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Photonic,your talking about the interactivity of society,as a human interaction. Im talking about no one else should have to pay for other peoples problems,charity to extend help is a matter of choice,not a government socialist imposition. I will not pay for other peoples self inflicted problems,and nor should anyobe else. Thats the problem with this country.LIBERALS HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND PERSONAL RESPINSIBILITY OF EACH AND EVERY US CITIZEN.
Actually, like it or not, you will.
And that is the difference between you and I. You think picking up the tab for self inflicted problems is a righteous thing to do that that we should be forced to do so. Why?
...I have answers on-
*eliminating the socialist redistributive entitlement called social security.
*eliminate the government imposed taxation.
*having the government truly directly represent the interests of the people,not their own interests....
If I were impolite I'd call this the retard post of the month, maybe year, but I'll be nice. Consider only that option three may contradict, and probably does, for most people contradict options one and two and you realize no thought was behind this OP.
SS is the best thing America has done for America, it far exceeds any charity or other imaginary source of moral care or justice in a civic society, and is the reason the great recession has not caused the havoc, aka poverty, the great depression did. Taxation pays for those bombs you wackos want dropped on everyone else. Next.
I am a true conservative activist and intellect. Rather than argue and haggle,a nation and its people must be independant,and self sufficient,not dependant. A true global community MUST maintain the sovreignty and identity of each nation,like ours,and not the codependant NWO socialist system we are suffering under. I have joined this forum,as an ordinary american,offering solutions.
I have answers on-
*eliminating the socialist redistributive entitlement called social security.
*eliminate the government imposed taxation.
*having the government truly directly represent the interests of the people,not their own interests.
It may seem shocking,but with evolving formulations ot can get done.
would you likevto hear my solutions?
Politics means compromisation of values and structures,and we have no room for it. Its time for leadership.
...I have answers on-
*eliminating the socialist redistributive entitlement called social security.
*eliminate the government imposed taxation.
*having the government truly directly represent the interests of the people,not their own interests....
If I were impolite I'd call this the retard post of the month, maybe year, but I'll be nice. Consider only that option three may contradict, and probably does, for most people contradict options one and two and you realize no thought was behind this OP.
SS is the best thing America has done for America, it far exceeds any charity or other imaginary source of moral care or justice in a civic society, and is the reason the great recession has not caused the havoc, aka poverty, the great depression did. Taxation pays for those bombs you wackos want dropped on everyone else. Next.
Let me give you an example. Social security is a socialist,communist redistribution of wealth. Okay,lets use my situation for example. I had cancer,and i was obese years ago. A self inflicted problem. Did i ask anyone to pay for my medical costs?or burden myaelf to neighbors?hell no. It,again,personal responsibility,and i took it. First off,i paid my own damn medical vills.accepted the fact that my own behavior caused my problem,and changed it. Again,personal responsibility. And also,democracy means choice. If i choose to help spmeone,thats my choice,not an imposition,or an entitlement. Chariry begibs at home. Now,the xhurch across the street from me chooses to help people who truly hace non self inflicted problems,but they CHOOSE,they dont hace the government demand where they or who they help.democraxy us xhouce,socialism is entitlement. I will be a proponent to the destruction of entitlement society,and the rebirth of the free democractic natiob.
Actually, like it or not, you will.
And that is the difference between you and I. You think picking up the tab for self inflicted problems is a righteous thing to do that that we should be forced to do so. Why?
I'm not sure what you mean by "self-inflicted" but I have seen a whole lot of lives turned around thanks to drug and alcohol rehab, bankruptcy debt counseling and help for more than one woman I know trying to raise kids on her own after their husbands took all of the money and ran out on them.
I'll gladly pay taxes to give them the help they need. And anyone who says, "It can never happen to me" lives a charmed fantasy life.
And that is the difference between you and I. You think picking up the tab for self inflicted problems is a righteous thing to do that that we should be forced to do so. Why?
I'm not sure what you mean by "self-inflicted" but I have seen a whole lot of lives turned around thanks to drug and alcohol rehab, bankruptcy debt counseling and help for more than one woman I know trying to raise kids on her own after their husbands took all of the money and ran out on them.
