I had a feeling this would happen.

[Hollie]

So, you're saying that China should be allowed to tariff us but we not them. Even a lot of democrats know that China has been taking advantage of the entire world.

Democrats are limp wristed weenies who enjoy being taken advantage of.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The best score I can offer is a 2/10 for that seedy melodrama.

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When they resort to childish portmanteau words (and think they look clever doing it) it means the panic has arrived.

It's time.


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[IM2]

Opposing these tariffs doesn't mean anyone is siding with China.

 

[Independent thinker]

Democrats are limp wristed weenies who enjoy being taken advantage of.

They have no concept of money. 36 trillion dollars means nothing to them as they have no intention of ever paying it off and are perfectly fine with adding to it at infinitum.

 

[Hollie]

They have no concept of money. 36 trillion dollars means nothing to them as they have no intention of ever paying it off and are perfectly fine with adding to it ad infinitum.

Janet Yellen was proposing that $50 trillion was a democrat target.

 

[Independent thinker]

Janet Yellen was proposing that $50 trillion was a democrat target.

There have been many times where the left tried to get 50 trillion more dollars for the Green New Deal, saying that that was just the beginning. This is one of my favorite clips I have saved:

 

[Vastator]

It turns out, one can make an argument that Nixon and Clinton were wrong, and we should not have opened up trade with China.

Hasn't seemed to work out for us in the long run.

 

[berg80]

There's no gun to anyone's head. Trump is essentially offering a "free trade" deal, to anyone who wants it. It just that simple...

That's the kind of simplistic nonsense that got us in to this mess.

 

[blackhawk]

TDSSSDD THREAD.
I had a feeling this would happen.

 

[berg80]

When I wonder about that, I look to history. Plenty of examples.

There's some kind of weakness existing in people that makes them susceptible to this.

It's no accident we find ourselves being governed by a party comprised of self serving nitwits given the constituency that put them in power.

 

[Lesh]

Which is why I think how trump went about this wasnt right, but I think true reciprocal tariffs were justified

Well guess what? This ain’t that and it’s a disaster

 

[berg80]

They have no concept of money. 36 trillion dollars means nothing to them as they have no intention of ever paying it off and are perfectly fine with adding to it at infinitum.

Wait.........you don't really think what trump is doing will lead to the debt being paid off do you? If he was serious about it he wouldn't be proposing another massive tax cut.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Why didn't tRump take that approach?

Because china needed an incentive to lift their tariffs. If we just lifted ours, china would be like "alrighty...we'll just go back to how it was".

to get to zero tariffs, there needs to be an incentive for everyone else to drop theirs. Maybe reciprocal tariffs will work?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Neither does hundreds of billionbillions/trillion dollar trade deficits for decade with these countries who for decades have been fucking us.

Trade deficits can't always be addressed. With small countries, like Vietnam, they will never be able to match our imports, because they are a small country. But tariffs to allow free trade is something they can do.

Naked criticism is rather hollow if you don't have an alternative.

the tariffs varied depending on their trade practices and iyr trade deficits with them,

Again, trade deficits can't always be fixed. There will always be trade deficits.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Well guess what? This ain’t that and it’s a disaster

It isn't ideal for sure.

 

[yidnar]

Incredible. A global embarrassment.

Trump rejects European Union’s ‘zero-for-zero’ tariff resolution to remove industrial fees on US goods: ‘Not looking at that’

The European Union has floated a “zero-for-zero” tariff resolution with the Trump administration after 20% import levies were imposed by Washington last week.

nypost.com

 

[yidnar]

Trump threatens new 50% tariffs on China if Beijing doesn’t remove retaliatory duties​

• President Donald Trump is threatening new 50% tariffs on China unless Beijing lifts its retaliatory duties on U.S. exports by tomorrow.
• The White House says any suggestion that Trump is considering a 90-day pause in tariffs is “fake news.”
• U.S. markets opened sharply lower Monday for a third trading session, as Trump’s tariffs paralyze global trade and investment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/07/trump-tariffs-live-updates-stock-market-crypto.html

This is just the kind of steady, measured, rational leadership I thought we'd get during trump 2.0.

Trump rejects European Union’s ‘zero-for-zero’ tariff resolution to remove industrial fees on US goods: ‘Not looking at that’

The European Union has floated a “zero-for-zero” tariff resolution with the Trump administration after 20% import levies were imposed by Washington last week.

nypost.com

 

[berg80]

The leading U.S. business lobby warns tariffs could inflict ‘major harm.’​

One of the country’s most influential business lobbies is warning that the sweeping tariffs unveiled by the White House last week will cause “major harm” to manufacturers and workers.

Last week, Joshua Bolten, the chief executive of the Business Roundtable, said that while his group supported the president’s goal of achieving fairer trade deals, the damage to the economy from the measures that President Trump proposed “will increase the longer the tariffs are in place and may be exacerbated by retaliatory measures.”

Trump Tariffs Live Updates: Stocks and Global Markets Waver as Trade War Intensifies

The S&P 500 slipped into bear market territory in early trading but climbed back close to where it opened by the afternoon. President Trump said he would not back off his trade war, reinforcing fears of a global economic downturn.

www.nytimes.com

The problem being the orange menace sees damage to the economy as success.

 

[yidnar]

We need to state the obvious out loud. trump is not of sound mind. So.......what does say about The Following?

Trump rejects European Union’s ‘zero-for-zero’ tariff resolution to remove industrial fees on US goods: ‘Not looking at that’

The European Union has floated a “zero-for-zero” tariff resolution with the Trump administration after 20% import levies were imposed by Washington last week.

nypost.com

 

[Rawley]

Trade deficits can't always be addressed. With small countries, like Vietnam, they will never be able to match our imports, because they are a small country. But tariffs to allow free trade is something they can do.

LOL So you're comfortable with other erecting barriers to our goods. The President and millions of others disagree

Again, trade deficits can't always be fixed. There will always be trade deficits.

How about we try deficits on their part for a while and see what happens