“Listen Carefully it’s Actually Much Darker”: How the Left is Framing Free Speech as a Front for Fascism

[Marener]

Is it any different with Marxist Communism?

Probably not. You’re helping make the point. Authoritarians use free speech on their path to domination.

 

[Marener]

You use your free speech to convince people they are wrong.

If that doesn’t work?

 

[Rawley]

If that doesn’t work?

Your arguments suck. Try better ones.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What happens when the fascists use free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?

The word fascist has an actual meaning.

I would suggest you learn it so you do not seem so silly.

 

[Marener]

Your arguments suck. Try better ones.

Labeling them my arguments implies your arguments are the fascist ones.

 

[Marener]

The word fascist has an actual meaning.

I would suggest you learn it so you do not seem so silly.

What was silly about my post?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Probably not. You’re helping make the point. Authoritarians use free speech on their path to domination.

The American People use their Constitutional right of free speech to tell fascist democrats to GO FUCK THEMSELVES if they propose to restrict that right.

So, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

 

[Rawley]

Labeling them my arguments implies your arguments are the fascist ones.

Did you read the OP? Your party is pushing the idea that if you are in favor of free speech, you are a fascist. So, in your cult's eyes, I'm the fascist.

 

[Marener]

Did you read the OP? Your party is pushing the idea that if you are in favor of free speech, you are a fascist. So, in your cult's eyes, I'm the fascist.

You’re confused. We are saying that fascists have used free speech to gain power. That’s true. And triggering to you.

 

[martybegan]

Good plan, but far from full proof.

Sometimes people are convinced that fascism is good.

Would you apply the same restrictions to communism and socialism?

 

[MisterBeale]

If that doesn’t work?

It is because the economy and liberty are being destroyed.


First folks care about the economy, and then liberty.


If the ruling powers destroy both?

We are saying that fascists have used free speech to gain power.

. . . and that? Is why no one is taking you seriously at all.

Nazi Propaganda and Censorship

Nazi efforts to control forms of communication through censorship and propaganda included control of publications, art, theater, music, movies, and radio.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

Would censorship have stopped the rise of the Nazis? Part 16 of answers to arguments against free speech from Nadine Strossen and Greg Lukianoff

Proponents of hate speech laws assume the enforcement of such laws might have prevented the spread of Nazi ideology in Germany, but the historical record belies this assumption.

www.thefire.org

So, yeah, the reverse is probably true. All of the curbs on free speech might have actually made it easier for the German fascists to find a following and gain power.

See here;

Streisand effect - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Rawley]

You’re confused. We are saying that fascists have used free speech to gain power. That’s true. And triggering to you.

And this makes sense to you? The folks in favor of censorship and speech criminalization (e.g., Germany, the UK) are the antifascists, and the folks supporting free speech are the fascists? WTF?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Today, in America and around the world, 'free speech' is being threatened by the left.

 

[Marener]

Would you apply the same restrictions to communism and socialism?

I haven’t applied any restrictions period.

I’m merely pointing out that it’s not absurd to say that free speech can be used to promote illiberal ideologies.

 

[martybegan]

I haven’t applied any restrictions period.

I’m merely pointing out that it’s not absurd to say that free speech can be used to promote illiberal ideologies.

You idiots don't point out things to just let them be, you then try to regulate them and punish those you disagree with using said regulations.

 

[Marener]

You idiots don't point out things to just let them be, you then try to regulate them and punish those you disagree with using said regulations.

You're a paranoid weirdo.

 

[MisterBeale]

And this makes sense to you?

Of course it does.

Doublethink - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Marener]

And this makes sense to you? The folks in favor of censorship and speech criminalization (e.g., Germany, the UK) are the antifascists, and the folks supporting free speech are the fascists? WTF?

Fascists support free speech until they take power. Then they crack down on it.

 

[d0gbreath]

What happens when radical leftists restrict free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?

Everyone on both sides restricts free speech when they can get away with it.

 

[Rawley]

Fascists support free speech until they take power. Then they crack down on it.

As pointed out by Vance, you mean fascists like the leaders in Germany and England. Which caused your cult to freak the fuck out.