agenda...you have been caught, you have been shown to be lying with your source and now you are trying to weasle out of it.....

Got it. Parties are excluded from ever being considered the site of a mass shooting. Would that include children's birthday parties?

Yes....keep lying....you know that every normal person understands a mass shooting to be a an individual walking into a public space and shooting people....

But that doesn't yield a high enough death total for the purpose of banning guns....

So now you have to lie....

No one believes that gang bangers drunk and high at a party shooting each other over a dice game counts as a mass shooting.....

But you have to lie because without gang bangers shooting up parties......the grand total of deaths for mass shooters in 2014 is....... 9.

Wrong. According to your definition, the tragedy in Colorado yesterday was not a mass shooting. Only three people died.