I'll gladly pay taxes to give them the help they need. And anyone who says, "It can never happen to me" lives a charmed fantasy life.
Sorry.to me,substance abuse,and financial mismanagement are self inflicted situations. I know.been thrpugh both myself. But,ill meet you halfway,and say if the citizens on a majority vote decide «hese programs,then the citizens should,not the government.a government deciding its own is taxation without representation.
Btw,the obama supporter,hes an illegal alien president ineligible even «o run,according to the state of georgia,where hes not even on ballot,for lack of valid us identification.god bkess georgia.
At age 65,any vested citizen can receive monthly payments on their investments. Otherwise,withdrawals can only be made once a year,and like a regular savings account,citizens will receive a quarterly statement.
At age 65,any vested citizen can receive monthly payments on their investments. Otherwise,withdrawals can only be made once a year,and like a regular savings account,citizens will receive a quarterly statement.
How much did you lose from your investments with the Bush crash?
I lost quite a bit.
OTOH, I didn't lose a penny from my Social Security account. How 'bout you?
If I were impolite I'd call this the retard post of the month, maybe year, but I'll be nice. Consider only that option three may contradict, and probably does, for most people contradict options one and two and you realize no thought was behind this OP.
SS is the best thing America has done for America, it far exceeds any charity or other imaginary source of moral care or justice in a civic society, and is the reason the great recession has not caused the havoc, aka poverty, the great depression did. Taxation pays for those bombs you wackos want dropped on everyone else. Next.
Let me give you an example. Social security is a socialist,communist redistribution of wealth. Okay,lets use my situation for example. I had cancer,and i was obese years ago. A self inflicted problem. Did i ask anyone to pay for my medical costs?or burden myaelf to neighbors?hell no. It,again,personal responsibility,and i took it. First off,i paid my own damn medical vills.accepted the fact that my own behavior caused my problem,and changed it. Again,personal responsibility. And also,democracy means choice. If i choose to help spmeone,thats my choice,not an imposition,or an entitlement. Chariry begibs at home. Now,the xhurch across the street from me chooses to help people who truly hace non self inflicted problems,but they CHOOSE,they dont hace the government demand where they or who they help.democraxy us xhouce,socialism is entitlement. I will be a proponent to the destruction of entitlement society,and the rebirth of the free democractic natiob.
Lol, did you have medical insurance?
DID YOU HAVE A DOCTOR?!
Unless you were paying for that Doctors salary, you were a beneficiary of the system.
Bull shit. He/she just gained some.I'm not sure what you mean by "self-inflicted" but I have seen a whole lot of lives turned around thanks to drug and alcohol rehab, bankruptcy debt counseling and help for more than one woman I know trying to raise kids on her own after their husbands took all of the money and ran out on them.
I'll gladly pay taxes to give them the help they need. And anyone who says, "It can never happen to me" lives a charmed fantasy life.
Sorry.to me,substance abuse,and financial mismanagement are self inflicted situations. I know.been thrpugh both myself. But,ill meet you halfway,and say if the citizens on a majority vote decide «hese programs,then the citizens should,not the government.a government deciding its own is taxation without representation.
Btw,the obama supporter,hes an illegal alien president ineligible even «o run,according to the state of georgia,where hes not even on ballot,for lack of valid us identification.god bkess georgia.
Wow, if you ever had any credibility in your inane posts, you lost it entirely.
let me give you an example. Social security is a socialist,communist redistribution of wealth. Okay,lets use my situation for example. I had cancer,and i was obese years ago. A self inflicted problem. Did i ask anyone to pay for my medical costs?or burden myaelf to neighbors?hell no. It,again,personal responsibility,and i took it. First off,i paid my own damn medical vills.accepted the fact that my own behavior caused my problem,and changed it. Again,personal responsibility. And also,democracy means choice. If i choose to help spmeone,thats my choice,not an imposition,or an entitlement. Chariry begibs at home. Now,the xhurch across the street from me chooses to help people who truly hace non self inflicted problems,but they choose,they dont hace the government demand where they or who they help.democraxy us xhouce,socialism is entitlement. I will be a proponent to the destruction of entitlement society,and the rebirth of the free democractic natiob.
lol, did you have medical insurance?
Did you have a doctor?!
