Leftism: The Perpetual, Universal, Mistake

[NYcarbineer]

this thread might fare better in the badlands

Let's see....what do Leftists do when confronted with the truth?

Ah, yes.... silence it, marginalize it....hide it.


I'll count your post as validation of the thesis.

No. Liberals comprehensively refute your nonsense to the point where you have to run and hide from them.

But the pummeling goes on.

So why do you stay.....

Watching you get pummeled gets old.

I'll debate you one on one on any topic.

hell yea! I love one on ones!

"All of them demand that the individual bend the knee and submit to the dictates of big, unimpeded, government."
Please tell me how a stateless society fits into that?
"distinctions without differences."

I like how you didn't acknowledge about the conservatives. I assume you concede?

.....would you like to deny this: "...you may choose to call it communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism....
...or, simply use the generic...'Leftism'....no matter.
Any differences are mere technicalities, distinctions without differences...




.......none favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Deny it....or the Liberal ignore it?

you got that part right. So you only HALF failed.
Why do you keep calling me a liberal? Are you retarded?

"Why do you keep calling me a liberal? Are you retarded?"

The use of that term is an identifier of Liberals...

Gore once accused his political enemies of possessing "an extra chromosome," a remark that infuriated the families of persons with Down Syndrome, which is caused by the presence of an extra chromosome. http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/miller200406010833.asp

yep, you are retarded. No wonder you don't want one on one debate

"No wonder you don't want one on one debate."


We just did.
And you were destroyed.

Clearly you wish this to be the equivalent of starting a patty-cake game with a three year old...it never ends.

This one did....and you were beaten as badly as Carthage in the Third Punic War.

Try to learn from it.

The above is what happens when you cross Ignorance with Arrogance...

 

[Sun Devil 92]

this thread might fare better in the badlands

Let's see....what do Leftists do when confronted with the truth?

Ah, yes.... silence it, marginalize it....hide it.


I'll count your post as validation of the thesis.

No. Liberals comprehensively refute your nonsense to the point where you have to run and hide from them.

But the pummeling goes on.

So why do you stay.....

Watching you get pummeled gets old.

I'll debate you one on one on any topic.

Go to the Bull Ring and issue your challenge.

Do it according to the rules.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

OP doesn't realize conservatives used to support a social hierarchy...

You'd need a chart to follow the evolution of these terms through the years.

The founders were classical liberals...in one sense.....

But people fail to realize they attempted to preserve the status quo for a long long time.

It was only when they thought they would get no compromise that they decided to revolt.

They thought about things a long long very long time.

Wish the left would have given 1/100th the thought to Obamacare.

I agree. They change with the wind. I still think it is important, that when you are as arrogant as she is, to know the basics. lol

I notice that you've attempted to ignore this............. But, I'm not going to allow you to. Instead, I'm going to pound the stake through your heart like the walking intellectually dead that you are.

.....would you like to deny this: "...you may choose to call it communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism....
...or, simply use the generic...'Leftism'....no matter.
Any differences are mere technicalities, distinctions without differences...




.......none favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Deny it....or the Liberal ignore it?

Which brings with it a host of other considerations.....

The left can't seem to get their minds around the fact that a limited constitutional government is a federal government.

States can then do as they please as long as it does not tread on the responsiblities of the fed.

So, you could have a fascist.....nazi-like state government (we did in the south for a long long time) and it is perfectly fine.

Don't like it....don't live there....I left CA for that reason.

We have a federal government where the federal government is supreme. Read your Constitution.

Yes, and the 10th amendment was written just for fun.

And spare me the supremacy clause argument...we all know how that one works.

I've read the U.S. Constitution...why don't you find one that hasn't been adulterated to read like the bed-time stories your caretaker at the orphanage read to you.

 

[boedicca]

The history of humanity is replete with the agendas and atrocities of those who wish to enslave others and to feed off of their forced productivity. Present Day Leftism is just a rebranding of this ancient violence.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The history of humanity is replete with the agendas and atrocities of those who wish to enslave others and to feed off of their forced productivity. Present Day Leftism is just a rebranding of this ancient violence.

Humanity....packaged with the seeds of our own destruction.

The revelations of Nazis and Soviet collectivism, well over 100 million slaughtered.....
yet....the Liberals, the neo-Marxists......carry on.

 

[boedicca]

The history of humanity is replete with the agendas and atrocities of those who wish to enslave others and to feed off of their forced productivity. Present Day Leftism is just a rebranding of this ancient violence.

Humanity....packaged with the seeds of our own destruction.

