"IRONY" Joe Biden says "the supreme court decisions lets Presidents ignore the law". I guess Joe Biden's memory really is going.

[pknopp]

If a president is guilty of criminal activity, there is a process called impeachment and a Senate trial for his/her removal from office. So any president is not a king that cannot be removed as a result of high crimes and misdemeanors. This is what Chief Justice Roberts wrote :

“A President inclined to take one course of action based on the public interest may instead opt for another, apprehensive that criminal penalties may befall him upon his departure from office.” Later, he details the principles involved. “Taking into account these competing considerations, we conclude that the separation of powers principles explicated in our precedent necessitate at least a presumptive immunity from criminal prosecution for a President’s acts within the outer perimeter of his official responsibility,” he notes. “Such an immunity is required to safeguard the independence and effective functioning of the Executive Branch, and to enable the President to carry out his constitutional duties without undue caution. Indeed, if presumptive protection for the President is necessary to enable the ‘effective discharge’ of his powers when a prosecutor merely seeks evidence of his official papers and communications, it is certainly necessary when the prosecutor seeks to charge, try, and imprison the President himself for his official actions. At a minimum, the President must therefore be immune from prosecution for an official act unless the Government can show that applying a criminal prohibition to that act would pose no ‘dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.’”

You are focusing just on Trump based on your TDS, instead of the long view of how every president needs to do his job and how his political foes should not have the ability to hinder his actions unless the prosecution can show that 'applying a criminal prohibition to that act would pose no ‘dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.’

We've seen Congrees ignore illegal acts.

Bush OK'd torture.

 

[struth]

We've seen Congrees ignore illegal acts.

Bush OK'd torture.

What US Law says it's illegal for the President to torture people we are at war with and outside the United State's jurisdiction?

 

[pknopp]

What US Law says it's illegal for the President to torture people we are at war with and outside the United State's jurisdiction?

You'll defend anything it seems.

 

[struth]

You'll defend anything it seems.

I am just asking, if you can't come up with one, then i am not sure why that is relevent here.

a better argument would be something done on US soil, like when FDR locked up Americans for simply being Asian. Congress did nothing about it, without the idea of soveign immunity, if the next president didn't liek FDR, could he of prosecuted him for all those kidnappings?

 

[Edgetho]

Look, dimocrap SCUM brought this decision on themselves. For 235 years we went without having a SCOTUS decision on Presidential Immunity. But, dimocrap scum persisted in their wholly unconstitutional and unAmerican (like their whole party) pursuit of Lawfare against -- NOT a former but President but A CURRENT CANDIDATE for the Office of POTUS.

You need to understand something, if you don't understand anything else in this life -- dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. I'm not just saying that to get a rise out of people or to be snide, they are. dimocraps are truly the scummiest scumbag motherfuckers to ever walk the Earth.

ALL of them. dimocrap scum voters are accomplices before, during and after the fact. They value their ONE (1), Uno, Single-Issue more than they value this Country and the rest of the People that live in it.

Whether it's their right to murder their own babies, to sodomize each other, the get their 'College' edumucashun (aka, a fuckfest) paid for at taxpayer expense, foodstamps because they're too stupid to get a paying job so they just get preggo and go on the goobermint dime and become a social parasite....... Whatever. The voters are just as much scumbags as the scumbags they vote for.

Until we realize that, as a country, this all just a waste of time.

 

[Edgetho]

What US Law says it's illegal for the President to torture people we are at war with and outside the United State's jurisdiction?

Whenever dimocrap scum are backed into a corner, they turn what passes for a brain off and let their assholes talk for them. For most of them, it is their only working part anyway

 

[task0778]

We've seen Congrees ignore illegal acts.

Bush OK'd torture.

Whose fault is it when the Congress does not do it's duty?

Andrew Jackson was not prosecuted for the outrages of the trail of tears. Franklin Roosevelt was not prosecuted for the internment of ethnic Japanese residents of the United States. Bill Clinton was not prosecuted for pardoning donor Marc Rich. Presidents have long committed arguably criminal conduct in their official acts, but none have been prosecuted until now and our democracy has been better for it.

The difference now is that the Democratic Party has decided that Trump must be prevented at any cost from winning the presidential election and that abusing the criminal justice system and lying about the current president’s mental health are all justified toward that political end.

Note that the Court rejected Mr. Trump’s claim that all presidential acts have absolute immunity. The Chief writes that a President has only “presumptive immunity” from prosecution for official acts outside of his core constitutional powers, and that unofficial acts have no immunity. Mr. Trump couldn’t shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, as he once joked, and be immune.

 

[Hollie]

Quite the sorry joke as "reprehensible Joe" continues to ignore immigration law as Americans are killed because of his actions.

 

[pknopp]

I am just asking, if you can't come up with one, then i am not sure why that is relevent here.

a better argument would be something done on US soil, like when FDR locked up Americans for simply being Asian. Congress did nothing about it, without the idea of soveign immunity, if the next president didn't liek FDR, could he of prosecuted him for all those kidnappings?

He should have been.

 

[pknopp]

Whose fault is it when the Congress does not do it's duty?

Congress and ours.

Andrew Jackson was not prosecuted for the outrages of the trail of tears. Franklin Roosevelt was not prosecuted for the internment of ethnic Japanese residents of the United States. Bill Clinton was not prosecuted for pardoning donor Marc Rich. Presidents have long committed arguably criminal conduct in their official acts, but none have been prosecuted until now and our democracy has been better for it.

I disagree.

The difference now is that the Democratic Party has decided that Trump must be prevented at any cost from winning the presidential election and that abusing the criminal justice system and lying about the current president’s mental health are all justified toward that political end.

Note that the Court rejected Mr. Trump’s claim that all presidential acts have absolute immunity. The Chief writes that a President has only “presumptive immunity” from prosecution for official acts outside of his core constitutional powers, and that unofficial acts have no immunity. Mr. Trump couldn’t shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, as he once joked, and be immune.

I care less about Trump.

 

[Oddball]

 

[struth]

He should have been.

Haha ooook

 

[whitehall]

Does Biden even understand the law? The Supreme Court affirmed the Constitutional protection for the president. If the opposition party was allowed to bring criminal charges against the president every time they disagreed with an official decision, the United States would become nothing but a Banana Republic. Maybe that's what democrats prefer.

 

[pknopp]

Does Biden even understand the law? The Supreme Court affirmed the Constitutional protection for the president.

Where in the Constitution do we find these?

If the opposition party was allowed to bring criminal charges against the president every time they disagreed with an official decision, the United States would become nothing but a Banana Republic. Maybe that's what democrats prefer.

Irrelevant.