Unless you were paying for that doctors salary, you were a beneficiary of the system.
hello.private sector.liberty mutual insurance,copay with my company,no freakin tax dollars.
Actually, like it or not, you will.
Its time to change. Citizens do not need the selfgreed of big brother liberals to tell us to handle our economies.
I share many of your opinions vampiric68, but hey, a little friendly tip, download Firefox and use it for your browser. It has a built in spell checker. I know lots of people never took typing in school and/or just never leaned how, but Firefox can help you at least look as intelligent as you'd like to appear.
At age 65,any vested citizen can receive monthly payments on their investments. Otherwise,withdrawals can only be made once a year,and like a regular savings account,citizens will receive a quarterly statement.
How much did you lose from your investments with the Bush crash?
I lost quite a bit.
OTOH, I didn't lose a penny from my Social Security account. How 'bout you?
What's ironic here is that no one in the US can claim to not be a beneficiary of the system in some way or another. In fact, it would be rare for the average person to live past the age of 30 if they weren't. Funny how that works.
No taxpayer had to pay for my problems.define your argument. I didnt say beneficiary,im sticking to the point of government dependance and imposition on working citizens and the elimination of sych,and the acceptance of personal responsibility. I earned the job i had,private sector,that private sector chose a medical plan,funded agaib,private sector,by copays me,abd the company.no socualism or imposition involved.
lol, did you have medical insurance?
Did you have a doctor?!
Unless you were paying for that doctors salary, you were a beneficiary of the system.
hello.private sector.liberty mutual insurance,copay with my company,no freakin tax dollars.
Hahaha! You are the beneficiary of other peoples money you hypocrite!
So it's stupid to use available technology?Its time to change. Citizens do not need the selfgreed of big brother liberals to tell us to handle our economies.
I share many of your opinions vampiric68, but hey, a little friendly tip, download Firefox and use it for your browser. It has a built in spell checker. I know lots of people never took typing in school and/or just never leaned how, but Firefox can help you at least look as intelligent as you'd like to appear.
Good advice and one that all Repubs use -
Anything to look a tiny bit smarter than you really are.
You rw's a real hoot. This has been the funniest and dumbest thread I've seen in a while.
No taxpayer had to pay for my problems.define your argument. I didnt say beneficiary,im sticking to the point of government dependance and imposition on working citizens and the elimination of sych,and the acceptance of personal responsibility. I earned the job i had,private sector,that private sector chose a medical plan,funded agaib,private sector,by copays me,abd the company.no socualism or imposition involved.
No taxpayer had to pay for my problems.define your argument. I didnt say beneficiary,im sticking to the point of government dependance and imposition on working citizens and the elimination of sych,and the acceptance of personal responsibility. I earned the job i had,private sector,that private sector chose a medical plan,funded agaib,private sector,by copays me,abd the company.no socualism or imposition involved.
You don't believe in the social contract, but by your own admission you use the social contract. Make up your mind.
And that is the difference between you and I. You think picking up the tab for self inflicted problems is a righteous thing to do that that we should be forced to do so. Why?
I'm not sure what you mean by "self-inflicted" but I have seen a whole lot of lives turned around thanks to drug and alcohol rehab, bankruptcy debt counseling and help for more than one woman I know trying to raise kids on her own after their husbands took all of the money and ran out on them.
I'll gladly pay taxes to give them the help they need. And anyone who says, "It can never happen to me" lives a charmed fantasy life.
Sorry.to me,substance abuse,and financial mismanagement are self inflicted situations. I know.been thrpugh both myself. But,ill meet you halfway,and say if the citizens on a majority vote decide «hese programs,then the citizens should,not the government.a government deciding its own is taxation without representation.
Btw,the obama supporter,hes an illegal alien president ineligible even «o run,according to the state of georgia,where hes not even on ballot,for lack of valid us identification.god bkess georgia.
No taxpayer had to pay for my problems.define your argument. I didnt say beneficiary,im sticking to the point of government dependance and imposition on working citizens and the elimination of sych,and the acceptance of personal responsibility. I earned the job i had,private sector,that private sector chose a medical plan,funded agaib,private sector,by copays me,abd the company.no socualism or imposition involved.
