Zone1 If you want to understand who Musk and Trump truly are, this is the thread.

[Lisa558]

Some beings have very simple philosophies on life:

Cats: “Change is bad; the same is good.”

Dogs: “The most fun thing in the whole wide world is sticking my head out the car window.”

Leftists: “Rich people are evil.”

 

[luiza]

As a well brought up lady I have always wondered exactly what the term , Pricks , referred to -- apart from the literal .

Now I know .
There are a couple scribbling furiously in this children's thread .

 

[Dante]

S&P what? A mutual fund?? That would all depend on which stocks in the S&P 500.
You do understand that not all the stocks in the S&P 500 make money....or do you?
He invested in property and became a multi billionaire instead.
case closed

Trump's wealth did not come from investments in property.

What Trump was hiding when he kept reneging on his promise to release his tax returns as a other president's of eh modern era have done (it's how we know exactly how the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens accumulated wealth - contrary to bs far right narratives).

The President’s Taxes

How Reality-TV Fame Handed Trump a $427 Million Lifeline - such a great investor he's needed many lifelines as bankruptcy kept rearing it's ugly head for the self-proclaimed King of Debt

Tax records show that “The Apprentice” rescued Donald J. Trump, bringing him new sources of cash and a myth that would propel him to the White House.​

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From the back seat of a stretch limousine heading to meet the first contestants for his new TV show “The Apprentice,” Donald J. Trump bragged that he was a billionaire who had overcome financial hardship.​

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“I used my brain, I used my negotiating skills and I worked it all out,” he told viewers. “Now, my company is bigger than it ever was and stronger than it ever was.”​

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It was all a hoax. ​

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Months after that inaugural episode in January 2004, Mr. Trump filed his individual tax return reporting $89.9 million in net losses from his core businesses for the prior year. The red ink spilled from everywhere, even as American television audiences saw him as a savvy business mogul with the Midas touch.​

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Twelve years later, that image of the self-made, self-saved mogul, beamed into the national consciousness, would help fuel Mr. Trump’s improbable election to the White House.​

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But while the story of “The Apprentice” is by now well known, the president’s tax returns reveal another grand twist that has never been truly told — how the popularity of that fictional alter ego rescued him, providing a financial lifeline to reinvent himself yet again. And then how, in an echo of the boom-and-bust cycle that has defined his business career, he led himself toward the financial shoals he must navigate today.​

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Mr. Trump’s genius, it turned out, wasn’t running a company. It was making himself famous — Trump-scale famous — and monetizing that fame.​

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[Dante]

Some beings have very simple philosophies on life:

Cats: “Change is bad; the same is good.”

Dogs: “The most fun thing in the whole wide world is sticking my head out the car window.”

Leftists: “Rich people are evil.”

As a well brought up lady I have always wondered exactly what the term , Pricks , referred to -- apart from the literal .

Now I know .
There are a couple scribbling furiously in this children's thread .

...

 

[Dante]

Musk is to Blame - Trump Getting a Pass. None of us want to say "I told you so"

Representative Pete Sessions fielded a barrage of frustration from constituents at a town-hall meeting in Trinity, Texas, on Saturday.Credit...Mark Felix for The New York Times

I see people seem to have been triggered by mere mentions of Trump and wealth. What I don;t see here in this thread is some defense of the Musks and their...


It's as if Musk will eventually be a fall guy when the blame game begins.

After a monthlong honeymoon for the G.O.P. at the start of President Trump’s term, lawmakers are confronting a groundswell of fear and disaffection in districts around the country.

Louis Smith, a veteran who lives in East Texas, told Mr. Sessions that he agreed with the effort to root out excessive spending, but he criticized the way it was being handled and presented to the public.​

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“I like what you’re saying, but you need to tell more people,” Mr. Smith said. “The guy in South Africa is not doing you any good — he’s hurting you more than he’s helping,” he added, referring to Mr. Musk and drawing nods and applause from many in the room.​

Trump get a pass. Musk is to blame.

The point is how it will all end with the two Bored Wealthy Guys playing "Watch what I can do."

Dante has a prediction, based on history:

Then again, I highly doubt Musk cares much. He can always go back to whatever it is was doing - fighting with governments all over the world because he demands his way or the highway.

 

[Meister]

Trump's wealth did not come from investments in property.

What Trump was hiding when he kept reneging on his promise to release his tax returns as a other president's of eh modern era have done (it's how we know exactly how the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens accumulated wealth - contrary to bs far right narratives).

The President’s Taxes

How Reality-TV Fame Handed Trump a $427 Million Lifeline - such a great investor he's needed many lifelines as bankruptcy kept rearing it's ugly head for the self-proclaimed King of Debt

Tax records show that “The Apprentice” rescued Donald J. Trump, bringing him new sources of cash and a myth that would propel him to the White House.​

​

From the back seat of a stretch limousine heading to meet the first contestants for his new TV show “The Apprentice,” Donald J. Trump bragged that he was a billionaire who had overcome financial hardship.​

​

“I used my brain, I used my negotiating skills and I worked it all out,” he told viewers. “Now, my company is bigger than it ever was and stronger than it ever was.”​

​

It was all a hoax. ​

​

Months after that inaugural episode in January 2004, Mr. Trump filed his individual tax return reporting $89.9 million in net losses from his core businesses for the prior year. The red ink spilled from everywhere, even as American television audiences saw him as a savvy business mogul with the Midas touch.​

​

Twelve years later, that image of the self-made, self-saved mogul, beamed into the national consciousness, would help fuel Mr. Trump’s improbable election to the White House.​

​

But while the story of “The Apprentice” is by now well known, the president’s tax returns reveal another grand twist that has never been truly told — how the popularity of that fictional alter ego rescued him, providing a financial lifeline to reinvent himself yet again. And then how, in an echo of the boom-and-bust cycle that has defined his business career, he led himself toward the financial shoals he must navigate today.​

​

Mr. Trump’s genius, it turned out, wasn’t running a company. It was making himself famous — Trump-scale famous — and monetizing that fame.​

​

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