Is a Travel Ban by Any President Constitutional?

[federalist50]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

 

[yiostheoy]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

Right now the SCOTUS is 4 to 4 on just about any issue.

Therefore they are likely to tie on just about any issue.

Therefore any Fed judge can tie DJT's hands for an indefinite period of time.

That is how the judicial politics works out on this issue right now.

It is a far left food fight at the moment until they clear out the cafeteria with a new SCOTUS appointment.

 

[Jackson]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

Right now the SCOTUS is 4 to 4 on just about any issue.

Therefore they are likely to tie on just about any issue.

Therefore any Fed judge can tie DJT's hands for an indefinite period of time.

That is how the judicial politics works out on this issue right now.

It is a far left food fight at the moment until they clear out the cafeteria with a new SCOTUS appointment.

IOW, "Elections have consequences," Right, Hussein?

 

[brummelben]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

The ruling has been made, and as usual trump attempts to belittle a federal judge who disagreed with him

 

[Jackson]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

The ruling has been made, and as usual trump attempts to belittle a federal judge who disagreed with him

belittle??? LOL.

 

[brummelben]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

The ruling has been made, and as usual trump attempts to belittle a federal judge who disagreed with him

belittle??? LOL.

Definition of belittle
belittled
;
belittling
transitive verb

• 1: to speak slightingly of : disparage <belittles her efforts>

• 2: to cause (a person or thing) to seem little or less <a curiosity so vast that it almost belittled the main matter — Mark Twain>

belittlement
play \-ˈli-təl-mənt\ noun
belittler
play \-ˈli-təl-ər, -ˈlit-lər\ noun

 

[BluesLegend]

Obama banned travel from countries due to an Ebola outbreak to ensure the safety and security of Americans and their families.

Now, intelligence agencies informed president Trump that terrorists are trying to slip into the US with refuges from certain countries and that those refuges cannot be vetted. President Trump therefore implemented a temporary travel ban on those countries no different than Obama's ban.

 

[Jackson]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

The ruling has been made, and as usual trump attempts to belittle a federal judge who disagreed with him

belittle??? LOL.

Definition of belittle
belittled
;
belittling
transitive verb

• 1: to speak slightingly of : disparage <belittles her efforts>

• 2: to cause (a person or thing) to seem little or less <a curiosity so vast that it almost belittled the main matter — Mark Twain>

belittlement
play \-ˈli-təl-mənt\ noun
belittler
play \-ˈli-təl-ər, -ˈlit-lər\ noun

I know what it means, silly. I just don't think it is appropriate. Either the President is right or the Judge is. President Trump has the written law on his side as demonstrated in the OP.

 

[brummelben]

Obama banned travel from countries due to an Ebola outbreak to ensure the safety and security of Americans and their families.

Now, intelligence agencies informed president Trump that terrorists are trying to slip into the US with refuges from certain countries and that those refuges cannot be vetted. President Trump therefore implemented a temporary travel ban on those countries no different than Obama's ban.

What intelligence agency said anything like that? Every refugee who comes to this country is vetted, or they don't come

 

[BluesLegend]

Even Democrat legal scholars say Trump's travel ban is absolutely constitutional. There was one small section that needed some tweaking regarding right to counsel which was corrected. It is now perfectly lawful.

This notion that some mid level judge who receives no national security briefings can overrule the POTUS on national security matters is dangerous.

 

[Jackson]

Obama banned travel from countries due to an Ebola outbreak to ensure the safety and security of Americans and their families.

Now, intelligence agencies informed president Trump that terrorists are trying to slip into the US with refuges from certain countries and that those refuges cannot be vetted. President Trump therefore implemented a temporary travel ban on those countries no different than Obama's ban.

Further evidence that a precedent was set. Thank you.

 

[brummelben]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

The ruling has been made, and as usual trump attempts to belittle a federal judge who disagreed with him

belittle??? LOL.