The revelations of Nazis and Soviet collectivism, well over 100 million slaughtered.....
yet....the Liberals, the neo-Marxists......carry on.

Death by Government lays this out very effectively:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

 

[Sun Devil 92]

this thread might fare better in the badlands

Let's see....what do Leftists do when confronted with the truth?

Ah, yes.... silence it, marginalize it....hide it.


I'll count your post as validation of the thesis.

No. Liberals comprehensively refute your nonsense to the point where you have to run and hide from them.

But the pummeling goes on.

So why do you stay.....

Watching you get pummeled gets old.

I'll debate you one on one on any topic.

Oh, and I don't see you calling out PoliticalChic ot debate her one on one.

All you do is come to her threads and post the same steaming pile of crap.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The history of humanity is replete with the agendas and atrocities of those who wish to enslave others and to feed off of their forced productivity. Present Day Leftism is just a rebranding of this ancient violence.

Humanity....packaged with the seeds of our own destruction.

The revelations of Nazis and Soviet collectivism, well over 100 million slaughtered.....
yet....the Liberals, the neo-Marxists......carry on.

Death by Government lays this out very effectively:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Wow....great link!!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. The horror that is modern Uzbekistan....horror for its citizens....is merely the extension of Stalin's Soviet Union.

"According to the new reports on violations on human rights in Uzbekistan prove that violations are still going on without any improvement." World Report 2015: Uzbekistan | Human Rights Watch. Hrw.org. (20 March 2016.)



But, then....so is much of modern America. Since Stalin won WWII, as a result of the tireless efforts of Franklin Roosevelt, Western Civilization has been guided by Stalin's dream of international socialism...that is the definition of communism....via the United Nations.

The U.N. charter was authored by a communist, the first U.N. Secretary-general was a communist, and the U.N., from the beginning, was designed to be a Union of World Socialist Republics.



Stalin's spy, Alger Hiss was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done. He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. (His death came only ten weeks later). At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one.

.... three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy and sent to prison. Only then did people understand why the emblem of the United Nations looked so much like the emblem of the Soviet Union." What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

It is the United Nations, along with the Democrat Party, that pushes the plans designed to end Unites States' sovereignty....Global Warming.



BTW....97% of Democrats support the United Nations. United Nations Poll Results for Democrats

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. The key to understanding Leftist is this: every permutation of Leftism is about honoring Hegel's dictum:

“The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest” (Ralf Dahrendorf, Society and Democracy in Germany).



They may change the title, and misdirect the viewer by promises of all sorts of material rewards, but in every case, Leftism is collectivism, and the priority of the government over the individual.


If you have succumbed to the indoctrination, you believe that there are no unalienable right....only those that government allows you.....and can remove at will.

Which, then, are Leftist?

Stalin's Soviet Union

Uzbekistan

The Democrat Party, ...think $135,000 fine for refusing to bake a cake,

or imposition of ObamaCare....


Yes.....all are Leftist.



And, which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?


Again....none of them.


How far behind will the construction of concentration camps be.....after all, the demigod of Democrats/Liberal has already done it to lock up American citizens.

 

[Moonglow]

The Founders were conservatives? So much for any credibility of the OP...

Watch how quickly I reveal you to be a lying, uneducated twit.


Now....the Founders, they were Classical Liberals....known today as conservatives.

Their fundamental ideas were based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

No socialists, communists, Nazis, Liberals, fascists, nor Progressives can make that claim.


Stop lying....do your best.

They were not, since they owned slaves they could not be liberals, according to how you judge what happened in the past to today's morals....

 

[Moonglow]

PROPAGANDA: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

THE BIG LIE: "All of them demand that the individual bend the knee and submit to the dictates of big, unimpeded, government."

As is true in every avenue of your life,...'you're a day late and a penny short.'

Well....perhaps not a day...but, certainly late.

This was in post #10:
Whether Uzbekistan, or China, or Russia..... or the current administration of the United States? .....what do they have in common?

Of course: they abhor the principles upon which the United States was founded:

individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Conservative principles.


It aborted your post before you gave birth to it.


Or....would you like to deny this: "...you may choose to call it communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism....
...or, simply use the generic...'Leftism'....no matter.
Any differences are mere technicalities, distinctions without differences.....none favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Please do...so that all can see that you are a liar, as well as a slow-witted dolt.

A limited Constitutional govt. died when the GOP expanded the power of the federal govt. during and after the Civil War..

 

[Moonglow]

“The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest” (Ralf Dahrendorf, Society and Democracy in Germany).

Sounds like military duty to me..Something you have never experienced...

 

[Mindful]

Mother Jones being a perfect example.