Definition of belittle
belittled
;
belittling
transitive verb

• 1: to speak slightingly of : disparage <belittles her efforts>

• 2: to cause (a person or thing) to seem little or less <a curiosity so vast that it almost belittled the main matter — Mark Twain>

belittlement
play \-ˈli-təl-mənt\ noun
belittler
play \-ˈli-təl-ər, -ˈlit-lər\ noun

I know what it means, silly. I just don't think it is appropriate. Either the President is right or the Judge is. President Trump has the written law on his side as demonstrated in the OP.

Since neither you or I are attorneys and since neither of us has read the judges decision, don't pretend that Trump has the law on his side, or else just indicate its only your opinion

 

[BluesLegend]

Obama banned travel from countries due to an Ebola outbreak to ensure the safety and security of Americans and their families.

Now, intelligence agencies informed president Trump that terrorists are trying to slip into the US with refuges from certain countries and that those refuges cannot be vetted. President Trump therefore implemented a temporary travel ban on those countries no different than Obama's ban.

What intelligence agency said anything like that? Every refugee who comes to this country is vetted, or they don't come

Good grief, the director of the FBI testified to this fact before congress. Avoid voting or operating a motor vehicle.

 

[brummelben]

Even Democrat legal scholars say Trump's travel ban is absolutely constitutional. There was one small section that needed some tweaking regarding right to counsel which was corrected. It is now perfectly lawful.

This notion that some mid level judge who receives no national security briefings can overrule the POTUS on national security matters is dangerous.

Thats why we have separate but equal branches of government. To keep any President from becoming a dictator.
You probably weren't very upset when several Obama decisions were overturned by the judiciary

 

[brummelben]

Obama banned travel from countries due to an Ebola outbreak to ensure the safety and security of Americans and their families.

Now, intelligence agencies informed president Trump that terrorists are trying to slip into the US with refuges from certain countries and that those refuges cannot be vetted. President Trump therefore implemented a temporary travel ban on those countries no different than Obama's ban.

What intelligence agency said anything like that? Every refugee who comes to this country is vetted, or they don't come

Looks like you don't have a reply

 

[brummelben]

Obama banned travel from countries due to an Ebola outbreak to ensure the safety and security of Americans and their families.

Now, intelligence agencies informed president Trump that terrorists are trying to slip into the US with refuges from certain countries and that those refuges cannot be vetted. President Trump therefore implemented a temporary travel ban on those countries no different than Obama's ban.

What intelligence agency said anything like that? Every refugee who comes to this country is vetted, or they don't come

Good grief, the director of the FBI testified to this fact before congress. Avoid voting or operating a motor vehicle.

What testimony was that?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bans can be constittuional, but are not, automatically, because a President's EO is a ban. The EO has to follow the law.

 

[brummelben]

Bans can be constittuional, but are not, automatically, because a President's EO is a ban. The EO has to follow the law.

Obama's executive orders were all illegal according to the Right, but for Trump he can issue all he wants, no big deal

 

[forkup]

Well the Congress in 1952 answered that question when they passed the McCarren-Walter Act, other wise known as the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This law allows for the "Suspension of entry, or impositions of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interest's of the United States. The President, by proclamation, and for such a period of time he may deem necessary, may suspend the entry of aliens, or any class of aliens as immigrants, or non-immigrants, or impose restrictions on entry of aliens as he may deem to be appropriate."

President Carter imposed a travel ban for Iranians during the 1979 "Hostage Crisis." He also required Iranian students already in the Unites States to register with the government. Seven thousand were in violation of their Visa's and 15 thousand Iranians were deported. In 2011 when the FBI discovered that two Iraqi refugees were determined to be cell members of al Queda President Obama imposed a six month ban on Visa's.

The question I'm wondering about, is will the federal and, or SC judges rule on the constitutionality of President Trumps current travel ban by their own personal opinion or by exisiting U.S. law?

What I'm wondering is why a party, trying to sell itself as the protectors of the constitution feel judges should adhere to whatever the administration wants? I mean the founding fathers set up the government that the executive power decides on what laws it wants to enact and that the judicial branch decides on what is constitutional . You seem to think it a political decision when the whole point of the judicial branch is that it is above politics.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Yes.